BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: saulgoldie
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 09:35 AM

Romney may have some traits of a fine man. Holding the kid down to cut his hair and putting the dog on the roof of his car are not among them, of course.

However, the main thrust of his campaign, other than his whining that everything Obama has touched or done is evil incarnate, is that being a good businessman makes him qualified to be a good president.

Perhaps he was a good businessman. Perhaps. Open to debate. But the imperative in business is to make profit. Whether animals, children, or the environment is/are killed in the process is immaterial. The goal is money, pure and simple.

The government, on the other hand, has a very different mission. That is to do the wish of the people, to defend the weak against the steamroller of the wealthy and powerful. it is not about making profit. Furthermore, in principle anyway, since it does NOT have to turn a profit to make investors happy, it can do things more cheaply, or at least more effectively. See: prisons, schools, roads, police, and yes, health care.

No, Romney, decent or not is most UNqualified to lead the government BECAUSE his interests are business-oriented.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 08:22 AM

Romney introduced as CEO of Bain.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 12:57 AM

It will inject its self at any opportunity.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 12:54 AM

Don,....From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 01:53 AM

Its pretends to like the music so that it can pretend to belong.

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Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 01:48 AM

Go check...who diverted the thread???....and enough about that...being as diverting any more would be contrary to YOUR post!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Elmore
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 08:33 PM

Willard is demagoguing the race issue through his accomplises.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 07:49 PM

Here is a question.

If a fine man owns a and the dog bites someone can the fine man say that he was not responsible because the dog was not on a leash?

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 07:07 PM

Careful, folks. GoofuS ia trying to divert the thread to himself/herself/itself again.

Ignore.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 06:45 PM

Jack the Sailor: "He/she/it pretends not to know what I was talking about. But it/he/she calls everyone insane and stupid but itself."
and....
Jack the Sailor: "I like your music, here is a link, you dumb-fucks who voted for him! GfS."

Speaking of which.....you forgot to post the link!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 04:52 PM

I like your music, here is a link, you dumb-fucks who voted for him! GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 04:49 PM

He/she/it pretends not to know what I was talking about. But it/he/she calls everyone insane and stupid but itself.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 03:56 PM

Jack the Sailorman: "Its pretends to like the music so that it can pretend to belong."

Huh??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 07:47 AM

I agree, Mitt Romney is a fine man. What I'm not sure about is how big the fine should be.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 01:56 AM

McCain opposition research on Mitt Romney

Hey, John, while you are at it, how about the 23 years of taxes?

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 01:53 AM

Its pretends to like the music so that it can pretend to belong.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 01:48 AM

Ebbie: "I find it interesting that anyone can say "No choice" when there is so clearly a huge difference between candidates and party aims."

Oh yeah?? What are they???...and remember, both those candidates are proven liars..any number of YouTube posts can prove that...So, what is it that they are saying, that you think there is this huge difference...I'm all 'ears'..or 'eyes'.


Here, Ebbie.....This explains it pretty well.............Enjoy!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 07:37 PM

Yeah. She's a Sanity Ex-Pat by now.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 07:31 PM

If that vacation lasts much longer, JtS, one might say that he is unemployed...

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 07:24 PM

No choice Ebbie? You'd have to be on vacation from sanity to say that! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 07:03 PM

I find it interesting that anyone can say "No choice" when there is so clearly a huge difference between candidates and party aims.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 06:47 PM

Well, it's obvious that there are not a lot of Romney supporters in Mudcat..including Me......so while you beating a dead horse(BTW catspaw, your post was interesting, and informative...considering a lot was from other candidates, trying to get the nomination)..let me see...oh yeah...so while you beating a dead horse, be fair, and honest, and vet Obama, as well....or are we going to be a walking unpaid political ad? I think that if we HONESTLY went through him, as well..well you'd probably come to the same conclusions that I have.

Another 'election' of NO CHOICE!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 12:44 PM

TO ADD ON THE REST FROM AMOS' POST...hey, with friends like these..............



20. "Gov. Romney has claimed to have created 100,000 jobs at Bain and people are wanting to know, is there proof of that claim? And was it U.S. jobs created for United States citizens?"
~Sarah Palin, Hannity, January 2012

21. "I heard Governor Romney here called me an economic lightweight because I wasn't a Wall Street financier like he was. Do you really believe this country wants to elect a Wall Street financier as the president of the United States? Do you think that's the experience that we need? Someone who's going to take and look after as he did his friends on Wall Street and bail them out at the expense of Main Street America."
~Rick Santorum, Rockford, Illinois, March 2012

22. "I don't know who all of his advisers are, but I've seen some of the names and some of them are quite far to the right. And sometimes they might be in a position to make judgments or recommendations to the candidate that should get a second thought."
~Colin Powell, MSNBC, May 2012

23. "Running a business is not the same as being president of the United States."
~Rick Santorum, CNN, March 2012

24. "If you're not sure about whether to support Mitt Romney, whether you're liberal, or whether you're very conservative, you ought to be excited, because he's been on your side at one time or another. So I'm not completely misunderstood. I'm not as excited as I am desperate."
~Louie Gohmert, Republican conference, April 2012

25. "Governor Romney supported the bailout of Wall Street and decided not to support the bailout of Detroit."
~Rick Santorum, Detroit, Michigan, February 2012

26. "At some point he has to show that he has a vision of a better way. He can't just say 'The future is bleak, follow me.' Because no one will."
~Republican strategist Mark McKinnon, according to Politico

27. "This is the free enterprise system. The only place in the world that I can recall where companies never failed was the old Soviet Union. This is what investors do in the free enterprise and capitalism system. And, yes, the free enterprise system can be cruel. But the problem with this administration is that small businesses have been the ones that have suffered the most, the kind that need investors, the kind that don't need the hundreds of pages, the thousands of pages of regulations that continue to plague them and have them continue to hold back on hiring and investment."
~John McCain, calling Romney's tenure at Bain 'cruel,' Fox News, May 2012

28. "He changed his position on virtually everything. I'm a moderate Republican, that's what I am, so I'd be inclined to support someone like Mitt Romney. But all those changes give me pause."
~Rudy Giuliani, February 2012

29. "If Mitt Romney can be pushed around, intimidated, coerced, co-opted by a conservative radio talk show host in Middle America, then how is he going to stand up to the Chinese? How is he going to stand up to Putin? How is he going to stand up to North Korea if he can be pushed around by a yokel like me? I don't think Romney is realizing the doubts that this begins to raise about his leadership."
~American Family Association spokesman Bryan Fischer during his radio program, May 2012

30. "I've never seen a guy change his position so many times, so fast, on a dime."
~Rudy Giuliani, MSNBC, December 2011

31. "We're not going to beat Barack Obama with some guy who has Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island accounts, owns shares of Goldman Sachs while it forecloses on Florida and is himself a stockholder in Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac while he tries to think the rest of us are too stupid to put the dots together to understand what this is all about."
~Newt Gingrich, Mt. Dora, Florida. January 26, 2012

32. "Don't just talk about Hispanics and say immediately we must have controlled borders. It's kind of insulting when you think about it. Change the tone would be the first thing. Second, on immigration, I think we need to have a broader approach."
~Jeb Bush, criticizing Romney's stance on immigration and his attitude toward Hispanics, Q&A session, June 2012

33. "[Mitt Romney is a] Massachusetts moderate who, in fact, is pretty good at managing the decay." He's "given no evidence in his years in Massachusetts of any ability to change the culture or change the political structure."
~Newt Gingrich, Des Moines, Iowa, January 4, 2012

34. "You can talk about the other back and forth, and flip-flopping and the other things. … If you've wrapped yourself up in too many pledges, that diminishes your ability to do what needs to be done in the final stretch to some extent."
~Jon Huntsman, MSNBC, April 2012

35. "You can't be a perfectly lubricated weather vane on the important issues of the day, whether it's Libya, whether it's the debt ceiling, whether it's the discussion around the Kasich bill in Ohio, where Gov. Romney has been missing in action in terms of showing any kind of leadership."
~Jon Huntsman, CNN, October 2011

36. "Can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? The fact is, you ran in '94 and lost. That's why you weren't serving in the Senate with Rick Santorum. The fact is, you had a very bad re-election rating, you dropped out of office, you had been out of state for something like 200 days preparing to run for president. You didn't have this interlude of citizenship while you thought about what you do. You were running for president while you were governor."
~Newt Gingrich, NBC News/ Facebook debate, January 8, 2012

37. "I would just have a different policy than what he has espoused… We need to recognize we are not going to deport 12 million people, and … we shouldn't."
~Haley Barbour, criticizing Romney's 'self-deportation' immigration stance, Christian Science Monitor breakfast, June 2012

38. "Now you have to ask a question – is that really, is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of other people and walk off with the money? Or is that in fact somehow a little bit of a flawed system? And so I do draw distinction between looting a company, leaving behind broken families and broken neighborhoods and then leaving a factory that should be there."
~Newt Gingrich, Manchester, NH, January 9, 2012

39. "Maybe Governor Romney in the spirit of openness should tell us how much money he's made off of how many households that have been foreclosed by his investments."
~Newt Gingrich, CNN debate, January 26, 2012

40. "Clearly while the president is overseas, he's at a conference and while the president is overseas I think it's appropriate that people not be critical of him or our country."
~John Boehner, in response to a question by NBC News on whether Mitt Romney's criticism of President Obama is inappropriate since Obama was in Russia at the time, March 2012

41. "Now, for Romney to believe that somebody's grandmother is going to be so cut off she is going to self deport… He certainly shows no concern for the humanity of people who are already here… I think you have to live in worlds of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and automatic $20 million a year income with no work to have some fantasy this far from reality."
~Newt Gingrich, Univision, January 25, 2012

42. "This is a man whose staff created the PAC, his millionaire friends fund the PAC, he pretends he has nothing to do with the PAC – it's baloney. He's not telling the American people the truth… I just think he ought to be honest with the American people and try to win as the real Mitt Romney, not try to invent a poll-driven, consultant-guided version that goes around with talking points, and I think he ought to be candid. I don't think he's being candid and that will be a major issue. From here on out from the rest of this campaign, the country has to decide: Do you really want a Massachusetts moderate who won't level with you to run against Barack Obama who, frankly, will just tear him apart? He will not survive against the Obama machine."
~Newt Gingrich, CBS' "The Early Show," January 3, 2012

43. "Those of us who believe in free markets and those of us who believe that in fact the whole goal of investment is entrepreneurship and job creation, we find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families without a job." ~Newt Gingrich, January 8, 2012

44. "Now I have no doubt that Mitt Romney was worried about pink slips — whether he was going to have enough of them to hand out because his company Bain Capital with all the jobs that they killed, I'm sure he was worried that he'd run out of pink slips. There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business and I happen to think that's indefensible. If you're a victim of Bain Capital's downsizing, it's the ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you he feels your pain, because he caused it."
~Rick Perry, South Carolina, January 9, 2012

45. " I think it's that program, just updated."
~RNC spokesman Alexandra Franceschi, admitting that Romney's economic plan is the Bush plan on steroids, The Fernando Espuelas Show, April 2012

46. "There's a real difference between venture capitalism and vulture capitalism. Venture capitalism we like. Vulture capitalism, no. And the fact of the matter is that he's going to have to face up to this at some time or another, and South Carolina is as good a place to draw that line in the sand as any. That's not what we're looking for in a president of the United States. We're looking for someone that knows how to build jobs, create jobs. And that's what I've done in the state of Texas. So there's no use trying to paper this over. That is a problem for Mitt, and he's going to have to face it."
~Rick Perry, Hannity, January 2012

47. "I think that it has to be a very humane approach to this issue, and we have to come up with solutions to it. But we also have to do something about the drugs that are coming across our southern border that are killing our kids… I think there are some people who want to leave this country and return to the country they came from, but obviously it requires a broader solution that that, and we all know that."
~John McCain, slamming Romney's 'self deportation' immigration plan as an inhumane idea, Univision, February 2012

48. "I know the difference between venture capital[ism] and vulture capitalism. Venture capitalism is a good thing, comes in, gives that gap funding to help these companies get off and get started creating jobs, and work. But Mitt Romney and Bain Capital were involved with what I call vulture capitalism. And they walked into Gaffney and took over that photo album company for no other reason than to basically pick the bones clean. And those people lost their jobs."
~Rick Perry, referring to a local photo-album manufacturer in Gaffney where 150 jobs were cut when Bain assumed control, January 10, 2012

49. "I believe most Americans want their next President to remind them of the guy they work with, not the guy who laid them off."
~Mike Huckabee, describing Mitt Romney in a 2008 campaign ad.

50. "There is no one who's gonna be sitting on that stage who has the record of job creation I have. There's one in particular who's created jobs all around the world. While he was the governor of Massachusetts he didn't create many jobs."
~Rick Perry, attacking Romney's record of outsourcing and job creation, September 2011

51. "Romney, supposedly the Republican most electable next November, is a recidivist reviser of his principles who is not only becoming less electable; he might damage GOP chances of capturing the Senate… Republicans may have found their Michael Dukakis…"
~George Will, blasting Romney's flip flopping, Washington Post, October 2011

52. "He spent more time on the road to Damascus than a Syrian camel driver. And we thought nobody could fill John Kerry's flip-flops! … [Romney's record was] "anything but conservative until he changed all the light bulbs in his chandelier in time to run for President."
~Mike Huckabee, attacking Romney in his book for flip flopping, Do The Right Thing, 2008

53. "Bless his heart, I have respect for Mitt Romney, but I do not have respect for what he has done through this debt increase debate. He waited until it was a done deal that we would increase the debt ceiling and more money would be spent, more money would be borrowed and spent on bigger government, and then he came out and made a statement that he didn't like the deal after all. You can't defer an issue and assume that the problem is then going to be avoided."
~Sarah Palin, ripping Romney for avoiding taking a position on the debt ceiling debate until after Congress voted to raise it, Hannity, August 2011

54. "I don't think that Mitt Romney can legitimately say that he learned anything about how to create jobs in the LBO (leveraged buyout) business. The LBO business is about how to strip cash out of old, long-in-the-tooth companies and how to make short-term profits. All the jobs that he talks about came from Staples. That was a very early venture stage deal. That, you know they got out of long before it got to its current size."
~Former Reagan OMB Director David Stockman, on Romney's job creation experience, Fox News, May 2012

55. "The fact is, there are a couple of years he may not have paid any taxes. Maybe he's concerned about that. But if it's going to come out, he needs to get it out now so he has a couple of months to explain it."
~Former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, "Morning Joe," MSNBC, July 16, 2012

56. "All we have to do is replace Obama. We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate. Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become President of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared."
~Grover Norquist, calling for conservatives to elect a weak President they can use as a puppet, CPAC, February 2012. NOTE: While Norquist did not specifically mention Romney, other Republicans on this list have noted Romney's weak leadership skills and his lack of spine in standing for what he believes in. Bryan Fischer stated in an earlier quote that Romney would be a pushover as President, which is exactly the kind of President that Norquist wants.

These are not ringing endorsements of Mitt Romney. These Republicans are merely speaking the truth about a man who has been running for President for years. He's a flip flopper, a war monger, a vulture capitalist, a tax evader, an outsourcer, a job destroyer, a Wall Street puppet, a weak minded hypocrite who has no vision and zero leadership skills. He cares nothing for the poor or the middle class, and only seeks to help the wealthy at the expense of the rest of the American people. And his fellow Republicans know this. Republicans are not excited about Romney and they think he won't be a good leader, yet they expect the people to vote for him anyway. They must think American voters are stupid. If even Republicans have a problem with Romney, voters shouldn't make him our President. These are Republican quotes every American should actually believe and take seriously.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Stringsinger
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 12:32 PM

Romney is shady. He is tricky like Nixon. How about dishonest and disingenuous?
Does this define a fine man? Oh he's clever all right.

His business practices give you an idea of how he would be as president. He would offshore everything American including the Constitution.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,sciencegeek
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 11:33 AM

I was really disgusted by Mitt's total disconnect with reality as the 99% is forced to see it.   He talked about his lay ministry and counseling people who had lost their jobs, etc. and then goes on to be "proud" of his Bain record. and loving to fire people. WTF!!!!

Is this is his idea of being a good christian? He has more in common with the moneychangers and other hypocrits... remember the ones that Jesus whipped from the temple?

I may be an atheist, but I seem to have a little better understanding of what the principles of Christianity are supposed to be than most of the folks representing the Right.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Stringsinger
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 10:38 AM

Mitt Romney is an elitist, cool, aloof and unaware or not empathetic with the plight
of ordinary Americans. He is no Roosevelt. He promotes his wealth as a badge of honor, which is specious because it was arrived at through investments and luxuries given to him by his parents and others. There is no self made man, always requiring the help of others in society, those wealthy who rely on the docile acceptance of those who are not.

He would be a terrible president because his quotient of compassion for working people is practically if not completely nil. He deserves the nickname "RoboCorp" because he has dehumanized the political process by endorsing the "Citizen's United" debacle given by the Supreme Court.

He gives off the appearance of being a moral person and rather exults in it showing little humility and rubbing the public's nose in dressage horses and car elevators.

He is devious in his refusal to be transparent by allowing the public to see his tax records which may be incriminating to him through his business dealings.

He has outsources so many jobs and hoarded his money in Swiss bank accounts and the Cayman Islands and legally, he has the right to do this, which is unfortunate because what is deemed legal by those who control that in powerful roles and they are not always just. Justice and legality have historically been at odds.

This Supreme Court is flawed not unlike the Court that endorsed Dred Scott and slavery.

Mitt Romney might be a fine man to his family and friends but not to the American public who will regret it if he becomes president.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Greg F.
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 10:12 AM

Sheldon Adelson, Bruce? You mean the obnoxious, criminal, billionaire scumbag? The one who bought Gingrich? THAT Sheldon Adelson?

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 08:35 AM

Republicans know Romney has more to hide.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 03:07 AM

A fine man's foreign policy views.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 02:53 AM

"All we have to do is replace Obama. We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate. Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become President of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared."
~Grover Norquist, calling for conservatives to elect a weak President they can use as a puppet, CPAC, February 2012. NOTE: While Norquist did not specifically mention Romney, other Republicans on this list have noted Romney's weak leadership skills and his lack of spine in standing for what he believes in. Bryan Fischer stated in an earlier quote that Romney would be a pushover as President, which is exactly the kind of President that Norquist wants.

These are not ringing endorsements of Mitt Romney. These Republicans are merely speaking the truth about a man who has been running for President for years. He's a flip flopper, a war monger, a vulture capitalist, a tax evader, an outsourcer, a job destroyer, a Wall Street puppet, a weak minded hypocrite who has no vision and zero leadership skills. He cares nothing for the poor or the middle class, and only seeks to help the wealthy at the expense of the rest of the American people. And his fellow Republicans know this. Republicans are not excited about Romney and they think he won't be a good leader, yet they expect the people to vote for him anyway. They must think American voters are stupid. If even Republicans have a problem with Romney, voters shouldn't make him our President. These are Republican quotes every American should actually believe and take seriously.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/16/56-republican-quotes-against-mitt-romney-every-american-should-take-seriously/

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 02:51 AM

"The fact is, there are a couple of years he may not have paid any taxes. Maybe he's concerned about that. But if it's going to come out, he needs to get it out now so he has a couple of months to explain it."
~Former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, "Morning Joe," MSNBC, July 16, 2012

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 02:44 AM

"Those of us who believe in free markets and those of us who believe that in fact the whole goal of investment is entrepreneurship and job creation, we find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families without a job." ~Newt Gingrich, January 8, 2012

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 02:37 AM

'6. "He's not a bold decision maker like Newt Gingrich is. Every time I talk to him, he says 'well let me think about it.'"

~Romney supporter Sheldon Adelson, describing his new favorite Presidential candidate as a weak man who can't make decisions, Jewish Journal, March 28, 2012'


If indeed Sheldon Adelson said that, I wish to thank him for capturing the essence of the Republican mindset in two sentences.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 02:22 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/opinion/krugman-policy-and-the-personal.html

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 02:20 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/when-did-romney-step-back-from-bain-its-complicated.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&smid=tw-share

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 01:43 AM

How Bain made Romney rich.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jul 12 - 12:38 AM

What is unique to Romney among Republicans is that he sticks to the lie even after he gets caught. Most switch to a new lie.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: ollaimh
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 11:49 PM

let's not forget romney's endless string of outright lies. look at the guardian articel posted by richard bridges or the msn regular blog following romney's lies.

my favourite is his assertion that oboma is touring the world apologizing for america, or that obama doubled the deficit(he lowered it) or that he raised taxes(he lowered them as part of the stimulus/

but the lies are a whole new tactic in american politics. never in recent times have we seen such a regular and repeated string of lies from a candidate.

decent men don't lie

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 11:40 PM

Oh give him a break...after Obama runs the deficit and economy to the ground, and beyond, who else would be qualified to liquidate America, and shut her down??..The guy with the most experience...Romney!!..After all, Obama was the most experienced in fucking things up, even worse than before...the two of them is a 'marriage' made in...ummm.....let's see...oh yeah, back rooms!......(or golf courses!).

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: ollaimh
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 11:32 PM

his admissions of bullying a gay student in college pretty much ended ny considering him a decent man. the dog torture was awfull as well.

he is offering nothing but to double down on the no taxes and no regulation susten that created the american debt and the crash.

lucky for canadians we had the liberals in power during the deregulation fiasco and they wouldn't let the banks enter the speculative markets like subprime mortgages and the bundled options and bonds based on them. and presto, we had no bank fasilures no bail outs and no crash. we are affected by the slump to the south as we sell a lot of everything we produce to our american friends but we have had a big increase in sales to the orient.

the no tax and no regulation people are ideologs who are destroying america. if this debt isn't turned arouns__run up by republicams two to one--america will cease to be a major power in our time.

fine men don't torture gay people and animals

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 11:06 PM

Some excerpts from fellow Republicans about Mister R:

1. ⁠"If you have things to hide, then maybe you're doing things wrong. I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people."
~Alabama Governor Robert Bentley, calling for Romney to release more years of tax returns, AP, July 14, 2012

2. "Now Mitt is not a perfect candidate. He has a number of problems. It's hard for him, for blue collar families like mine to identify with him. It's hard for economic conservatives to identify with him. He needs to do more to reach out to Latinos…"
~Former Republican NY Governor George Pataki, "endorsing" Romney and then telling the world how weak he is as a candidate, MSNBC, April 2012

3. "They (voters) want to know what's the truth. They're not interested in a chameleon."
~Michele Bachmann, criticizing Mitt Romney's flip flopping, speech in Florida, December 2011

4. "Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again. But I will say, if you look at the exit polling data in Illinois, you'll see that Mitt Romney is broadly acceptable to most of the factions in the party. You have to do that in order to become the nominee…"
~Romney Communications Director Eric Fehrnstrom, describing his boss as a man who can't make up his mind, CNN, March 21, 2012

5. "There are a lot of other people out there that some of us wish had run for President, but they didn't. I think Mitt Romney would be a fine President, and he'd be way better than the guy who's there right now."
~Republican Senator Marco Rubio, wishing there were another candidate to pick from, The Daily Caller, March 2012





6. "He's not a bold decision maker like Newt Gingrich is. Every time I talk to him, he says 'well let me think about it.'"
~Romney supporter Sheldon Adelson, describing his new favorite Presidential candidate as a weak man who can't make decisions, Jewish Journal, March 28, 2012

7. "I do know that all of the Michigan delegation worked very hard as related to the revival of the auto industry. There was really a choice between bankruptcy and liquidation. There was no one that was willing to come up not only with the cash to keep them afloat but also to serve the warranties of everyone, you and I that drive all these cars. There was no one that could have picked up those pieces other than the federal government. [The auto bailout was] ⁠bipartisan from the get-go. [Without it,] Michigan would have hit 40 percent unemployment rates."
~Republican Michigan Rep. Fred Upton, endorsing Romney and then disagreeing with him about the auto bailout which has been a major Romney attack point, WMUK Radio, February 2012

8. "Mitt Romney and I don't agree on every issue and certainly housing is one of them. When you look at what is going on here in Southern Nevada, you can't say you got to let the housing market hit bottom. We have been bouncing along the bottom for years. And the fact is we have to do everything possible to: 1) keep people in their homes and 2) get people who are out of their homes back into their homes."
~Republican Nevada Rep. Joe Heck, endorsing Romney, then distancing himself from Romney's call to let home foreclosures hit the bottom, Las Vegas Sun, February 2012

9. "Santorum connects with some people. Unfortunately, my guy has a hard time doing that."
~Former AZ Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen, endorsing Romney and then tearing him down, CNN, February 2012.

10. "Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big bold visionary stuff…We're gonna have problems politically until we get some sort of third party movement or some alternate voice out there that can put forward new ideas."
~Jon Huntsman, saying that we need a third party not long after endorsing Romney. Also implying that Romney is not bold, nor a visionary leader, "Morning Joe," MSNBC, February 2012

11. "He may not be Mr. Personality, uh, you know, this is a guy who gives a fireside chat and the fire goes out."
~Former GOP Virginia Rep. Tom Davis, endorsing Romney and then announcing how bland and boring Mitt is, News Channel 8 interview, March 2012

12. "Self-deport? What the heck does that mean? I have no doubt Hispanics have been alienated during this campaign. But now there's an opportunity for Gov. Romney to have a sincere conversation about what we can do and why. I absolutely advocate for comprehensive immigration reform. Republicans want to be tough and say, 'Illegals, you're gone.' But the answer is a lot more complex than that."
~New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez, slamming Romney's stance on immigration, Newsweek, May 2012

13. "Pick any other Republican in the country. He is the worst Republican in
the country to put up against Barack Obama."
~Rick Santorum, calling Mitt Romney the worse Republican anyone can possibly pick to be the nominee, Racine, Wisconsin, March 2012

14. "He should release the tax returns tomorrow. It's crazy. You've got to release six, eight, ten years back tax returns. Take the hit for a day or two. He has to give a big speech in defense of capitalism, and that will elevate, I think, this race above this tactical back and forth, which I do think he's on the margin of losing."
~Bill Kristol, criticizing Romney's refusal to release tax returns on Fox News, July 15, 2012

15. "He glosses over and doesn't even tell the truth. … Here is a guy who is the ultimate flip-flopper running for president, and he's attacking me for not being principled? That doesn't wash."
~Rick Santorum, campaign event in Tennessee, February 2012

16. "Mitt Romney's losing at this point in a big way. If something's going to come out, get it out in a hurry. I do not know why — given that Mr. Romney knew the day that [Sen. John] McCain lost in 2008 that he was going to run for president again — that he didn't get all of this out and tidy up some of his offshore accounts and all the rest."
~George Will, criticizing Romney for not releasing more tax returns, ABC, July 15, 2012



17. "One of Governor Romney's aides today on television said that Governor Romney, after he wins the primaries, will be like an [Etch A Sketch] — you take whatever he said and you can shake it up and it will be gone, and he's going to draw a whole new picture for the general election."
~Rick Santorum, Harvey, Louisiana, March 2012

18. "I do not yet know if I will find a Romney presidency more acceptable on foreign policy. But I do know that I must oppose the most recent statements made by Mitt Romney in which he says he, as president, could take us to war unilaterally with Iran, without any approval from Congress."
~Rand Paul, National Review, June 2012

19. "We can't nominate such a weak candidate. I'd love to be able to get one-on-one with Gov. Romney and expose the record that would be the weakest record we could possibly put up against Barack Obama."
~Rick Santorum, ABC, March 2012

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 09:21 PM

Now be fair. He doesn't do that any more. He simply set up an organization that does that and continues to profit from it and own much of it without any "managerial input" at all.

Yeah right!

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Stringsinger
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 08:57 PM

Mitt is a mine fan. He mines companies and throws them away.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Elmore
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 08:46 PM

Finally Willard shows his sense of humor. Yesterday he accused the President of being a Chicago politician. There's not ten cents worth of difference between Chicago politics and Boston politics.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 08:32 PM

There is some truth to that Stringsinger.

I think a major problem with our system is that everything that Romney did at Bain was legal. I think the problem with Romney is that he thinks what he did was moral and ethical. Does that make him a fine man?

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Stringsinger
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 08:27 PM

There is no discussion here. Romney represents a predator company that outsources American jobs and he didn't earn everything himself.

He refuses to show his taxes because he is hiding something.

There is no billionaire that is self-made. They prey on the economic disadvantage of others. Corporations require government to establish them.

Romney knew full well what Bain was doing when they became a predator company and that's why he won't release his taxes.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 05:08 PM

The President hasn't said anything about felonies. One of his aids has speculated.

To me from the evidence I have seen it is pretty clear that Romney hasn't lied to the any government. Frankly, I do not believe that he is stupid enough to have blindly walked away from at least 100 million dollars of his own money and leave it totally in the care of others no matter how much he trusted them.

I do believe that he counts on enough voters to be stupid enough to take him and his employees and former employees at their word when they make this outrageous, silly and completely self serving claim.

A lot of Republicans are telling him to "take his medicine" and "come clean" frankly I am glad that he is arrogant enough to stay the course on this.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 04:27 PM

Well, Elmore, I wish you could type 'cause I'd like to hear your argument...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Elmore
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 04:23 PM

I think the President should do the gentlemanly thing, and pardon Willard for the felonies he's committed. I'd give a long, cogent argument in this regard, but I can't type.

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 03:51 PM

Maybe they're all politicians...and all the same!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 03:43 PM

Aren't Guests supposed to identify themselves?

Subject: RE: BS: Mitt Romney is a fine man
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jul 12 - 02:58 PM

Bobert: "Fine, pdq...
Romney releases his 2000 and 2001 tax returns and that should prove it...
His father was all about transparency..."

YEAH!!..First he gives the model of Obamacare..and now he's shown Obama about 'transparency'...What a guy!!!..I'm surprised more Democrats love him....or was that Republicans?....Oh hell, it's hard to tell the difference, anymore..I think that only the 'devotee parrots' just haven't figured it out, yet....Keeps them thinking they have a freedom of choice!...

"...ant the winner of this year's best Academy Award, for this year's feature animated film, goes to...."

Gee, i could write more interesting scripts, that weren't so predictable, for the ending....hmmm...what if I did...........?
Shit, I wonder how much they pay the guy with the 'storyline'....probably better than Hollywood....hmmm..maybe if the money is right......
See my agent!

GfS