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Dick Miles, Just as the tide

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Subject: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 06:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-SPThFpviU


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 06:50 PM

I've always loved this song.

I used to have the red album with Peggy Seeger singing it.

exquisite!

well done


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 09:36 PM

Nice!


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 06:09 AM

Thanks, THE PEGgY SEEGER VERSION WITH TOM PALEY is on you tubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5hBigh5MkQ


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 06:11 AM

I would say the guitar is in drop d, peggy sounds very young


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Tootler
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 06:54 AM

Very good Dick.

Also Shirley & Dolly Collins.

a href="http://youtu.be/ccPIO_DWwGM">http://youtu.be/ccPIO_DWwGM

Just a fragment as they say, but beautifully sung.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 07:38 AM

Loved it! Have often watched the Witchmen (Border Morris) dancing to this tune, but didn't know the words.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Continuity Jones
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 08:00 AM

Really good, Dick.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 08:13 AM

I always wondered what was meant by her colours changing.
A couple of quibbles, not intended as criticism of this lovely rendition.
The sailor was not spied. The narrator is the sailor.
Maid of honour flows smoother than Lady of Honour.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 08:24 AM

Harry Cox sang Just As the Tide Was A-Flowing in a BBC recording supervised by E.J. Moeran in The Windmill, Sutton, Norfolk, on December 18, 1945. This was published on BBC 17231 and on the Topic anthology We've Received Orders to Sail (The Voice of the People Series Vol. 12).

Stephen Baldwin played Just As the Tide Was Flowing as a Morris Dance tune with the Travelling Morrice in the primary school at Bishop Upton, Herefordshire, June 22, 1954. This was published in 1976 on his Leader album English Village Fiddler and in 1998 on the Topic anthology As Me and My Love Sat Courting (The Voice of the People Series Vol. 15).

Shirley Collins learned a fragment of this song from her aunt Grace Wingorn and recorded it four times, each with very similar words: The first time in 1959 for her second LP, False True Lovers, and the second time in 1967 for her album The Power of the True Love Knot. The latter version was also included in her compilation The Classic Collection. The third and best known version is with the Albion Country Band on their album No Roses, on her anthology A Favourite Garland, and on the two compilations Rave On and The Greater Antilles Sampler. A live recording from Shirley and Dolly Collins made in London in 1979 was published on both Harking Back and Within Sound. Additionally, the first, third and the live recording were included in Shirley Collins 4CD anthology Within Sound.

Shirley Collins commented in the No Roses sleeve notes:

   
This is a fragment from my Aunt Grace [Grace Winhorn, Hastings] that she sang to my sister and me when we were children. To my amazement and amusement it was covered by the American group 10,000 Maniacs. I like their version—it's very much like mine, so I've got to!


Peter Bellamy recorded Just As the Tide Was A-Flowing for his 1968 album Mainly Norfolk. He commented in his sleeve notes:

   
From Harry Cox also comes this version of Just As the Tide Was A-Flowing. This is (to me) the most complete text and most beautiful melody of the several versions in existence.


Tony Rose sang Just As the Tide Was Flowing on his 1971 LP Under the Greenwood Tree (with Dolly Collins playing her flute-organ on this album too though not on this track). His version has one more verse than the other versions listed below. Tony Rose commented in his sleeve notes:

   
Just As the Tide Was Flowing seems to have been a tremendously popular song with traditional singers in the South of England. Its appeal lies in the fine tune and a somewhat unusual story line. Among the scores of returning sailors celebrated in song, this must surely have been one of the most fortunate in meeting such a generous young lady.


Robin and Barry Dransfield recorded Just As the Tide Was Flowing in 1971 for their Trailer album Lord of All I Behold.

Tim Laycock sang Just As the Tide Was A-Flowing in 1976 on the fundraiser album The Second Folk Review Record.

Tony Hall, accompanied by Nic Jones on fiddle, sang Just As the Tide Was Flowing in 1977 on his Free Reed album Fieldvole Music. This track was also included on the Free Reed anthology This Label Is Not Removable.

Like Peter Bellamy, Eliza Carthy learned Just As the Tide Was Flowing from the singing of Harry Cox. She recorded it in 2002 for her CD Anglicana. She sang and played her octave violin and was accompanied by Ben Ivitsky on viola and Tim van Eyken playing melodeon and guitar.

Jon Boden, who used to play this song with Eliza and the Ratcatchers, sang it as the June 1, 2011 entry of his project A Folk Song a Day.


All this information comes from that indispensible source of information on British songs and performers provided by Reinhard Zierke from Germany - see http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 08:52 AM

Correct keith a.
stray not spy, a momentary slip, on my myspace version dick miles my space, i sing the correct words, as I do on my commercially recorded version on Boxing Clever, available from my website.
Vic, what exactly is your point?


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,oldddude
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 09:01 AM

Dick
It is wonderful, just wonderful
Dan


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 09:29 AM

Vic, what exactly is your point?

Eh? Just giving some information on the song that is the subject of the thread..... Was I wrong in doing this?


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 09:38 AM

no not at all just didnt understand what you were trying to do,
I suspect the version I sing is scottish as it mentions the word ganged, My apologies for singing a wrong word, heres another version with duet and english concertina and the right wordhttp://www.myspace.com/dickmiles


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 06:49 AM

keith A, colours changing, is a little like what happened to the nutting girl when the world went round and round.
a bit like JESUS is coming but he is waiting for a 53 bus.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 09 Feb 12 - 10:20 AM

Ten out of Ten for Vic Smith, that's just the sort of post that I love to see on Mudcat. Enjoyed meeting you at Seaford the other night, a very pleasant and delightful evening.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 03:26 PM

to tell us all the people who recorded just as the tide, without giving audio samples is pointless, I included the other good version[ paley and seeger]
Shirley's version, well performed, but a fragment,Raises a point which I think is worth discussing, would she have been better off adding verses from another version and adapting them to her tune, rather than singing two verses, because that was the way her relative always sang it.
Which reminds me of Gamekeepers lie Sleeping,MOST OF THE TIME a meaningless fragment as recorded by most traditional singers, the exception being Bob Roberts, who IMO, wrote some of his version, does it matter,no, because he has improved the song, and because traditional songs are there to be altered, that is part of their nature.
if we are going to talk about the song JUST AS THE TIDE let us discuss its substance, or its possible date of origin, but pleases spare us the train spotter stuff of which revival or traditional singers sang it, unless audios can be supplied at the same time, if there is a version of Harry Cox singing it , can we please hear it, otherwise IMO its meaningless.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Continuity Jones
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 05:21 PM

I thought Vic's post was very interesting. I am more than capable of hunting down the various versions if needs be.

Dick I thought your post

"to tell us all the people who recorded just as the tide, without giving audio samples is pointless, "

Was pointless. Unless the point was to bewilder people with such a curmudgeonly comical attitude.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 05:46 PM

ok, fair enough , we are all entitled to different opinions.
I still do not see the point of mentioning other versions unless you then provide an audio, if something is not available why mention it?
to me its reminiscent of advertising a menu, and then saying its off, it reminds me of a peter sellers sketch


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Continuity Jones
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 05:53 PM

Can you provide the audio to that Peter Sellers sketch, Dick?


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 06:16 PM

BROADSIDES:
Bodleian, Harding B 11(3634), "Just As the Tide Was Flowing," J. Catnach (London), 1813-1838; also Harding B 11(1951), Harding B 11(1952), "Just As the Tide Was Flowing"; Johnson Ballads 1837, "Tide is Flowing"; Firth c.12(274), "Just As the Tide is Flowing.
so the song appears to date from around the early nineteenth century., now that is the sort of information I find useful.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 06:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RTWk9QIKS0 tHere it is continuity, Balham gateway to the south, check mate


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 06:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RTWk9QIKS0
balham gateway to the south , checkmate


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,Blowzabella sans cookie
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 06:50 PM

I love your version, Dick - it's been too long since I've heard it live though :(


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Paul Burke
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 07:53 PM

a bit like JESUS is coming but he is waiting for a 53 bus.

Dick: I didn't like you till you wrote that.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: treewind
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 06:14 AM

Thanks for the Peter Sellers link, that brought back memories...


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 06:36 AM

unless audios can be supplied at the same time, if there is a version of Harry Cox singing it , can we please hear it, otherwise IMO its meaningless.


Audio Links -
* Harry Cox - Just As The Tide Was Flowing

* Stephen Baldwin - Just As The Tide Was Flowing - not available on the internet - hear it as track 58 of Stephen Baldwin: "Here's One You'll Like, I Think" - Musical Traditions (MTCD334) or track 15 of "As Me and My Love Sat Courting" (The Voice of the People Series Vol. 15) Topic TSCD 665.

* Shirley Collins - Just As The Tide Was Flowing

* Peter Bellamy - Just As The Tide Was Flowing

* Tony Rose - Just As The Tide Was Flowing

* Eliza Carthy - Just As The Tide Was Flowing

* Robin & Barry Dransfield - Just As The Tide Was Flowing

* Tim Laycock's version - not available on line - but here it on "The Second Folk Review Record" - Various Artists - Folksound FS 107 (LP, UK, 1976) Side 1 Track 5

* Tony Hall - Google says there is an .mp3 at http://ca.music.yahoo.com/tony-hall/tracks/just-as-the-tide-was-flowing--197423233 but I got the "Page Not Available" after several tries.

* Eliza Carthy - Just As The Tide Was Flowing


Total Google research time - 7 minutes. There, not difficult was it?


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 06:41 AM

the exception being Bob Roberts, who IMO, wrote some of his version, does it matter,no, because he has improved the song, and because traditional songs are there to be altered, that is part of their nature.

Could you please supply an audio track of this because unless audios can be supplied at the same time, IMO its meaningless.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 07:23 AM

thanks Vic,I will enjoy the audios, here is the Bob Roberts version of gamekeepers, sung by me, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnHxwZb_Hig


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 07:25 AM

BOB ROBEhttp://www.amazon.com/While-Gamekeepers-Lie-Sleeping/dp/B003PW0D1QRTS


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 07:28 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnHxwZb_Hig


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 07:43 AM

The link to http://www.amazon.com/While-Gamekeepers-Lie-Sleeping/dp/B003PW0D1QRTS brings the message        

Looking for something?
We're sorry. The Web address you entered is not a functioning page on our site

Go to Amazon.com's Home Page


You can help a short clip of Bob Roberts' version by clicking here but you have to pay £1.49 to download the whole track.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 07:54 AM

There appears to be a full version of Bob Roberts sings While Gamekeepers Lie Sleeping on Spotify but I won't provide the link as I'm pretty sure that whoever has put it up there is not entitled to do so.
Instead, I will point you to track 1 of Volume 18 of The Topic "Voice of The People" series - Songs of hunting and poaching - TO CATCH A FINE BUCK WAS MY DELIGHT: SONGS OF HUNTING & POACHING TSCD668


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 08:54 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnHxwZb_Hig
I provided the link,Vic, its not my fault if they charge, I GIVE MY YOU TUBE TUTORIALS AND VIDEOS AWAY FOR FREE,others are more money orientated.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 09:26 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnHxwZb_Hig
I provided the link,Vic, its not my fault if they charge.


I'd imagine that your Youtube link works fine - not that I've checked it. No, if you look above, you'll see that it was the Amazon/Bob Roberts link that I was pointing out as showing an "error" statement and the Mobile Chilli/Bob Roberts link that you had to pay for to download in full.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 10:13 AM

my point, Vic, is that I put my videos and tutorialvideos up for free, so that the music can get passed on and people can learn.
you have not bothered to check my video, yet I am a professional singer and you are a folk club organiser.I am nearly speechless.
If you are not interested in the videos why do you take part in the discussion, or is it that you are not interested in my video? that sounds like a pre judgement on your part, Vic, if that is the case.   
There may be people at your club that might like my singing, and may wish to see me perform and you have not checked out the link.
When I played The Drum at Stanford[not far from you],I had a good night and was rebooked to play there this coming July.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: johncharles
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 10:22 AM

dick versus vic someone has the wrong end of the stick.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 11:13 AM

That's slick!


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 11:14 AM

And quick.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 11:33 AM

what is spotify? Is it like Youtube?


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 11:40 AM

Big Al, the person I think could answer that is Jim Dixon. Send him a message. He's a nice guy.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 12:06 PM

my point, Vic, is that I put my videos and tutorialvideos up for free, so that the music can get passed on and people can learn.
you have not bothered to check my video, yet I am a professional singer and you are a folk club organiser.I am nearly speechless


I have no wish to be unkind to you, Dick, but you have emailed me requesting a gig at club or festival within the last year. I replied carefully and politely outlining the reasons why we could not do so. If you can't remember them, then let me know and I will send them again - but by private message as this would not be a matter for a public forum.

I might also remind you that within the past year you have called me an "arse-licker" on this forum. Now, this was not mentioned when I took your name and request for a booking to both the festival committee and the club committee - but I remember thinking at the time that it was an odd way of trying to endear yourself to someone that you might want to book you.

Can I wish you the best with your career even though it looks unlikely that we will book you?


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: johncharles
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 12:19 PM

Vic. A professional and polite response under considerable provocation. I wish had your degree of self~restraint.
john


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 12:20 PM

that sounds like a pre judgement on your part, Vic, if that is the case.

Not a pre-judgement, I would have thought, as I am well aware of your work. Indeed, I have booked you in the past, though in fact I had to remind you of this fact when you stated that I had never booked you.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 03:24 PM

Vic,you are being economical with the truth.
Firstly I was not trying to endear myself with you when I called you an arse licker.
Secondly, I apologised for that comment not just once but several times on this forum., if you do not wish to accept those apologies, what am I supposed to do?

It is clear that you have not accepted my apologies.
"that sounds like a pre judgement on your part, Vic, if that is the case.

Not a pre-judgement, I would have thought, as I am well aware of your work. Indeed, I have booked you in the past, though in fact I had to remind you of this fact when you stated that I had never booked you."
ok, Vic in a period of 35 years you booked me once at the Laughing fish at Isfield.
I have not noticed you in the audience of any of my gigs, including ones local to you, including Tenterden Festival, how can you be possibly be aware of what I am doing now if you do not listen to my audios, and do not see me live, it is blatantly obvious you have not accepted my apologies.
I still consider it a prejudgement not to listen to a video or audio of any artist[whoever they are] if you are an organiser.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 04:05 PM

I have not noticed you in the audience of any of my gigs, including ones local to you, including Tenterden Festival

Really? You actually came up and spoke to me after a Tenterden concert. I couldn't say much more than "Hello" to you at the time as I was deep in conversation with Paul & Liz Davenport. We were also booked at that festival and had a very heavy schedule, so we could not pick and choose where we would be over the weekend.

You berated me on this forum for not attending your booking at The Lewes Saturday club and I had to explain to you that I actually had a gig myself that evening with the Sussex Pistols - though why you should think that I had an obligation to attend to see you, I fail to understand.

I still consider it a prejudgement not to listen to a video or audio of any artist[whoever they are] if you are an organiser.

I am trying to take this comment seriously when I ask you if you really expect me to listen to every performance by any artist [whoever they are] just because I happen to find a link to them on Mudcat, Youtube, Facebook etc. just because I am an organiser. Believe me, life is too short even if I wanted to.

in a period of 35 years you booked me once

I explained carefully to you after your most recent request for a booking, the methods of our two committees and why we would not be booking you. What else do you expect me to do? However much you consider yourself worthy of a booking, you have to accept what I have explained to you.
Dick, other people are reading this. I don't feel that you doing yourself any favours in the way you are dealing with this.

Incidently, how many other organisers are still at it after more than 35 years (actually it is nearer 45) of running a weekly folk club. Comments like those of yours to me on this thread aren't exactly encouraging.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 04:07 PM

you clearly have not accepted my apologies.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 04:14 PM

Perhaps if you were a tad more thoughtful in your posts, you would not feel the need to seek apologies. I cannot think that I would refer to anyone in such terms on a public forum whatever I thought of them.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 04:15 PM

"n a period of 35 years you booked me once

I explained carefully to you after your most recent request for a booking, the methods of our two committees and why we would not be booking you. What else do you expect me to do? However much you consider yourself worthy of a booking, you have to accept what I have explained to you.
Dick, other people are reading this. I don't feel that you doing yourself any favours in the way you are dealing with th"
Vic, I was stating a fact you have booked me once in 35 years, I mentioned this not because I think I am worthy of a booking, but because you claim to be aware of my work, how can you be? you have booked me once in 35 years, you never attend my gigs, you dont bother to listen to my audios or videos, youwere unable to attend my spots at a local festival, or local club ,furthermore I live in Ireland, how can you judge what i am doing in 2011, based on one gig in the early 1990s, or was it 80s.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 04:36 PM

Gentlemen, none of this is my business. I have read first sentences to the last eight or nine posts, enough to know I don't want to hear about it. Any chance you could revert to PMs?

I'm off this thread for good, but I hope you two can find some common ground before it gets uglier than it is. Bye.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 04:51 PM

Apologies - yes it should have gone to PMs.

This is my last post in this thread.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Paul Burke
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 05:04 PM

Now calm down folks. Dick's playing and singing are excellent, but he's perhaps just a little further along the Asperger's spectrum than I am. Take him for what he is, and ignore the odd responses.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 05:18 PM

here is an unusual one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1M6ZfpNo2s


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: gnu
Date: 12 Feb 12 - 02:25 PM

Gee whiz.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Feb 12 - 06:40 PM

here is another version, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhDU_UBJTk&feature=related


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Feb 12 - 04:44 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z28SQXXv72s how not to do it


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Feb 12 - 02:14 PM

here is another version that is inappropriate, the song dates from 1813 or thereabouts, madrigal is a european music dating from the sixteenth and seventeenth century.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQvi7L8jUYU


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 16 Feb 12 - 03:51 PM

Oh for Gosh sakes. Dick's music is very enjoyable. Ain't none of us John Denver here .. no wonder so many fine musicians won't post their work or a song they love on mudcat. Someone is always slinging shit ...

I am leaving this thread for good but keep playing Dick, I for one enjoy your work


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Feb 12 - 04:56 PM

thanks Old Dude.


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 16 Feb 12 - 11:04 PM

I will take a real person singing and playing a real song in a manner that is folk style any day over the one size fits all shit on the radio everyday. Same song, meaningless lyrics, all look the same sound the same wear their 800 dollar cowboy boots and play cookie cutter music from the same 50 studio writers that daily crank the stuff out. Somehow people think this is real music .. not ... same exact song but a different head singing it. I will take a real person playing from their heart any day and enjoy it like nothing I hear in today's modern music


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Subject: RE: Dick Miles, Just as the tide
From: Acme
Date: 16 Feb 12 - 11:17 PM

I enjoyed that first link, as long as I wasn't looking at it. Poor lighting and I couldn't see the concertina made it iffy to watch. But the song and voice are lovely. I also am enough of a folk nerd to enjoy the information following the song. I grew up with that at home with my Dad. :)

SRS


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