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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,TIA Date: 06 Mar 12 - 12:28 AM We changed the conversation. Until the nutjobs changed it to birth control. But, we'll take it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 05 Mar 12 - 09:08 PM Wait and see how it plays out, Dick... The seed has been planted and is growing nicely... Like any plant, it grows underground during the winter... Don't look for this major Occupy thing with city parks being taken over... Just watch how the 2012 election turns out... That wouldn't happen without OWS... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: dick greenhaus Date: 05 Mar 12 - 08:59 PM Bobert- What victory is that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 04 Mar 12 - 10:09 PM Hey, OWS has won a decisive victory regardless of what the future brings... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Suffet Date: 04 Mar 12 - 05:04 PM Greetings: Kate Slininger and Rebecca Centeno, two graduate students at the Parsons School of Design at the New School, went to Zuccotti Park in New York City this past autumn to document the sights and sounds of the Occupy Wall Street movement. You are welcome to click here for a live recording they made on October 15, 2011, of me singing Woody Guthrie's Hard Traveling. I am accompanying myself on my little Felix the Cat Martin guitar. For better or for worse, after more than 70 years, Woody's song still remains relevant. --- Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: bobad Date: 27 Dec 11 - 01:03 PM 'Occupy Minnesota' helps woman stay in her home Add another foreclosure fight to the list taken on by 'Occupy Wall Street' protesters across America. In a video interview from Al Jazeera, Minnesota resident Monique White explained that the local 'Occupy' group helped her stay in her home since November after home loan bank Freddie Mac threatened to evict her. According to Campus Progress, White's home was sold and repossessed by U.S. Bank to Freddie Mac without her knowledge. White, who was laid off from her job as a youth counselor in early 2010, turned to 'Occupy Minnesota' after she rejected Freddie Mac's 'cash for keys' offer, a small reimbursement for vacating her property. 'I'm not asking for a handout,' White told Al Jazeera. 'I'm not saying give me my house for free. Basically, what I'm asking is to sit down with me, be reasonable, write my loan, and make it affordable for me to keep my house.' 'Occupy Minnesota' provided White with both moral and physical support, including purchasing a small Christmas tree for her family. White still awaits Freddie Mac's next move, after they postponed her eviction and said they would consider allowing her to rent her home. 'Occupy' protesters across the country have made an effort to fight foreclosures in 20 cities through the 'Occupy Our Homes' movement. The action has received public support from Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH). Protesters have already been able to keep an Iraq vet in her home in Atlanta. WATCH: Video from Al Jazeera, which was broadcast on December 27, 2011. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Melissa Date: 13 Dec 11 - 01:36 AM Occupy Our Homes |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Don Firth Date: 09 Dec 11 - 01:12 PM There is more that one troll here, and Bruce is neither of them. And at least one of these trolls is also a stalker. Don Firth P. S. Just a passing comment. I'm too busy being active (as in "activist") in the real world. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Dec 11 - 12:37 PM Though I do not always agree with '999' either, I find that things he says are worth reading, because 'another' point of view, should be taken into consideration. Sometimes people have a perspective that isn't the same as your own...but IN those perspectives may just be a piece, that causes one to think BEYOND their own preconceptions. Often linking the different perspectives widens your own. Regards.....and regards to '999'..though we have differed.....and sometimes not! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: akenaton Date: 09 Dec 11 - 11:31 AM Well said 999. I like you because you are your own man, I remember you speaking up for me when I was under attack, tho' you didn't agree with what I was saying. Thats the sign of a real man.......no time for bullys. Keep well mate! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 09 Dec 11 - 09:43 AM Hey, boys... Ol' hillbilly gonna have to deliver some butt whup on you two??? I can, ya know... You guys are both great friends and don't need to be whuppin' each other, ya' hear??? Now behave!!! B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Jack the Sailor Date: 09 Dec 11 - 08:11 AM Please Bruce, If you want to talk to her about music videos or get into another pissing contest with her, please please please, take it to another thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Jack the Sailor Date: 09 Dec 11 - 08:09 AM GfS is a troll on this thread she has been doing everything that she can to disrupt it and distract from OWS and rest assured she is laughing at you for engaging with her. I started this thread to talk about OWS in a sane and reasonable manner after she made another unreadable. And Bruce, if she has views of her own, she does not share them with us, she simply says whatever will piss off the greatest number of liberals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,999 Date: 09 Dec 11 - 06:23 AM I don't perceive GfS to be a troll. His/her views are far from mine, and I perceive them at times to be the meanderings of a senile old duff with a big mouth and limited ability to state his/her case in an acceptable and understandable manner. That said, it will not be you or any other individual who tells me with whom I may talk. I already seldom speak with him/her because after being bitten twice, I no longer want to. But please be clear on this: I don't listen to your admonitions, either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Jack the Sailor Date: 09 Dec 11 - 05:19 AM You would be ashamed to feed the troll in front of your mother. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,999 Date: 09 Dec 11 - 04:29 AM WTF are you, my mother? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Jack the Sailor Date: 09 Dec 11 - 03:09 AM you are feeding it again |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Dec 11 - 12:50 AM Oh, the link on my post when we got cross-threaded. Scroll back...it's not very far...just a few...enjoy! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,999 Date: 08 Dec 11 - 11:28 PM What music? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Dec 11 - 11:19 PM Oh. Well I hope you enjoyed the music! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,999 Date: 08 Dec 11 - 11:17 PM Obviously, I posted to the wrong thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Dec 11 - 08:35 PM Who is 'person'? But for what it's worth....we are ALL connected....and seeds, if they are living things grow. Don't under-estimate the power of life..and/or LIVING things! and now a word from our sponsor:Enjoy!...(and think about it) GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,999 Date: 08 Dec 11 - 07:33 PM Listen, person: True, it is doubtful that OWS or Republicans/Democrats are being influenced by anything on Mudcat, but WE are, and we collectively influence many more people than do you. Just wanted you to sleep well knowing that the site to which you contribute so little of value is proportionately as ineffective in terms of changing national policy as are you in changing any posts here. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 08 Dec 11 - 07:06 PM Yes, Eb, it was a great speech but it went beyond that in further changing the national conversation that OWS has been doing... Ya' know, the Republicans ***love*** class warfare but they ***hate*** it when the folks they are oppressing fight back... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Dec 11 - 05:27 PM Great speech,......BUT, from the Washington Post, your friends that brought us the FACTS from Watergate......and 'known' as a 'liberal' and reasonably reliable paper.... . Well ,i 'might' have been a 'great speech, except.............. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST, Eb Date: 08 Dec 11 - 11:36 AM No surprise here: I too think that speech was one of his best- and seemingly so did his audience. Great - and hopeful - response from a red state. I hope it was covered well in Kansas papers. JohninKansas? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,TIA Date: 08 Dec 11 - 11:06 AM Actually, the discussion immediately preceding involved no bickering. Well done Melissa et al. Perhaps one might learn a lesson from that, but probably not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Dec 11 - 11:12 PM A 'slight diversion, but I knew I'd find Bobert here..... For Bobert.......and anyone else...but i thought you'd get a kick out of this and For Bobert Now back to our regularly scheduled bickering Wink! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Melissa Date: 07 Dec 11 - 09:18 PM Bobert ..and I would say it's all about something slightly different. And probably everybody who has posted to this thread would have a different answer if we were asked what OWS is About. That's what makes us individuals and I think that's the strength of the thing. Instead of One Size Fits All it's Everybody Fits Everybody we meet in a day is one of us. That's what I would say it's all about. Trite and somewhat remedial..but strong and lovely. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 11 - 08:32 PM Big difference between folks of similar value systems finding middle ground and folks who just want to throw flames... That's what OWS is all about.... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,999 Date: 07 Dec 11 - 08:30 PM Thank you, M. Look, if you and I don't say STOP, who will? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Melissa Date: 07 Dec 11 - 06:34 PM 999 nah, no reason to be offended..hell, you didn't even show a glint of fang while typing that! I DO see sense in getting out and being visible. I guess I just sort of expect the house occupying to get attacked even rougher than the encampments because it'll be easier to puff up some self-righteous indignation about those awful lawbreakers (or whatever they'd call 'em) My friend was made homeless by one of those shysty foreclosures and it would thrill me to know that her house is being Occupied! I'll even buy the Zen of Occupying and I'm all for the idea of Just Occupy SOMETHING..I'm just missing chunks of information and this thread is my best option for finding things out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,999 Date: 07 Dec 11 - 06:22 PM I think, Melissa, that the 'Occupation' of vacant lots, etc, is more than posturing. It looks to me like a resounding call to all people to correct history and right wrongs. The protestors have shown they aren't protestors; rather, they are us. (Walt Kelly would be proud I think.) People have suffered at the hands of multinationals and conglomerates because gigantic corporations perceive themselves to be laws unto themselves, and indeed they have demonstrated that they are. What makes peaceful civil disobedience so powerful is its civility. Virtually, the only violence offered since the Occupation is from the ruling group--like, where else would it come from? That sarcasm was not aimed at you, btw. I think OWS is an idea with millions of plain and otherwise ordinary people doing the directing and driving. Hell, they're even writing the script! I have asked myself the same questions you posed earlier. "What is the sense of this?" My answer was simple: Zen. "So, you admit that because there was the sound of two hands clapping that two hands clapped?" We ain't none of us rich, but so far we ain't none of us ugly, either. This is important. To us, not them wot dislikes us. No offence meant, and I hope none taken. BM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Melissa Date: 07 Dec 11 - 06:15 PM I'll keep an eye open for another article about the houses/lots and will post it here (presuming one turns up again..been seeing them for several days so it might be time to cycle their story to the next half-baked article) The houses/lots thing might be a made-up distraction to keep folks from thinking about the encampments being torn down in the night (sneaky-seeming and creepy!) or something. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Don Firth Date: 07 Dec 11 - 06:07 PM Hmm. Melissa, I haven't heard anything about vacant lots specifically. But it would seem to me that if these are the yards of houses that have been foreclosed on, there may be two reasons for camping in the yard. First, although they would be trespassing, they couldn't be charged with breaking and entering, which is more serious. Second, if the Occupiers are IN the house, people driving or walking by will think it's just a house. But with people camped in the yard, it identified as one of THOSE houses. I'm just speculating here. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Dec 11 - 05:31 PM Actually, it makes more sense to prosecute those responsible for the collapse! and while they're (not) at it: From ABC NEWS: Former New Jersey governor and U.S. Sen. Jon Corzine, whom President Obama once hailed as an "honorable man" and one of his "best partners" in the White House, has been subpoenaed to testify before Congress about his role in the collapse of the investment firm MF Global. Corzine was chairman and CEO of the company between March 2010 and Oct. 31, 2011, when it filed for bankruptcy. An estimated $1.2 billion has not been accounted for, leaving many investor accounts drained. The FBI and Justice Department are also investigating the case. The unanimous, bipartisan vote today to require Corzine to appear before the House Agriculture Committee next week sets the stage for tough questioning of one of the president's top re-election campaign fundraisers and a man who had, until recently, been considered a top pick for Treasury Secretary in a possible second Obama term. Corzine hosted a private fundraiser for Obama at his Manhattan home in April and has given the maximum individual contribution — $35,800 — to Obama and Democrats for 2012, according to Federal Election Commission records. He and his family have donated more than $933,000 to Democratic candidates and groups since 1990, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The former CEO of Goldman Sachs has also bundled more than $500,000 in contributions for Obama 2012 from his deep-pocket friends and associates, many of whom have ties to Wall Street. Corzine's scheduled appearance before the House panel on Dec. 8 comes with potential pitfalls. If he openly answers lawmakers' questions, he risks giving information that criminal and civil investigators could use against him. On the other hand, if he invokes his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, he could appear culpable to some degree. While Corzine has not yet been charged with a crime, his ties to the failed firm have drawn criticism from Republicans and spurred demands on Obama to return Corzine's campaign cash. "In light of the FBI investigation into Jon Corzine's company, President Obama should immediately return the $500,000 that Corzine raised on his behalf," Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus said in a statement last month. An Obama campaign official said they would return funds associated with Corzine if he is charged with any wrongdoing in criminal or civil court. ABC News' Jason Ryan and Susanna Kim contributed to this report. AND THIS: MF Global Holdings Ltd. (MF) took the cult of the Wall Street chief executive officer to a new level with its sale of bonds that pay a higher rate if Chairman and CEO Jon Corzine quits to take a job from the U.S. president. The futures broker sold $325 million of five-year unsecured notes, the company said today in a statement. The notes will pay an extra percentage point of interest if Corzine is named to a federal post and confirmed by the Senate before July 2013, New York-based MF Global said yesterday in a regulatory filing. "That seems crazy," said William Larkin, a fixed-income portfolio manager who oversees $500 million at Cabot Money Management Inc. in Salem, Massachusetts, and has 22 years of experience. "I've never heard of something like this." Corzine, the 64-year-old former governor of New Jersey, helped run Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) from 1994 to 1999 and served in the Senate from 2001 to 2006. Since joining MF Global last year, he's taken more risk with the firm's money in a bid to remake the broker into a mid-size investment bank and has sought to alter its capital structure to reduce borrowing costs. The shares rose 9.5 percent in the past year under his watch, while the Standard & Poor's 500 Financials Index fell 4.9 percent. A Democrat, Corzine is among the biggest fundraisers for President Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign. He has been the subject of speculation about administration jobs such as Treasury secretary or White House economic adviser, said Christopher Allen, an analyst at Evercore Partners Inc. in New York. Retention Bonus Jay Carney, the White House press secretary, said he had "no knowledge" that Corzine was being considered for an administration post. He declined to comment on the bond sale. AND THIS!: October 3, 2011 5:59 PM ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010 WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress. On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks." Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious. AND THIS: ...Wait, I got more, but BOBERT claims 'reading fatigue' So, SPIN THOSE!!! GfS P.S. Maybe time for me to yawn....while waiting! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 11 - 05:12 PM Yes, OWSers occupying foreclosed houses makes a loud statement about Wall Street... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Melissa Date: 07 Dec 11 - 05:08 PM Thanks, Don I guess it does make sense to move into the foreclosed/empty houses. All I could find to read made it seem like they were moving onto yards of folks who are being evicted. When they get moved out of those houses, they'll be able to be held for trespassing instead of being taken/held for nothing? What's with the empty lots? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 11 - 05:06 PM Yup, like I have been pointing out all along, this person is a right winged Republican, i.e. a Tea Partier... Too bad to carry around such hate... Hate will eat you up and hate is the cornerstone of TeaNation/RedneckNation... That why all this hate for Obama... TeaNation's daddies and grand daddies were Klansmen... The thing about OWS is that the hatred is for bad policies and not people... 180 degrees from TeaNation... Yup, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck... I have more respect for people who just come out and admit they are racists rather than pretend they are all classless and free and enlightened when they plainly are none of those... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Dec 11 - 05:05 PM Tia, that was just plain stupid! Here, spin this! The bill that ultimately "repealed" the Act was brought up in the Senate by Phil Gramm (R-Texas) and in the House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa) in 1999. The bills were passed by a Republican majority, basically following party lines by a 54–44 vote in the Senate[15] and by a bi-partisan 343–86 vote in the House of Representatives.[16] After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90–8 (one not voting) and in the House: 362–57 (15 not voting). The legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,TIA Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:56 PM Now that was pure Tea Party. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:54 PM Get some rest, then...its obvious that your lack of sleep has affected your thinking! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:45 PM (((((((((((((((((((((((BIG yawn)))))))))))))))))))) B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:36 PM Bobert, it's this one: BS: Obama 2 sign bill 2 Disappear Americans? Oh, I just saw this.....Don: "Helluva good speech, actually." Now he is blaming the internet and ATM's????????????????????????????? Get serious! He Said America has ALWAYS been screwed up???????????????????????? Then go where ever you think its NOT! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:32 PM Not hatred, ol' buddy....this guy is a consummate piece of shit...and YOU do yourself a disservice to try to prop him up anymore. Didn't you hear the moronic bullshit he was peddling, yesterday???..and you couldn't detect something REAL stupid going on???? Come on, if you like being the spokesman for the Democratic party, and being taken as serious, that may I make a real practical, simple suggestion to you?....distance yourself from him, and his BULLSHIT. This guy is aiming to collapse the nation. There!..Make you happy, now? (I'd spend some soul searching time, if I were you, and save ANY credibility you think you may have left!) Hope you liked the music link from the other thread. (Joe Bonamassa and Eric Clapton...then I posted the whole concert)..Shit!..I can't remember which thread....oh yeah its...umm......the one about arresting Americans...Enjoy, ol' fart! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Don Firth Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:28 PM Helluva good speech, actually. I've been waiting for him the say something like that. Most encouraging! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Jeri Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:25 PM The text of the speech is here, so people can read it for themselves. I thought it was one of his best. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Don Firth Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:25 PM There are millions of houses in the United States (I've hear 3.2 million) that are standing empty. At the same time, there are millions of homeless people (I can't find an accurate figure, but they, too, number in the millions), living on the streets. These houses are standing empty because the bank foreclosed and evicted those living there (some of whom are now homeless), and are standing empty. Because of the current housing market, no one is buying them. They stand vacant. And in addition to being wasted space, there is no one, not even the banks, maintaining these houses, so many of them are getting pretty run down and overgrown. Empty house over here, someone living on the street because they have nowhere else to live, over there. The Occupy folks moving into these houses—and Occupying them—are making a loud and clear statement. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Jack the Sailor Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:21 PM occupy-geoff-nunbergs-2011-word-of-the-year |
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Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99% From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 11 - 04:19 PM Try to convince you??? Your hatred of Obama is well documented here... Nothing new... Yawn... B~ |
