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BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney

Jack the Sailor 06 Jul 12 - 03:39 PM
Jack the Sailor 06 Jul 12 - 03:41 PM
Don Firth 06 Jul 12 - 04:15 PM
Bobert 06 Jul 12 - 04:25 PM
Stringsinger 06 Jul 12 - 05:37 PM
Amos 06 Jul 12 - 05:38 PM
Bobert 06 Jul 12 - 05:40 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 07 Jul 12 - 04:29 PM
Sawzaw 07 Jul 12 - 07:28 PM
Greg F. 07 Jul 12 - 09:51 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 07 Jul 12 - 11:42 PM
Jack the Sailor 08 Jul 12 - 04:19 AM
Sawzaw 08 Jul 12 - 08:45 AM
GUEST 08 Jul 12 - 02:15 PM
Jack the Sailor 08 Jul 12 - 03:05 PM
Sawzaw 08 Jul 12 - 09:02 PM
Jack the Sailor 08 Jul 12 - 11:06 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 09 Jul 12 - 05:27 AM
Jack the Sailor 09 Jul 12 - 01:36 PM
Sawzaw 10 Jul 12 - 12:23 AM
Jack the Sailor 10 Jul 12 - 12:38 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 10 Jul 12 - 03:21 PM
Jack the Sailor 11 Jul 12 - 12:36 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 11 Jul 12 - 01:44 AM
Jack the Sailor 11 Jul 12 - 02:21 AM
Jack the Sailor 11 Jul 12 - 02:28 AM
Sawzaw 11 Jul 12 - 09:10 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 11 Jul 12 - 07:07 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 11 Jul 12 - 08:15 PM
Bobert 11 Jul 12 - 08:20 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 11 Jul 12 - 08:25 PM
Bobert 11 Jul 12 - 08:29 PM
Sawzaw 11 Jul 12 - 08:38 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 12 Jul 12 - 12:15 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 12 Jul 12 - 09:40 AM
GUEST,999 12 Jul 12 - 09:58 AM
Don Firth 12 Jul 12 - 10:30 PM
Bobert 12 Jul 12 - 10:36 PM
Sawzaw 12 Jul 12 - 10:54 PM
GUEST,999 13 Jul 12 - 11:30 AM
Jack the Sailor 13 Jul 12 - 11:34 AM
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Subject: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 03:39 PM

Cute ad, good music.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 03:41 PM

I stand by what I said, whatever it was.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 04:15 PM

Don't these guys know that it can be kinda dangerous to shoot themselves in the foot when their foot is in their mouth?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 04:25 PM

Romney is a hot-head who shoots first and, at best, asks questions later... He would most definitely get the US into another major war because he doesn't have the temperament to deal world leaders... He would talk down to them and that is the last quality we need in a president after Bush's wars...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Stringsinger
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 05:37 PM

Get money out of politics or you will have continuous corruption as we do now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 05:38 PM

Looking back, one of the key lessons from modern history of warfare is that those who die in the action are only a small part of the cost. TThe much larger cost is in the millions of Lives that get soured or ruined by trauma and the psychosis of battle, damaging the minds of those who cme back from war shell shocked and trained t kill..   Any student f history knows this about war.. It litters the home font with wounded minds and spoiled lives. Yet Rummy and Bush dove into their madnesses unthinking of such costs. The mind boggles.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 05:40 PM

Get the money out...

Bring in the UN or Sweden to redistrict...

New America... The kind that would make the Founding Fathers proud... Right now they are more than a tad pissed...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 12 - 04:29 PM

Bobert: "Bring in the UN or Sweden to redistrict...

New America... The kind that would make the Founding Fathers proud..."

Do you have the remotest idea how those two sentences are opposed to each other??????????????

That just shows you how far gone from anything rational can come out of politicians trying to solve problems, caused by politicians trying to 'solve' problems!!!
....and then Bozos line up nodding their heads, like they are proud enough to agree with them....haven't you any pride????

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Jul 12 - 07:28 PM

Dogma:

June 2012: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report and it is informative to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/07/06/employment-situation-june)

    May 2012: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report and it is helpful to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/06/01/employment-situation-may)

    April 2012: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report and it is helpful to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/05/04/employment-situation-april)

    March 2012: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, and it is helpful to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/04/06/employment-situation-march)

    February 2012: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report; nevertheless, the trend in job market indicators over recent months is an encouraging sign." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/03/09/employment-situation-february)

    January 2012: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report; nevertheless, the trend in job market indicators over recent months is an encouraging sign." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/02/03/employment-situation-january)

    December 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/01/06/employment-situation-december)

    November 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/12/02/employment-situation-november)

    October 2011: "The monthly employment and unemployment numbers are volatile and employment estimates are subject to substantial revision. There is no better example than August's jobs figure, which was initially reported at zero and in the latest revision increased to 104,000. This illustrates why the Administration always stresses it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/11/04/employment-situation-october)

    September 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/10/07/employment-situation-september)

    August 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/09/02/employment-situation-august)

    July 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/08/05/employment-situation-july)

    June 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/07/08/employment-situation-june)

    May 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/06/03/employment-situation-may)

    April 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/05/06/employment-situation-april)

    March 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/01/employment-situation-march)

    February 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/03/04/employment-situation-february)

    January 2011: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/02/04/employment-situation-january)

    December 2010: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/01/07/employment-situation-december)

    November 2010: "Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/12/03/employment-situation-november)

    October 2010: "Given the volatility in monthly employment and unemployment data, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/11/05/employment-situation-october)

    September 2010: "Given the volatility in the monthly employment and unemployment data, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/10/08/employment-situation-september)

    July 2010: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative. It is essential that we continue our efforts to move in the right direction and replace job losses with robust job gains." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/08/06/employment-situation-july)

    August 2010: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/09/03/employment-situation-august)

    June 2010: "As always, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/07/02/employment-situation-june)

    May 2010: "As always, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/06/04/employment-situation-may)

    April 2010: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/05/07/employment-situation-april)

    March 2010: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/04/02/employment-situation-march)

    January 2010: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/02/05/employment-situation-january)

    November 2009: "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative." (LINK: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/12/04/employment-situation-november)

Yeah Barry, we get the message


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Jul 12 - 09:51 PM

Get a life, Sawz.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 12 - 11:42 PM

Greg F: "Get a life, Sawz."

Greg F, get a brain...He posted White House press releases..with NO EDITORIALIZING, or commentary..other than, "Yes Barry, we get the message"....Isn't that what the press releases for??..that we get the 'message'?
....but certainly NOT the truth, God forbid!

Now whose turn is it to 'Get a life'?

Lamebrains!

Maybe you drooling wannabe 'so-called-liberals' should be more indignant at the source of the liars, instead of those who are pointing out, that you're being lied to.

Now watch....I'm the 'Bad Guy', for pointing out the bloody obvious!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 04:19 AM

I guess it is a proof of wrong doing (SARCASM ALERT!!!!!) to preface each release on the employment figures with. "Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative."

Especially if it was simply common sense that "it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative."

From this I would conclude that Sawzaw reads a lot more into things than actually exist and that GfS doesn't read, only skims.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 08:45 AM

Why would "common sense" need to be repeated 30 times unless it is political dogma?

Common sense says that it is Dogma. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Jack tries again with the Ad Hominem fallacy. Attack the person, not the facts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 02:15 PM

Still waiting for the in-depth analysis of the Affordable Health Care Act...let alone a viable alternative.
Well, we knew that promise was pure deranged bluster anyhow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 03:05 PM

Why would "common sense" need to be repeated 30 times unless it is political dogma?

Because not everyone reads all the previous announcements before they read the one they are currently reading.

That is the reason they put warnings and ingredients on all the packages of food and medicine in a grocery store. It is not "political dogma" it is making sure that the figures are understood properly.

Political dogma is saying 'job creators' every time cancelling a tax break on the wealthy is mentioned even though there is absolutely no assurance from these "job creators" that the extra cash has been or will be used to "create jobs."


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Sawzaw
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 09:02 PM

Would this be suitable to Jack?:

"As always, it is important not to read too much into any one warning or list of ingredients, positive or negative."

A jobs report is not a label on a package. Why does it need any spin?

And again you try to inject things to distract from the original claim. to shift the grounds. To divert argument to unrelated issues using a red herring.

The same disclaimer was repeated 30 times. Political dogma.

"Political dogma is saying 'job creators' every time cancelling a tax break on the wealthy is mentioned"

What is that assertion based on? Got anything to support that? I presented my evidence, where is yours?

Your evidence consists of logical fallacies.

Tell me Jack, how many jobs need to be created every month just to break even?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 11:06 PM

"What is that assertion based on? Got anything to support that? I presented my evidence, where is yours?"

Hold on there buddy. You have about a hundred assertions that you haven't back up. What about asserting that poor Gov. Romney can't tell the West Bank from DC. What did he ever do to you.

And by the way, you haven't proved it is Dogma. All you have proved is that you do not understand the concept of analogy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Jul 12 - 05:27 AM

Jack the Sailor: "Why would "common sense" need to be repeated 30 times unless it is political dogma?"

Because parrots who are INTO political dogma don't understand what common sense is!!....they just squawk for another free cracker.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Jul 12 - 01:36 PM

GfS You don't read Sawzaws posts!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Sawzaw
Date: 10 Jul 12 - 12:23 AM

Does Jack Know how many jobs need to be created every month to break even?

"Political dogma is saying 'job creators' every time cancelling a tax break on the wealthy is mentioned even though there is absolutely no assurance from these "job creators" that the extra cash has been or will be used to "create jobs."

Does Jack have any evidence to support this assertion?

"What about asserting that poor Gov. Romney can't tell the West Bank from DC."

Again Jack that was a question and not an assertion. And it was in another thread. In the other thread you claimed made that assertion about Obama.

"All you have proved is that you do not understand the concept of analogy."

Jack calls comparing jobs reports and packages of food and medicine in a grocery store, an analogy.

Logic . a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Jul 12 - 12:38 AM

I'm done with you Sawz. You are mentally troubled. Get help.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Jul 12 - 03:21 PM

Jack the Sailor: "I'm done with you Sawz. You are mentally troubled. Get help."

In other words, "I give up, I wasn't briefed on how to deal with reality, and facts!.....just give me some time..."

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 12:36 AM

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 01:44 AM

How helpful!..You provided an editorial from a liberal Obama supporter, who also has a blog....way to go!

Would you want to read a Sarah Palin editorial arguing against Mr. Ungar??? ....I bet you it would hold as much water with you, as Ungar's piece for me.....AND, did you notice, in the graph, that they marked Obama's spending from 2010...instead of '08??..pretty tricky, of you, ol' sailor.....but, just not deceptive enough!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 02:21 AM

>>>    In fiscal 2010 (the first Obama budget) spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
    In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.
    In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office's estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
    Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama's term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO's latest budget outlook.<<<

Obama didn't get sworn in until 2009. 2009 was Bush's budget. Some people would seem much smarter if they learned to read.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 02:28 AM

Stupid jackasses could click on links and not seem so dumb. But they don't.

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor

BTW How many "liberal bloggers" get to write for Forbes?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Sawzaw
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 09:10 AM

Does Jack Know how many jobs need to be created every month to break even?


Yes____

No____

La La La_________

I would rather call people names than answer a simple question_____


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 07:07 PM

Cute ads, Jack....the funniest, or at least AS funny, and equally ironic, is it was put out by the Barrack Obama Truth Team?????????
The words 'Obama' and 'Truth' are actually sharing the same sentence????
(not that I like Romney, either)..but that in itself is a pretty far stretch!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 08:15 PM

Somebody is PMS-ing I take it...removing another post, that was perfectly harmless. Shame shame shame...how 'liberally minded'!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 08:20 PM

Just hang in there, Jack... You are dealing with the folks that have their own ward in the state mental hospitals so ya' kinda have to keep that in perspective...

Don't let the delusional wackos get you down... It's only castles burning...

Sho nuff...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 08:25 PM

Neil Young????

Come on Bobert, you can do better than that................can't you?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 08:29 PM

Yes, I can do much better...

I learned a valuable lesson a long time ago in the dojo to use minimum force...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Sawzaw
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 08:38 PM

"delusional wackos"

They must be the ones that think there is a Lake Pontchartrain dam.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 12:15 AM

Bobert: "I learned a valuable lesson a long time ago in the dojo to use minimum force..."

You can say that again!!....but in the meantime, he's whippin' the snot out of you.

BTW, What style?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 09:40 AM

It is quite simple really, at least for those with a couple of brain cells in working condition.

It is not political dogma, and yes, it does need repeating with the release of each report, to prevent the brain dead from drawing wrong conclusions, making wrong assumptions and then posting dumb assertions as a result.

It is the same reason for which they put health warnings on all cigarette packets, rather than just on the first one after the law changed.

Simples!

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,999
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 09:58 AM

"whippin' the snot out of"

As an argument clencher it ain't. However, it has culinary potential . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 10:30 PM

One think you have to say about GoofuS is that he has real class.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 10:36 PM

Ahhhh, GfinS... Whoever it is that you think is whipping the snot out of me, then fine... If he wants my snot let me know who it is and I'll be more than happy to grind out a big loogie and blow it all over him or her...

If it's my personal stalker, Saws??? Forget it... I wouldn't let that mentally ill creep carry Charles Manson's jock strap... He ain't qualified...

Next???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Sawzaw
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 10:54 PM

At what point did the same disclaimer begin to appear on all jobs reports?

What precipitated it?

Was a law passed that said we must warn people about the contents of jobs reports?

Are jobs reports dangerous?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,999
Date: 13 Jul 12 - 11:30 AM

Create enough smoke and sooner or later no one knows where the fire is anymore.

The bigger danger is Romney: that is self evident in that those who have Republican leanings lie more about Obama than the Obama supporters lie about Romney. Besides, it's beginning to look like Romney will have to give up his presidential bid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jul 12 - 11:34 AM

They are not dangerous, when taken in perspective. Here is the perspective.

"Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative."


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Jul 12 - 10:32 PM

When did it appear and why did it start appearing.

If the disclaimer was not there before why was it necessary to insert it?

Did people's brains go dead suddenly?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Jul 12 - 12:04 AM

GUEST,999: "whippin' the snot out of"

As an argument clencher it ain't. However, it has culinary potential . . . "


It's great when you run out of key lime pie filler!
..or may I suggest a snot-jello parfait, topped with a rich coat of whipped, frosted saliva....


GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obama campaign Trumps Romney
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Jul 12 - 12:07 AM

....with a grunt-ball on top, sprinkled with boogers.

GfS


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