Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club

Subject: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Johnny J
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 05:36 AM

Wednesday 28th November 2012

One of English Folk music's greatest young hopes from a couple of years back(There have been so many of them but Ruth is a VERY good singer indeed) returns to performing after a self enforced break in which she embarked on studies for a "real job".
The lure of the music proved too much for her but we are delighted she's back on the road and coming to visit our little club.

"Ruth Notman is a young singer and songwriter from Nottingham. She started out on the live circuit at just 13 years old, performing at folk clubs and venues in and around Nottingham and Derby and soon began securing slots at leading Festivals.

Ruth was a finalist in the BBC Radio 2 Young Folk Awards 2007. Shortly afterwards she signed a record deal with Mrs Casey Records. She spent the next year writing songs, gigging around the country at festivals and folk clubs , as well as recording her debut album, Threads - an album which saw her collaborating with the likes of Hannah Edmonds, Saul Rose (Waterson:Carthy, Whapweasel) Roger Wilson (Wood:Wilson:Carthy), and Bella Hardy.

Threads was released in November 2007 and created quite a stir, receiving great reviews including 4 Star reviews in The Guardian and Mojo Magazine. Her second album 'The Life of Lily' appeared in October 2009, featuring a blend of traditional material, self-penned songs and well chosen covers.

Ruth was one of eight artists in the 'All Along The Wall' project in 2009/2010, inspired by life around Hadrian's Wall, both ancient and modern."

Her "Life of Lily" album is an absolute classic and one of my personal favourites from the last few years.

The Pleasance Cabaret Bar
60 The Pleasance
Edinburgh EH8 9TJ, Scotland

Doors 7:30pm; showtime 8pm

Tickets: £10 (non-members), £8 (concessions), £6 (members) at the door or email [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,Square The Circle
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 06:47 AM

Your in for an exceptional night, we had her at Newport last year, she was great, well worth turning out for.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,ian h
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 05:18 PM

Very disappointed. the girl looked a mess, her set was a mess and if it hadnt been for saul rose accompaniments would have been unbearable.
if she really wants to get back to making a living from music she will have to shape up.
i could have heard better and a more professional set in any pub

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,ian h
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 12:50 PM

for those out there who think this is only one opinion , please see review in glasgow herald 30/11/2012

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Johnny J
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 09:37 AM

Ian,

It is indeed a very generous gesture to highlight the fact that this gig did not fully live up to the high expectations which many of us may have had prior to Wednesday. Thanks for all your support.

Personally, I would like to wish Ruth well in whatever she chooses to do. I still regard her two studio albums to be excellent. They have been very well received in many quarters and, until now, I have not read any previous adverse reports on her live appearances.
I feel very sorry that the duo were unable, for whatever reason, to fully maximise on the opportunity offered to them on their first outing in Edinburgh but we should all move on....

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Elmore
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:41 AM

Sorry to hear this. I can't recall our folk club ever having that problem.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 02:52 PM

"the girl looked a mess"

maybe it was indeed a really bad gig - I couldn't possibly comment as I was several hundred miles away - but what the hell has what she looked like got to do with anything?

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,Collin S
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 11:49 AM

I was at this gig and I can't understand what you're talking about? If anything she did well and
held her own, considering the dud notes were coming from Saul's melodion. Also, I found the review for this gig to be remarkably harsh, a tad racist or at least anti English.

Here's a review from her solo gig a couple of days after this one.

http://tommygirard.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/ruth-notman-barley-dogs-tim-bishop-scan-81212.jpeg


Something doesn't add up here?

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 01:56 PM

Got a link to that Herald review?

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 20 Dec 12 - 06:20 AM

Jack - here's the review in the Herald:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/arts-ents/music/ruth-notman-edinburgh-folk-club.19542196

Collin S - Rob's reviews are occasionally 'harsh' as you say, but your assertion that his review of Ruth's gig was racist or anti-English is utter rubbish. I can think of at least one other of his reviews, again extremely harsh, which discussed only Scots performers. You really should think before posting such thoughtless nonsense.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,Evelyn McLoughlin
Date: 23 Dec 12 - 04:39 PM

I agree that Ruth Notman performed well at this gig. I worry too about the quality of this cynical sarcastic reviewer's reviews. Does he actually like folk music? See his review of Liza Carthy and Norma Waterson! This was a great concert but he actually commented on
Norma Waterson's disability! Even the other members of the Adams family would not consider such a topic relevant in musical content.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,Well wisher
Date: 11 Feb 13 - 07:08 AM

Ruth's new website is up and running.

http://ruthnotman.co.uk/

We should all wish her well for the future.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 14 - 03:13 PM

Glad to hear that Ruth is going from strength to strength recently! Some superb performances with exciting new material! Widely appreciated by true unbiased music lovers. Sing on, Ruth! We, true music lovers appreciate your music. Keep singing.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Apr 14 - 06:06 PM

many of us on the folk scene wish Ruth nothing but well. I was unaware of this controversy. there are a lot of loose ends to tie up when you embark on a career as a performer, and if you're not from a family with a long tradition of performing its a fearsome learning curve - and you're never completely flameproof whatever you do.

keep going Ruth -sooner or later all the pieces will fall into place. you certainly have the talent to achieve great things.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 14 - 08:43 PM

I'm not sure why this thread needed to be ressurected so long after the event.

Arguably, Saul and herself had a bit of an "off night" in Edinburgh but they are not the
first or last artists to experience such issues. I'm sure they were well aware of any flaws and will have learned lessons for the future.

However, I still enjoyed the gig and felt that the detractors were being quite unfair and overly harsh. As I said, her albums show she has great promise and I wish her well for the future. I'm sure she will have put all this behind her now and we should all move on too.

All the best from me, Ruth, if you read this.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 14 - 08:46 PM

Oops... resurrected.... :-)

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Johnny J
Date: 30 Apr 14 - 08:54 PM

Just realised I wasn't logged in. Last two posts were mine.....

As I said, I wish Ruth all the best for the future and look forward to hearing much more of her music.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 May 14 - 06:20 PM

I have not come across Ruth Notman, but reading some of the above comments,I feel sorry for her.Dick Miles

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,Evelyn MCLoughlin
Date: 08 Aug 15 - 05:33 PM

I have heard that Ruth has been recording again...in Edinburgh! This is an other opportunity for Rob Andrews to have a go! It is an opportunity to expand on his discriminational attitudes!

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Aug 15 - 06:07 PM

You might try to get the guy's name right.

From the samples I've seen on YouTube, I can't imagine what was going through EFC's collective mind when they offered her the gig.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST,Evelyn mcloughlin
Date: 08 Aug 15 - 07:08 PM

Saddow, Jack! Are you a sudonym?

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 08 Aug 15 - 07:50 PM

That's Jack's real name, not a PSEUDONYM. You are obviously a fan of Ruth, Evelyn, which is to be commended, but it might have been better to start a new thread in your praise of her, rather than resurrect this rather negative one. I wish her well.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Aug 15 - 09:54 PM

Dear Tattie, this was not a negative thread but merely a comment on a previou


Dear Tattie, this was merely a comment providing information and I certainly did not expect such a nasty comment from "Jack Partin". I am a fan of all folk music and do not agree with Mr R Adams reviews in general and find his comments, particularly those on Norma Waterson, offensive. Slan leat.

Subject: RE: Ruth Notman at Edinburgh Folk Club
From: Johnny J
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 07:42 PM

I don't always agree with Rob Adams but he certainly isn't anti English or discriminatory in any way. His reviews cover a wide range of artists and genres.He may be wrong, depending on one's own view, many a time but that's another matter.

Jack can be very outspoken sometimes but he's entitled to his point of view too. However, I'd like to state that EFC committee of which I'm no longer a member will take several aspects into consideration before booking an act. Certainly, they will not rely soley on You Tube videos which can not infrequently do an artist little justice.
At the time, Ruth had released two albums which had been very well received and was regarded to be a highly promising young performer on the English folk scene.

Again, I wish Ruth well in the future.