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Last night's session - what a cracker!

Will Fly 18 Jul 12 - 08:01 AM
GUEST,leeneia 18 Jul 12 - 10:22 AM
Will Fly 18 Jul 12 - 10:30 AM
Waddon Pete 18 Jul 12 - 11:08 AM
GUEST,Blandiver 18 Jul 12 - 11:19 AM
GUEST,Stim 18 Jul 12 - 11:43 AM
Leadfingers 18 Jul 12 - 12:00 PM
Will Fly 18 Jul 12 - 01:33 PM
Will Fly 18 Jul 12 - 02:25 PM
Big Al Whittle 18 Jul 12 - 02:40 PM
Will Fly 18 Jul 12 - 02:54 PM
Leadfingers 18 Jul 12 - 06:20 PM
GUEST,Hootenanny 18 Jul 12 - 06:39 PM
Big Al Whittle 18 Jul 12 - 08:00 PM
Will Fly 19 Jul 12 - 03:58 AM
GUEST,Hootenanny 19 Jul 12 - 05:33 AM
SteveMansfield 19 Jul 12 - 05:39 AM
TheSnail 19 Jul 12 - 05:42 AM
Will Fly 19 Jul 12 - 06:23 AM
Jack Campin 19 Jul 12 - 06:54 AM
GUEST,Hootenanny 19 Jul 12 - 10:58 AM
Will Fly 19 Jul 12 - 11:48 AM
Jack Campin 19 Jul 12 - 01:12 PM
Mysha 20 Jul 12 - 09:27 AM
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Subject: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 08:01 AM

I popped over to a pub in Lewes (Sussex) last night - not a folk club venue - by invitation, to help a session along. And what a lovely evening it was.

The session organiser, G---, and I were there for about an hour before anyone else turned up, and played through some American old-time music on guitar/mandolin (me) and fiddle/whistles (Gill). Stuff we both knew and other tunes that I'd never heard before but were a delight to play. We were just about to finish the "Westphalia Waltz" on fiddle and mandolin when another fiddle player turned up, tuned her instrument up and managed a couple of cracking choruses with us. Then two of her friends, father and daughter, arrived with cello, guitar and French pipes, followed by another fiddler who was into Irish and French music.

So we played some Irish tunes, Welsh tunes I'd never heard before, French tunes in Bb (yes!), why I even managed to sneak in a few verses of "Deep River Blues" under the tape... It was a most pleasant evening - enough people and different instruments to make the sound work, but not so many that it became a misch-masch. A free pint from a young and friendly landlord, great musicianship from all around me - and a few bob at the end to pay for petrol.

As I've said before, it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on. G---, by the way, has an endearing habit of warming up her whistles by sticking them down her cleavage before playing them. Here's to the next time!


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 10:22 AM

Congratulations!


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 10:30 AM

Thanks, leeneia. Whenever I see the usual to-ing and fro-ing (mainly from UK 'Catters) about "folk" - what it is, how it isn't, with all the inevitable clichés about 1954 and horses thrown in - then it's great to celebrate the music and remind ourselves that we can just play it. No agenda, no overtones or undertones, just tones!


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 11:08 AM

Amen to that, Will!


Best wishes,

Pete


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 11:19 AM

Sounds like an average Friday neet at t'Moorbrook - though there you get the tooth-pulling as well.

Folk is as Folk does.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 11:43 AM

It's amazing how things can fall together sometimes! I must admit, I opened this thread with great trepidation (or morbid curiousity) because here in the US "What a cracker!" means something very different.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 12:00 PM

Will - I am sure I would enjoy a bash with you and your friends - Shame petrol is so pricey when you are on a limited income !


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 01:33 PM

Stim - tell me more!


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 02:25 PM

Terry - if you get yourself down to Sussex on the last Sunday of this month (29th), there's a bed for you at my place. The Bull in Ditchling (10 minutes from me) has a cracking session on that date. I'm running the session with my fellow band member, Julian Burton (saxes & melodeons) on that Saturday.

Still petrol to pay, but bed and feed on me. PM me if you're interested.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 02:40 PM

its an odd business - how these Americans say there aren't any folk clubs over there. After all - all those nice guitars and banjos come from over there. Where can they all be going - if not to people who play folk music?

Unfathomable....


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 02:54 PM

Al - I have several friends in the US. The distances are vast - 300 miles round trip to get to a dentist... If you're not in an urban centre, musical get-togethers can be almost impossible.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 06:20 PM

But there ARE what we would recognise as Folk Clubs over there , mostly in Urban Areas - New York , San Fran , Boston , Seattle and DC
for a start . As Will said , the distances are the problem .


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 06:39 PM

Hey Will,

Sounds like an excellent way to while away a few hours. It's really amazing at times just how things can come together with a group of people that you haven't previously met and it works. I have had this experence a few times over the years although I must admit that my musical ability is not as wide and accomplished as yours.
I would say that you don't necessarily have to live in an urban area in the States to find sessions. In the tri-state area of North Western North Carolina, South West Virginia and East Tennessee there are a number of sessions that go on all the time. Many regular and many informal. I do realise that this area is exceptional but I feel sure there are other rural areas that are similar - in the South anyway.

Hoot


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Jul 12 - 08:00 PM

Actually Hoot old chap, its a bit more than a way to while a few hours for most of us.   Its basically what we did with our lives. Perhaps a bit sad, but at least we didn't become serial murderers and hurt a lot of people, or anything like that.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Will Fly
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 03:58 AM

Oh I don't know, Al. There may have been a couple of serial murderers at the session on Tuesday - off duty and in plain clothes of course. If so, they were jolly nice ones.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 05:33 AM

Well Al,
It's a bit late to worry about it now if that's all that you did with your life. I doubt that anyone makes a living from informal sessions of the sort which I believe Will was speaking of.
I saw a bumper sticker in the States at one time to the effect that the best musicians have real jobs. In my experience that is often very true. There are many, many musically very accomplished people out in the real world who get by with "real" jobs from postmen, carpenters, doctors, teachers, printers etc etc etc and it is largely from people such as this that I have heard some of the best informal music sessions.

Hoot


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 05:39 AM

I'm sure if any serial murderers over the past 50 years had been folkies the fact would have brought to our attention by lurid headlines nicknaming them as The Banjoist Batterer, The Mandolin Murderer, The Tin Whistle Torturer etc etc ...


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: TheSnail
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 05:42 AM

Er? Leadbelly?


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Will Fly
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 06:23 AM

Lead Belly indeed - two stretches for murder and sung his way out with a free pardon.

Now if he'd been in Lewes on Tuesday night, what a session that would have been! There was a piano in the pub - a few choruses of "Eagle Rock Rag" would have shaken us up good and proper.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 06:54 AM

According to this:

http://www.murderuk.com/serial_dennis_andrew_nilsen.html

Dennis Nilsen has recorded some songs while in jail but he's having problems getting them out. He seems to be in a jail in Yorkshire.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 10:58 AM

If you include blues musicians under the "Folkies" umbrella then there are several more that could be added, Robert Pete Williams for example and don't forget the western swing band leader who murdered his wife who despite what I have just said I can't recall the name of at the moment. Then there was Jimmy Strothers recorded in prison and there for life having decapitated his wife. More up to date was Auburn aka Pat Hare Howling Wolf's side man who once rcorded a song entitled "I'm Gonna Murder My Baby". Some years later guess what he did.
That lot could have livened up your session even more Will. But you might be a bit worried if Jimmy Strothers asked for a loan of your axe for his next number.

Hoot


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Will Fly
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 11:48 AM

Then there was Don Drummond, the Jamaican trombone player (the Skatalites), who ended his life in prison after murdering his long-time girlfriend.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Jul 12 - 01:12 PM

And the Swedish fiddler H.L. Erlandsson, whose best known tune is the polska "Pennknivsmordaren" ("The Penknife Killer") - he did a few years in jail for killing someone with a penknife (and by all accounts not regretting it one little bit).

This getting to be a lively evening. Maybe we should get Idi Amin along to keep order with his accordion.


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Subject: RE: Last night's session - what a cracker!
From: Mysha
Date: 20 Jul 12 - 09:27 AM

Hi,

Well, the story tells us Thomas C. Dula wrote that well-known song about his final days while he was in prison.

But indeed, some of the greatest music is from people who are together for whatever other reason, and join the instruments they took along anyway or that happened to be present.

Bye,
                                                                  Mysha


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