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number 6 22 Mar 12 - 09:22 PM
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Subject: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: number 6
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 09:22 PM

Hey kids what's this one all about .... did and/or was anyone aware about this .... after the NDA Act this one seems to put an ominous cloud over what could be coming up the pipeline. .... whew

POLICE STATE USA

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Beer
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 09:32 PM

I'm not going to read all that but I will surmise that election year is coming up and Obama has to lean a bit Right wing to get some needed votes. So though he must get. Scary as hell as well.
ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Beer
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 09:46 PM

So "tough" he must get.
Sorry fot the mistake.
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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 09:56 PM

nothing makes sense anymore in politics


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 10:50 PM

Everything is just fine in the USA. I'm sure you'll be told that in ensuing posts. (Snort/chuckle/etc)


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 10:59 PM

Right....

"Why worry? It can't happen here."


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 11:01 PM

The NDAA has already been discussed here.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: number 6
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 11:02 PM

999 and L.H. ..... yeah, you are right. I guess I'm overacting ... it all means nothing. Everything is alright .... guess I'll go back to watching American Idol reruns.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: number 6
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 11:07 PM

I know the NDAA has alreading been discussed here Rap .... this thread is specific to the latest one that has been added to the coffers ... the National Defense Resources Preparedness Act.


anyway .... forget about it all ... have some Pringle Chips and dip, and a beer of course ... we are well looked after ... our apathy is of the government's best interest.

biLL ... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 01:56 AM

Does THIS have anything to do with it????....Like 'Hope and Change'?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 02:45 AM

Well, I had lots of conspiracy theories about the Bush Administration. Can't say I worry much about Obama.
A couple of weeks ago, 999 posted a list of scary-sounding executive orders that has been circulating around the Internet. Turns out they were orders signed by John F. Kennedy in 1962. This order signed by Obama is just about the same - a routine order giving the Executive Branch certain broad powers in cases of emergency. I'd worry if such powers were given to corporations, but it seems reasonable for the Executive Branch to need emergency powers at times.
Doesn't worry me a bit.
Huffington Post shows some concern, but not the "sky is falling" message of the first post.

-Joe, retired Fed-


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 08:16 AM

Isn't this the one that updates a Truman-era EO, basically to put the Dept. of Homeland Security on and take some others off?


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 09:31 AM

The timing of this NDRP act and the NDAA act are not all coincidental. It is about preparation for something.

The link I posted (which is a Canadian blogsite btw) and the Huffington Post link of Joe's raise the question of The oncoming attack on Iran. Personally I think it all has to do with some sort of natural disaster of large proportion. Let's face it the weather, earthquakes have been rather extreme around the globe lately. Let's say a very long heatwave in excess of 130 degrees hits a city like Phoenix for a period of a month or mre, this is a situation that could happen. The power grid would be blown out. Water would be in short supply. The food distribution system would be in jeopardy. Law and order starts to fall apart. Maybe this is what these acts that are all about. But the again ......

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 09:55 AM

I don't eat Pringles and I rarely watch television. Please don't pile your faults onto me.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 09:59 AM

Hmmm .... so you do eat dip (with a spoon?) and drink beer.

biLL ... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 10:26 AM

Git out yer tin foil hats and watch out fer them black helocopters.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 10:30 AM

Where can one procure a tin foil hat?

biLL   ... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 11:05 AM

I also tend to lean toward the possibility that there may be preparations underway to deal with some sort of very large and destructive natural event that the government sees coming, but is not talking about.

The event could be a pole shift. I'm not talking about a magnetic pole shift. I'm talking about a physical pole shift. And not a gradual one...

I don't have any kind of absolute faith about that. I'm just saying that it's one possibility.

If so, it's something that is utterly beyond the capability of the human race to do anything about, and that includes our governments. But they would certainly have some knowledge of its imminence through evidence being gathered by the science community. It would not be in their interests to inform the public about it, as it would cause a general panic, and that would cause massive disruption to commerce, transportation, communications, and everything else...thus becoming a huge disaster in itself...prior to the natural disaster.

The government, however, would want to make its own preparations and have authoritative mechanisms in place to deal with the event when it came....as best they could...with an eye toward salvaging themselves and as much of our civilization as possible after it was over.

A natural disaster on such a scale would be a far more serious problem than any war with Iran or anyone else...short of total nuclear war involving the arsenals of Russia, the USA, and the other nuclear powers. It would be a worldwide disaster that no government has any power to stop from happening.

So the pole shift I mentioned is one possible thing that could be leading to government preparations for emergency powers.

Another possibility is an impending collision with some kind of large interstellar object...

Again, there would probably be nothing the government could do to stop it, and there'd be no point in them telling the public about it ahead of time and causing general panic...but they would want to prepare for dealing with the aftermath, and that would require emergency powers.

****

The above are simply a couple of possibilities regarding natural events. I don't hold any particular faith about them, just raising possibilities.

At any rate, I think it's a bit more likely that the emergency powers are being set up in regards to an impending natural disaster than in regards to an impending war...or a financial collapse...but it could be either one of those too, I suppose. Or it could be something else.

As for the smart crackers here making the usual scornful remarks from their comfy fireside chairs about "tinfoil hats", "little green men", and other such snide cliches, I will remind you that my grandfather was repeatedly warned by my grandmother in 1938 that the Germans were going to soon occupy Czechoslovakia, there was going to be a major war shortly after that, and they had to get out of central Europe before it happened and get to somewhere safe, like North America. He laughed at her worries scornfully and said, "That's ridiculous. Nothing is going to happen here." He had a lucrative business in Prague, about 50 employees, and he wasn't about to relocate to anywhere else. He refused to even consider the possibility that the status quo might come crashing down. He scoffed at any suggestion of danger.

He was wrong. It did happen just as she had warned, and when it did they lost everything except some of my grandmother's personal jewelry which she wore on the plane ride out of Prague the day after the Germans crossed the border. They got out a few hours before the airport was closed by the new German administration, leaving behind his business, their home, all their possessions, their country, their friends, and their bank accounts. They did not wear tinfoil hats. They flew first to England, then by ship to North America, and ended up eventually in Canada.

If a worldwide event of some kind is on the way, though, we will not have a safe North American haven to run away to this time. We'll have to make out the best we can right where we are.

As Jackson Browne once said, "Don't think it won't happen just because it hasn't happened yet."

They didn't think the Titanic could sink either. It hadn't happened yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 11:41 AM

"The event could be a pole shift. I'm not talking about a magnetic pole shift. I'm talking about a physical pole shift. And not a gradual one..."

That sounds insane to me. A physical pole shift - Antarctica on top, the Arctic below- would wipe out just about everything, and I doubt that there's any evidence the planet has ever done anything of the kind.

The magnetic pole,l they say, has recently shifted from the North Pole to a few hundred miles (I believe) away. Which, if it continues, is disturbing enough, entailing disruptions and consequences of many kinds but that is far, far different from a physical shift.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 12:07 PM

"The event could be a pole shift. I'm not talking about a magnetic pole shift...."

I don't think that the corrupted guys at the top really care about a 'pole shift'..or even a 'poll shift'.

I think they think that 'everything can be replaced'....as long as they stay out of sight, and in control.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 12:28 PM

Yeah, Ebbie...anything that really sounds unusual to the human mind sounds insane...simply because it's really unusual. It once sounded insane to propose that man could fly across the sky in machines, for example. It's ordinary now. It once sounded insane that I could project my voice and my image across the Atlantic Ocean to someone in England. It's ordinary now. It once sounded insane to suggest that the Earth is a sphere (not flat) and that the Earth rotates around the Sun. We take those things for granted now. We'd have laughed at such notions if we'd been born in another age.

If you bother to do some investigative reading about the pole shift, you will find many serious sources, writings by people with a genuine scientific education and a scientific bent, which suggest that such pole shifts have occurred repeatedly in the past (at intervals of over 20,000 years duration), causing planetary cataclysms and widespread devastation and extinction of many species. The shift appears most likely to be of the outer crust of the Earth, not of the entire body of the planet. The outer crust of the Earth floats on an inner mantle of molten magma. It seems that the crust may periodically shift to a radically new position around the inner core of the planet. This appears to occur on a regular cyclical basis of great duration (over 20,000 years), a cycle which is connected to galactic cycles that involve the solar system's own cyclical movements through the Milky Way galaxy. The crust is a very thin skin in terms of the thickness of the planet...it's somewhat comparable to the outer skin on a tangerine, for example, but thinner than that, and it floats on liquid magma. Nevertheless, it is thick enough to provide us with a normally stable and livable habitat in a tolerable range of temperatures and insulate us from the molten core of the Earth, while our surrounding atmosphere protects us from the deep cold of outer space.

You say that the idea of such a pole shift sounds insane? ;-) Well, yeah...'cause we haven't seen it happen before. We don't take it for granted, therefore it sounds nuts. No one ever thinks anything really unusual is going to happen, do they? They think that things will just go on being the way they always have been...and they usually do...but sometimes they don't.

Believe me, I'd love to think that things will always go on the way we've been used to them going on. I wish our future was nice and secure. That would be lovely. Let's hope it works out that way, okay? ;-)

Whether it does or not, we're all going to die anyway. So there's really no need to panic, given that inevitability...even IF a physical pole shift is coming. I'm thankful for each day of life I have, and I try to enjoy it as best I can.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: gnu
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 01:22 PM

I wish I had some Pringles. May as well pig out, I guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 01:46 PM

hatonspeaksthetruth and says:

We will lift you off at the first warning of your planet's beginning to tilt on its axis. When this occurs, we have only a very short time segment in which we can lift you from the surface before great tidal waves will lash your coastlines. These waves can be as deep as five miles or more. They will subsequently cover much of your land masses. Your melting polar ice caps are contributing greatly to the unequal balance of the orb itself.
Along with these changes there will be great earthquakes which will feed from one suture line (fault line) to the next to cause severe shifting of entire tectonic plates. As these splits and grindings occur you will have massive volcanic eruptions over widespread areas of previously dormant cones. In portions near your nuclear testing grounds you will experience probable spillage of radioactive material into your atmosphere. You will also experience radiation leakage from your nuclear power plants as they are disrupted by land changes. Portions of your continents will split and sink and in other areas this will cause thrusting upward of other masses.

You have had plenty of news about winds, etc. that will accompany these upheavals. There will be upheavals and earthquakes for instance, that will not trigger evacuation, so I will speak of cataclysmic proportions.

We are very experienced in the evacuation of populations of planets! It would be grand if this were not necessary to be true, but alas, it is not even all that uncommon for many various reasons. We will stick to yours and what you might expect.

We expect, and are practiced and prepared to complete the evacuation of Earth of the souls of Light in some fifteen minutes, regardless of numbers. Further, we will rescue the souls of Light first. (Not a bad idea to get on that Light List.) Our computers are massive and self updating. Each entity is entered into the system and all changes, to the minute details, are constantly updated. The computers are locked onto the coordinates as designated by your grid ley lines and vortex intersections. At the first indication that there may be need to evacuate, the computers lock onto the location of every energy entity instantly, no matter where might be the location of the human form. Don't concern yourself with that portion; just make sure you keep the signals attuned on an ongoing basis.

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Right.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: gnu
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 03:39 PM

"Light List". But, what if I eat all those Pringles?


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: number 6
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 05:01 PM

Eat all the Pringles you can now gnu ... pig right out on em ... since a solar flare could blow out the power at the Pringles factory any day now. If that happens you might never get the chance to enjoy tehm again. The government will take over all the chip/crisp factories and turn them into manufacturing soylent green.

But ... of course, this could never happen.

biLL .... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: gnu
Date: 23 Mar 12 - 08:29 PM

Oh, it could happen. If a military strike was to occur against an "enemy", a conventional bomb(s) could be used at high altitude over our own territory to knock out comms and solar flares blamed for... hmmm... I sound like some other posters. Nah... can't be.


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Mar 12 - 12:42 AM

Methinks that the concern about this, which seems to cross partisan subscription, is the unsettling distrust that the individuals in the citizenry harbor a deep distrust for the government...and their 'allegiances' to one party or the other, is a way to 'feel safe'..at least when 'your' party is in office...but then, it gets unsettling again and again, when the party you put your hopes into, starts acting like 'the other party'...as of recent, conservatives got pissed at Bush, and the Republican Congress..much like Progressives and 'liberals' tend to think Obama has moved to 'the right'.

In reality, it's a 'Hoax De-luxe'. They work for the guys who bought them the ticket....We don't get to 'vote' for them, nor do they 'represent' us.

I wonder how long it will take the ideologues to figure that out....no matter how flippin' obvious it is!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: National Defense Resources Preparedness
From: gnu
Date: 24 Mar 12 - 07:20 PM

Figure it out? What difference would that make?


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