BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:54 AM

"Squeezing the Populace? Of course not, Gnu - Corporations are the solution, not the problem.

Just ask Ida Tarbell and Sinclair Lewis.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: bobad
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:36 AM

Jon Stewart on Eastwood's performance: watch

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 09:21 AM

Yes, Jon Stewart does seem to have a clear memory of what the Republicans were doing these last four years to derail Obama's recovery program, compared with Romney's script.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 10:51 AM

Here is the entire Friday's episode of the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. This is the same video that part of is embedded in bobad's link, but it's the whole show. Just for giggles...

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 11:17 AM

Bobert's empty chair talking to him in a senior moment:

"Oh, but Bobert, then you are going to take capital away from the rich and then they won't have the $$$ to build factories to hire everyone else?"

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 11:47 AM

Chongo LOVES this idea of debating with an empty chair! He is going to start "Eastwooding" all his political opponents in just the same fashion. He'll glare at the chair and say things like, "If my mama heard you usin' language like that, she'd rip yer damn face off!" or he'll scornfully remark..."Oh, just have a banana and shut up for half a minute, why don'cha?"

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 11:56 AM

Based on the convention, the GOP should pick a new animal to replace the elephant. I suggest a marsupial: The Muck-filled Platitude

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 12:20 PM

"The Old Man and the Seat"
"There is a President Obama that only Republicans can see."

Great lines.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 01:12 PM

Bill Maher... no time to make a clicky...

http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/bill-maher-part-1-82912/1415202/

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:09 PM

Bill Maher on NRC

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 05:34 PM

sheeeesh Guest at 12:20 was me. I am finding that I tossed my cookies longer ago than I thought.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:06 PM

I take away two things from the Democratic response:

1. They criticise Mr.Eastwood's delivery, when they know his health is challenged(how compassionate).

2. And the fact that the Republicans, should hire an accomplished actor/director/musician to speak at the convention, so what do the Democrats do? They hire Eva Longoria, more of a sex symbol than either an actress, non-director, or non-musician!

They must have a insatiable taste for that sexy 'Charm', Ebbie was so much in demand of having!!

That certainly doesn't speak very highly of the Democratic response, AGAIN!

Are the Democrats against raising the bar when it comes to an intellectual dialogue? THIS is what is needed, and to back off the 'emotional' levels of debate! This makes them look weak, needy and impotent, for which they are vulnerable to be attacked, and lose.

I think if the people of either party would be a little more critical of their nonsensical positions, only then could some constructive dialogue begin! As it is now, it is only a satire, and parody of the ridiculousness of the parties they say they are!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:16 PM

The Republican convention was intellectual dialog?

Coulda fooled me!! All I heard was a lot of self-congratulatory puffery, salted with snarky but unsubstantial comments about the current administration, and attempts to blame Obama for inaction, when it was their OWN bullheaded refusal to allow him to do much of anything he tried to do.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:47 PM

Mr. Firth, Being from the U.K., I cannot find it within myself to commend the Republican Convention, nor denigrate it.My observation is this: Mr. Romney and Mr. Rand failed to lay out a fiscal plan, which may seem like a disappointment to many, myself included, however, I think this may have been a 'strategic move' rather than an omission.

I say this because. I believe they wish to save it till after the Democratic Convention, and unleash it in the debates. When the Obama machine has been, and is churning out accusations and worthless mudslinging rhetoric, and devoting their time and energies to that, I believe that the Republicans, will be holding back, readying themselves to unleash a barrage of economic and fiscal facts and solutions, on your President Obama during the debates, to make him look flustered, and ill prepared.

If the Democrats wish to succeed, they must back off the nasty rhetoric, and begin and intellectual and workable discussion of solutions, dealing with economics, rather than the emotional highs of a utopian American/Marxist Dream,

Now let's stop the hype! After all, that's what it is.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:11 PM

GUEST, Nobody in particular, being across the pond, you have apparently missed a lot of the "accusations and worthless mudslinging rhetoric" from the Republicans--including such assininities as trying to claim that Obama launched a weather modification program (cloud seeding and such) to create hurricane Isaac for the purpose of disrupting the Republican convention. Or ceaselessly blaming Obama for the sins and transgressions of the BUSH administration, which Obama has had the task of to trying to clean up after.

If you are going to comment of American politics, then DO try to keep up.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:32 PM

"Being from the U.K."

You know what? I don't believe you. Not even for one moment. There could not be TWO such.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:36 PM

"I believe that the Republicans, will be holding back, readying themselves to unleash a barrage of economic and fiscal facts and solutions, on your President Obama during the debates, to make him look flustered, and ill prepared."

Hahahahaaaaaheeeheheheheee. Good one!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:39 PM

"Nasty0 rhetoric", nobody... Try having lived here in Charlotte, NC for the last 4 months and watch Obama being carpet bombed by Romney's boys night after night on every channel that you can find... Talk about nasty... They have bought up almost all ad spots here and are using them to tell lies, lies and more lies... They don't care if they are lies... They have hogged the advertising and they plan on lying right up to the election...

Some nights they have a 20 to 1 advantage in ads... On a good night it's only 7 to 1... Major secret $$$... These creeps won't even tell us who they are... They hide behind all kinds of flowery sounding organizations that don't exist... Americans for Mom and Apple Pie...

You are misinformed, pal...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:39 PM

Ebbie, once again you show your lack of both understanding, and discernment. I am indeed from the U.K. and am now in America, on break from touring.

Mr. Firth, I've been keeping up quite well, thank you. I'm just not deluded by taking one side or the other. You should then find my last comment quite objective. Can you say as much??

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:52 PM

Sorry, Bobert, I missed your comment typing mine.
May I suggest to you, that if the Democrats used their campaign funds more wisely, as your country's other finances, perhaps the Republicans would not be outspending them by twenty to one, as you say. Did you ever think about that?

gnu, Your comment is very short-sighted! I have never indicated whether I favour one of your parties over the other. I'm just providing an objective view of both. I believe Little Hawk has done you the same service. Perhaps being a bit less of a cynic, may serve you well!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:01 PM

Google "Citizens United", nobody... We are being carpet bombed by cowards who don't have to say who they are... For all we know it could be al qeada... There is no way of knowing how much is being spent and by whom... Obama is in the middle of a gun fight with a knife... That is reality...

Oh, and guess what, nobody... Our Supreme Court's Republican clowns say that we don't have a right to know who is attacking Obama with nightly lies... Fuck!!! The Magna Carta laid out a principle that man got to face his accusers but...

...fuck 900 years of legal principle...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:12 PM

"You should then find my last comment quite objective. Can you say as much??"

GUEST, I keep up on political news and I read BOTH sides of an issue. I get newsletters in my e-mail every morning from such sources as "Bob Livingston's Libert Alerts" (Conservative) and "AlterNet Headlines" (Liberal/Progressive) so I can read arguments from both sides of the issues. And these are only TWO of my sources of information. I also read widely. I am very familiar with the works of Ayn Rand and of George Lakoff. And one of my fields of study in college was ethics and political science.

Can YOU say as much??

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:21 PM

Right...

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:26 PM

Indeed, Ebbie... nobody is quite simply, nobody.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:41 PM

Nobody is also no-nothing...

All mouth and no brain...

Don Firth's farts are better informed than nobody...

Square business...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bugsy
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 10:41 PM

"GUEST,nobody in particular",
"Being from the U.K., I cannot find it within myself to commend the Republican Convention, nor denigrate it."

Being from Australia, I had an almost irresistable urge to vomit.

"THIS is what is needed, and to back off the 'emotional' levels of debate!" Give me a break!

As i mentioned in an earlier post, only Red Sovine could have pulled harder on the heartstrings of the punters watching than Mitt Romney,

And the members of the audience wiping tears from their eyes when they saw the cameras pointing at them? Come on! It was laughable.

Cheers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 12:05 AM

When the rallying cry of the convention--"WE BUILT IT!"--is based on fraudulent editing of an Obama Speech, and the vice-presidential candidate seems to avoid the truth as if it were about to bite him, It's hard for me to lower the bar for intellectual discourse to any noticeable degree.
And I actually enjoyed Mr Eastwood's little act.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 04:40 AM

Mr Nobody does not write like an Englishman. His words read more like an American trying to sound English. They appear to accede to Ayn Rand economics (if that is the word) and politics to an extent that is happily rare in the UK. They seek to conflate government and party resources in a way that is either fraudulent or staggeringly ignorant.

In short, I smell a troll, and one with a familiar agenda.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 01:52 PM

To my pedantic detractors,
If you want to repudiate what I've commented on, then just do so, but your weak assaults on me or my character, speaks to me, that you have no just cause or issue, or argument, other than the same nonsense that your political party is doing to the opposing political party! What a shame, to resort to these assaults, rather than putting forth a reasonable exchange of ideas. Now I'm beginning to wonder, if that is the case, because 'reason' requires a mental exercise, instead of a immature emotional attack.

And Mr. Bridge, You sound like a bit of an imperialist yourself!
You say you doubt if I'm from the U.K., and that I'm 'trying to sound like an Englishman'. Tsk tsk, Not all in the U.K. happen to be 'English', though England would wish differently. You obviously are English. You therefore are by probability, a product of the influence of the Bank of England, and just haven't realised all the damage done to your thinking!!
Get well soon, and have a healthy recovery!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 02:19 PM

"Short-sighted"

I don't need any kinda glasses to read your bullshit that I quoted above. I thought you were making a joke but if YOU believe your bullshit, yer full of it. As for commenting, debating, whatever, it's pretty hard to comment on something that you say you think will happen at some point in the future. That is simply inane, as are some of your "arguements"? "statements"? hypotheses?... really, WTF are such inane postings? Trolling?

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 02:56 PM

See? Just more of the same.
Are you trying to convince someone of a new policy or insight or just using the same old non-thinking posturing?

Perhaps learning a new trick may benefit your frozen mind that is suspended in animation.

Try it, you may feel entirely different and fresh. Maybe even a new revelation in life!!! It may cause you to walk out of the 'kingdom of completely boring', and into the 'land of something to say that contributes to the well-being of your fellow man'!!

Because you last post says absolutely nothing, contributes nothing, and is just another lap in walking around in circles while muttering nothing!!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,somebody in particular
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 03:11 PM

'nobody' in not in the UK. Unless he/she is using complex routing technology.
He seems to be in both Wisconsin and Colorado.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Don Firth
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 03:24 PM

I can't be absolutely sure, but I have a strong suspicion that somebody who seemed to drop from sight a short time ago is now back, under a slightly different handle.

The aroma is very similar.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: pdq
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 03:30 PM

Didn't GUEST,nobody in particular tell us he was a British musician who was on tour in the US?

Why are so many of the Mudcat "usual suspects" unwilling to even be civil to someone who has an original thought?

Insecurity?

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 03:36 PM

One thing, and I truly believe this....... the Republican campaign, ever so clumsily, leapt the proverbial Carolus Linnaeus, when Mr Eastwood spoke on behalf of the...bewildered !! I maintain it took a certain finesse to so throroughly, comminute the GOP locomotive......... not so any of the 'true believers' might notice.

and, I forsee an impending meme: 'talk to the chair' !!!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 03:36 PM

Confirmed.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 03:41 PM

Not even close. I am indeed from the U.K. but presently in the U.S., as I told you before. You seem slow in comprehension, or retention on what you read. For your information, I've been in both States you cited and more, Canada, Japan, South Africa and other places as well.

May I suggest to you to stop muttering and drooling, walking around in circles. Be mindful not to slip on your own spittle, and try a comment that contributes something of value.

Animosity is the step before violence, which is the last resort, of an non-resourceful person.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 04:41 PM

'May I suggest to you to stop muttering and drooling, walking around in circles. Be mindful not to slip on your own spittle, and try a comment that contributes something of value.'

May I be the first to apologise for the manners of a Brit abroad.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 04:59 PM

No need to apologize. We from "States you cited and more, Canada, Japan, South Africa and other places as well." understand.

Sorry, but I am kinda taking a wee solace in the troll twisting in the wind. I know I shouldn't but it's kinda (not really, of course) like the days of my youth when some asshole would fuck around at the tavern with his mouth and finally get beaten up and thrown out the door because he just wouldn't stop when warned.

In cyberspace, idiots seem to become emboldened... as if they can't get their asses kicked. Usually, that is what is, in the end, their downfall... they just make an ass of themselves over and over and more and more until they just can't be more pathetic and are completely ignored as totally useless and devoid of any substance or decorum or intelligence.

They just don't seem to understand that they make themselves assholes by their own writing... in writing... on the internut... forEVER.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:53 PM

"They just don't seem to understand that they make themselves assholes by their own writing... in writing... on the internut... forEVER."

I'm sure Penny would appreciate the irony contained therein.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:26 PM

"Nobody" isn't English but from somewhere else in the UK? I somehow think that is even less likely.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:34 PM

ake... who is Penny? Irony? If you mean me, I doubt it near as bad as you have done yourself over your posting career. After all, it's in the written record forever and only needs to be read by the reader. Take cheap shots all you want... anyone can read all of my posts and YOURS.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:55 PM

It's ironic that you can't think of a country in the U.K. that isn't Britain!
Exemplary of folks with bigger mouths than brains.

As a side note, I have mentioned constructive things that your Democratic Party could do to insure a better standing with American voters, and yet somehow it seems to incur the wrath of Democrats
Tempest in a teapot!

Some of you have an obsession with making sure all Democrats use the exact same nonsense when not taking constructive advice, and think it is a quality of your party!

I certainly hope for all your sakes, and the rest of the world's that you somehow evolve into something of a useful nature, instead of comforting each other with being able to recite mudworks on Mudcat!

It is useless and stupid, and unless the Democratic Party assumes a new tack, you will diminish your chances of winning your elections.

And, that IS a constructive suggestion. Don't make it less, jusr to fit your minds!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:57 PM

From Northern Ireland? I don't think so.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: pdq
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 08:00 PM

"...a country in the U.K. that isn't Britain!"

Let's see...Wales, Scotland, N.I....well, I guess Scotland!

Do you give cash prizes for correct answers?

I'll settle for Green Stamps.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 08:12 PM

Refresher for the UK and GB. The kid did a great job on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 08:20 PM

The more I think about C;lint Eastwood's speech/performance the more I think that it was the dumbest thing that I have even seen at a convention... What next??? Mud wrestling??? Bozo the Clown???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 08:56 PM

We will meet but we will miss him;
There will be one vacant chair...

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Don Firth
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 09:17 PM

From one of the Channel Islands, perhaps? The Isle of Dork?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 09:23 PM

100... which beats out the GOP collective IQ by several points...

B;~)