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BS: Coyote Problems?

kendall 05 Dec 12 - 12:10 PM
JohnInKansas 05 Dec 12 - 12:04 PM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 11:35 AM
Greg F. 05 Dec 12 - 11:18 AM
Bat Goddess 05 Dec 12 - 11:15 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 11:11 AM
Nigel Parsons 05 Dec 12 - 11:05 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 11:01 AM
Greg F. 05 Dec 12 - 10:57 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 10:46 AM
Greg F. 05 Dec 12 - 10:43 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 10:27 AM
Nigel Parsons 05 Dec 12 - 10:24 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 10:16 AM
Greg F. 05 Dec 12 - 10:05 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 09:50 AM
Rapparee 05 Dec 12 - 09:48 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 09:47 AM
MGM·Lion 05 Dec 12 - 09:28 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 09:28 AM
Becca72 05 Dec 12 - 09:22 AM
kendall 05 Dec 12 - 07:27 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 05:57 AM
Henry Krinkle 05 Dec 12 - 05:32 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: kendall
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 12:10 PM

We live in the country, plenty of woods out back, but I've only seen one Coyote. It appeared to be afraid of me, so I let it live.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 12:04 PM

We have a fair number of both deer and coyotes right in downtown Wichita, Kansas on occasion. 'Possums are just about everywhere in town, and I've been forced to "dispatch" one that aggressively attacked our dog a few years back. Raccons aren't too common in town but are seen occasionally. (I've seen more dense 'coon populations in downtown Philadelphia.)

Some time ago, we found a porcupine dozing in front of the door to the Courthouse in Boulder Colorado. (We assumed he(?) was waiting for them to open so he could file a complaint about a Krinkle.)

Skunks aren't much more common here (in town visibly) than Armadillos. The skunks are natives, but the Armadillos are immigrants from Texas mostly - hence somewhat unwanted.

Eagles nest nearby, and one pair nested on top of a downtown building for several years.

The most "objectionable" are perhaps the half dozen flocks (50+ per flock) of GEESE that local idiots have been feeding long enough that they've forgotten how to migrate as good geese should do. (That stuff is really sticky when you step on a fresh one, and some small ponds have suffered major algae blooms that kills the fish, from all the gooseshit.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:35 AM

They aren't supposed to get bigger than about 40 lbs. The one I saw in the woods looke big as a German Shepherd too. Scary.
=(:-( O)


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:18 AM

And you haven't been eaten yet, have you, Linn?


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:15 AM

We are quite literally in the middle of the woods -- 33 acres of trees and rock on a south slope in Nottingham, New Hampshuh.

There are a lot of coyotes around, but we've never had any problems with them. Raccoons, foxes or skunks are more likely to be rabid. Just stay away from sick acting animals. I started keeping our very savvy lady cat, Sabine, inside a few years ago after spotting a fisher cat (variety of martin) very close to the back quarterdeck.

Biggest coyote I ever saw was trotting down the sidewalk on Rte 33 in Portsmouth, which is a pretty decent-sized city. It wasn't very far from Borthwick Ave. where both the hospital and several large medical buildings are. There have been problems with coyotes harrassing people in those parking lots. I did a double take when I saw this guy -- he was HUGE. Size of a large German shepherd. My first thought was "wolf". And a bit of a shock to see it right alongside a busy highway in a mixed business and residential area.

Then again, all the black bear I see are right in the thick of civilization, too. I know we have them in our woods, but I've never seen them there.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:11 AM

I hope so. For the Red Wolf's sake.
=(:-( 0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:05 AM

Because of the huge coyote population,any reintroduction of the Red Wolf is hopeless, I think.

There is no real proof of that statement, it is pure supposition.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:01 AM

Because of the huge coyote population,any reintroduction of the Red Wolf is hopeless, I think.
=(:-( 0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:57 AM

yeah, but its YOUR blah, blah, blah, Crank-El.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:46 AM

Blablablah!
=(:-( 0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:43 AM

read your own article, Crank-El:

"In May 2011, an analysis of red wolf, Eastern wolf, gray wolf, and dog genomes revealed that the red wolf was 76-80 percent coyote and only 20-24 percent gray wolf, suggesting that the red wolf is actually much more coyote in origin than the Eastern wolf."


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:27 AM

I'll be fine with that. It's as good a way to go as any.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:24 AM

Henry:
I like it in the woods. I have as much right to be there as any damned wild animal.


Yep, you've got the same rights in the woods as any wild animal. That includes the right to be killed and eaten by another member of the food chain.
Your 'legal rights' don't mean much to animals!


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:16 AM

They aren't native here. They are replacing this nearly extinct animal.
Red Wolf


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:05 AM

If you're anywhere in North America. Crank-El, they're a native species. You're the invasive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:50 AM

They are considered an invasive non native species.
A pest. Few restrictions on hunting them.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:48 AM

If a wild animal acts in a manner very different from its normal pattern (e.g., a bat attacks you) it might very well be rabid and you would do well to try to capture or kill it (without damaging the brain) and deliver it to your local public health people.

However, if a coyote follows you it means that it thinks you might be or might become food. Or it could be in love with you or think you have dog biscuits in your pocket. On the other hand, if you're near its den you might be considered a threat to the babies and it WILL attack, just as a bear or even a mouse would.

If you go down in the woods today and you are worried about being attacked, pack a pistol and shoot INTO THE GROUND (not into the air, for what goes up must come down and it might come down on someone's head). Or carry a blank starter pistol. Or a very loud whistle. Or a portable marine boat horn.

If you ARE attacked (unlikely), do as Kendall said and go for the eyes. Use a stick as a spear. Fight back, but note: this does not apply to bears! I suggest you read up on the subject of animal attacks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:47 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:28 AM

I think that probably true, Becca. But how far can one reasonably extend that principle? Rats? Malarial mosquitoes? I ask not for contentious reasons, but genuinely to know where you, and maybe others, think such parameters should be set.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:28 AM

I like it in the woods. I have as much right to be there as any damned wild animal.
=(:-( 0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Becca72
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:22 AM

Keep your cats inside and stay outta the woods. Coyotes got just as much right to "be" as any of us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: kendall
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 07:27 AM

If you are attacked, go for its eyes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:57 AM

Supposedly they'll get in your watermelon patch.
Watermelon Thieves


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:32 AM

If two will attack and kill a poor woman, what about the children?
=(:-( o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:14 AM

Beep! Beep!


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 04:56 AM

I've been in the woods and been stalked by one. He had no fear. Stared at me.
I got out of there. He was about 20 feet away.
=(:-( o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 04:34 AM

Has it ever occurred to you, Henry, that the coyotes may have a problem with you?


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Subject: BS: Coyote Problems?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 03:06 AM

I understand they can become rabid. They're all over the place here. Got 2 of my cats. What do you do about them? I'm in town, so I can't run around with a rifle.
Scary Things!


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