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BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?

Richard Bridge 15 Jan 12 - 04:26 AM
VirginiaTam 15 Jan 12 - 04:57 AM
banjoman 15 Jan 12 - 10:44 AM
GUEST,Eliza 15 Jan 12 - 11:04 AM
Richard Bridge 15 Jan 12 - 02:32 PM
GUEST,Eliza 15 Jan 12 - 02:42 PM
Leadfingers 15 Jan 12 - 06:39 PM
Richard Bridge 16 Jan 12 - 12:53 AM
GUEST,Shimrod 16 Jan 12 - 04:30 AM
VirginiaTam 16 Jan 12 - 05:39 AM
Jim Carroll 16 Jan 12 - 05:57 AM

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Subject: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 04:26 AM

Well, the US has the National Defense Authorisation Act (a very good reason, it seems to me, why no-one should ever face extradition to the USA since the right to a fair trial is not respected), the Irish courts are considering a challenge at the highest level to the European arrest warrant (exposing for example Irish citizens to French courts where the presumption of innocence is NOT the same) and now Ken Clarke wants UK governments to be able to hide evidence of UK security wrongdoing as in cases of Binyam Mohamed and other illegal rendition and complicity in torture.

Quis custodiet...?


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/15/henry-porter-ken-clarke-bill-of-rights


The sickest part is calling this excuse for Gestapo-like conduct is calling it a "bill of rights".


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 04:57 AM

whose rights?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: banjoman
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 10:44 AM

Its a bill that will be paid for by the fall of democracy and any semblance of protection from those who seek to rule us all by subterfuge and mis information.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 11:04 AM

Will it get past the House of Lords?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 02:32 PM

So long as the government is not stupid enough to introduce it in the House of Lords, the Parliament Acts will ensure its passage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 02:42 PM

It's a carte-blanche and a smoke screen for corruption.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 06:39 PM

The current Extradition set up is TOTALLY weighted in favour of USA =
Something else that Princess Tony lumbered us with isnt it ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 12:53 AM

Terry, I agree that the US/UK extradition treaty is a disgrace and we should scrap it at once. What will the US do, send a gunboat?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 04:30 AM

I suspect that the whole economy of the Western world is now on the brink of an unimaginable catastrophe. It's all far worse than we have been told so far and is irreversible. Big Business and their willing politician 'hand maidens' (we elect them, they put all their efforts into supporting BB and the mega-rich) have f***ed up royally. When the inevitable happens there is a whole shit-storm of social unrest heading their way and they're putting draconian laws in place to protect themselves.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 05:39 AM

What will the US do, send a gunboat? What Shimrod said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ken Clarke to destroy UK rule of law?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 05:57 AM

What Shimrod and Virginia said
Jim Carroll


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