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BS: Make up a law for 2013

GUEST,Guest from Sanity 08 Jan 13 - 08:52 AM
SPB-Cooperator 08 Jan 13 - 07:46 AM
Steve Shaw 07 Jan 13 - 07:02 PM
Bert 07 Jan 13 - 06:45 PM
GUEST,SPB at work 07 Jan 13 - 09:46 AM
Steve Shaw 07 Jan 13 - 07:54 AM
GUEST,SPB at work 07 Jan 13 - 07:21 AM
Steve Shaw 06 Jan 13 - 08:01 PM
GUEST,Big Al Whittle 06 Jan 13 - 02:02 PM
Ed T 05 Jan 13 - 04:37 PM
JennieG 05 Jan 13 - 04:36 PM
gnu 05 Jan 13 - 04:18 PM
Ed T 05 Jan 13 - 12:35 PM
Little Hawk 04 Jan 13 - 12:11 PM
Mrrzy 04 Jan 13 - 11:21 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Jan 13 - 08:32 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 04 Jan 13 - 08:16 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Jan 13 - 06:17 AM
Rog Peek 04 Jan 13 - 04:33 AM
GUEST,Eliza 04 Jan 13 - 04:10 AM
Steve Shaw 03 Jan 13 - 06:11 PM
Steve Shaw 03 Jan 13 - 06:02 PM
GUEST 03 Jan 13 - 03:46 PM
gnu 03 Jan 13 - 02:57 PM
GUEST,Eliza 03 Jan 13 - 02:41 PM
GUEST,olddude 03 Jan 13 - 02:29 PM
Bert 03 Jan 13 - 01:44 PM
Bill D 03 Jan 13 - 01:38 PM
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GUEST,Doug Chadwick 03 Jan 13 - 01:16 PM
Steve Shaw 03 Jan 13 - 12:18 PM
Bill D 03 Jan 13 - 10:57 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 08:52 AM

Little Hawk: "And the debt rises even more. And so do the interest charges.
That's what I call a sweet deal....for bankers. Certainly not for the rest of us."

The largest part of the fiscal crisis is from entitlements..True or False????

False....its from the compounded interest for the Fed reserve banksters, over the DECADES!

The Hawk is quite correct!
Now what do you think they intend to do with all that money?? Foreclose on America's freedoms and prosperity, to put THEIR system into place and use the 'government' to enforce it???....Gosh, wouldn't it take a lot of money, and America drowning in debt to pull that off??? ..I know, let's raise taxes more an make it sound noble!!!!

Speaking of 'debt forgiveness'....let's blow off the 'interest due'..46% of every dollar,...EVERY DOLLAR,....is eroded, because of the interest for the Fed printing bogus, fiat money!....(and THAT is the past conservative figure!!).......
.......and we can't afford to barely feed our own people!!!...in our 'land of plenty'!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 07:46 AM

obviously - the buck stops with the directors of TFL Ltd


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 07:02 PM

Why single out strikes? Why not for flu epidemics, accidents, bad weather, electrical faults, traffic jams, etc.? And who, pray, will pay out this "compensation"? Let me guess...


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Bert
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 06:45 PM

Executives who outsource jobs should be stripped of their citizenship and exiled to the country where the jobs went. If they shipped jobs to more than one country they should be cut up and the pieces sent to the respective countries.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,SPB at work
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 09:46 AM

Ok, change that to full mandatory compensation for loss of earnings, or additional transport costs for people on low pay who can't get to work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 07:54 AM

You mean a training scheme for scabs?


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,SPB at work
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 07:21 AM

For transport providers to employ and train sufficient sessional staff to provide full cover in the event of walk-outs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 08:01 PM

There should be a bloody law against the "in-crowd" applauding in the middle of a jazz piece just because some egocentric pillock has "just done a solo". Likewise, anyone caught applauding between movements of symphonies or concertos should be imprisoned without charge indefinitely. Likewise, after every symphony performance, the first person to shout "Bravo!" just to show that he knows that the bloody thing has ended and wants to get himself on the Radio Three recording so that he can tell his missus that "that was him" should be immediately arrested, have his toenails extracted one by one and never allowed near a concert hall ever again. I do thank you all for letting me unload.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 02:02 PM

Last Thursday I was sitting there in the out patients waiting room - all miserable - waiting for a biopsy on my tongue. Next to me is this old guy - reading a Kindle.

A nurse comes up and says the doctor is going to be late. Would you both like to go for a coffee in hospital cafe next door.

NO! IWOULD CERTAINLY NOT! That is SO typical of this place...

Have you had a drink and something to eat sir? said the nurse, we advise everyone to eat and drink before this procedure......

NO! I HAVEN'T! I'm NOT DRINKING JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY SO, or EATING ...! SO THERE!

Well its agood idea...


NO IT IS NOT! I DON'T EVER EAT BREAKFAST! NEVER! EVER! AND IT'S SO TYPICAL. WE'LL BE WAITING THREE HOURS AT LEAST FOR THIS IDIOT!! IF HE'S NOT HERE IN AN HOUR< I'M GONE!

Just then the Doctor walked in and got down to work. Ten minutes later I saw the old guy exit with a gag shoved in his mouth (supposedly to stop the blood).

I tell you all this cos i was contemplating a law saying we should all be nice to each other. But we would miss out on a lot of fun.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Jan 13 - 04:37 PM

"Put huge (and what seems to be, never ending threads about nothing) to mudbed."... or... ban people who don't like huge threads from opening them , or refute people who post about them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: JennieG
Date: 05 Jan 13 - 04:36 PM

The word "like" (unless used in the context of approval) is to be removed from the language. All languages. Starting right now.

For instance, to say "I like chocolate" is correct usage, but to say "well......like......chocolate, like, yeah, like........whoah......like......" is not.

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: gnu
Date: 05 Jan 13 - 04:18 PM

"Put huge (and what seems to be, never ending threads about nothing) to mudbed."... or... ban people who don't like huge threads from opening them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Jan 13 - 12:35 PM

No more multi-Mudcat Threads on USA internal politics (did I say boring?).

No more few-participant threads on the traditional "merry-go-round type topics.


Put huge (and what seems to be, never ending threads about nothing) to mudbed.

No more monkey business

:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 12:11 PM

"You also haven't quite thought out where we're going to get 25 trillion quid from."

Dead simple, Steve! Just do what the Federal Reserve does in the USA...create it out of thin air in the form of new debt owed TO the Federal Reserve by the rest of society!

This is what has been done as a standard routine by the Fed (and other major banks) for a long time now, and it's why a movie now costs $9.00 whereas it used to cost 25 cents in my mother's youth. The real value of a night out at the movies hasn't changed one iota in all these years, but the money supply has been inflated almost beyond comprehension, and the money itself has accordingly declined greatly in value, and continues to do so.

One difference though: All that magically created money that arrived "Presto!" in the ecomony when the banks created it by making loans didn't get distributed to the general public in the form of cash. Certainly not! It got distributed to the general public in the form of an ever-increasing national debt which they are expected to pay down through their taxes...and through inflation...while the moneylenders (banks) got rich on the interest charges.

And when the moneylenders' bubble bursts, as happens now and then, and there is a major recession or even possibly a depression to deal with, then they get bailed out with more public money, because they are considered "too big to be allowed to fail". And the debt rises even more. And so do the interest charges.

That's what I call a sweet deal....for bankers. Certainly not for the rest of us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 11:21 AM

Who was it that thought that people should only have the right to an EDUCATED opinion?


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 08:32 AM

You also haven't quite thought out where we're going to get 25 trillion quid from. However, giving families dosh isn't such a bad idea. It could have been done by giving families vouchers to spend instead of handing hundreds of billions over to banks in the form of quantitative easing (aka printing money). Unlike the banks, families would have ploughed the dough back into the economy and stimulated the growth we so badly need to get us out of the downward spiral.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 08:16 AM

A Law to give every family £1,000,000 in cash. It would solve the debt that many people have, it would boost the economy vastly, it would solve child poverty. People could live instead of existing. State benefits could cease, which would save a fortune. Those who wished to work could do so and those who did not could also have a choice. Now some would squander their newly found fortune and quickly end up back where they started I hear many of you shout. However with correct financial education this could possibly be avoided and if not we could always reintroduce the poor house. I've not thought through this bit yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 06:17 AM

I beg to differ. What is more beautiful and captivating than a naked pregnant tum! Nothing! What's there to hide! And I'd love to see what you so vividly describe happen in The Dorchester (though I'd be far more likely to be in the greasy spoon down the road meself, 'aving double egg and chips with a mug of Muriel's finest brew). As a fully-bearded chap I'm always puzzled about the pubes/armpit/leg hair taboo. I like it all and wouldn't have a law against any of it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Rog Peek
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 04:33 AM

Yes, a law against shop assistants and others who deal with the public calling anyone over 55 'dear', 'flower', 'darling', 'pet' etc. in the most patronising manner. Often in a tone of voice that they might use with their child or pet dog, as if those they are addressing don't know what day of the week it is. Example: "That's it dear, put your card in here". As if every chip & pin reader were identical and anyone who didn't know exactly were to place it without hesitation must be completely senile. I had occasion recently to attend an out-patients for physiotherapy and was dismayed to find that even health 'professionals' are doing it. Didn't seem to me to be a particularly professional way to be dealing with clients.

Rog


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 04:10 AM

Pregnant tums are fine, Steve, but not naked. And (maybe because I'm a female) pubes on view do nothing for me. Imagine afternoon tea in, say, the Dorchester, and the waitress arrives with her pierced navel and large belly unclothed. She leans over to put the scones on the table and her copious pubes nearly brush ones nose. Only in a comedy sketch, I think!


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 06:11 PM

Well, I for one wasn't entirely serious about bottoms; one can, after all, avert ones gaze. But a waitress's pubes in the face when trying to eat, that IS a grave matter!

Oh God, I dunno. I've always regarded the sight of a pregnant tum as a very beautiful thing, and it would never put me off me grub, not even the sight of a wisp of pube at the bottom end. As for bums, I really only draw the line at the sight of overweight plumber's crack. That can sometimes be not pretty. A well-formed feminine bum, though, can be a matter of great delight. Positively callipygian, in fact.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 06:02 PM

Steve... "Oi, what about the b*astards who can't park between the bloody lines in supermarket car parks?"

I parked in the second last spot next to the thru-way nect to the snowbank. There were at least 40 spaces available next to my truck. Asshole parked so I couldn't open my truck door all the way. Of course, here, you can't shoot his tires out so I... nevermind.


My point absolutely. I always park my car as far away as possible from the shop entrance, always in acres of spaces. I could be gone for no more than two minutes, but every bloody time some w*anker has parked right next to me, so close that I can't open my bloody door. Jesus. There ought to be some law or other all right. T*osspots!

And I dived into Morrisons petrol station last night, having discerned that there was no queueing and loads of free pumps (unusual). No sooner had I pulled up next to my chosen pump than a woman drove up and queued behind me. Bloody queued behind me, fer chrissake! She could have gone to any of about six other pumps, either side of her car, but no, she bloody chose to queue right behind me. I mean, what the hell is that all about! When I got back to my car after paying she was giving me a dirty look that said hurry up and drive off NOW you selfish b*astard. Still with loads of free pumps. There ought to be a law that says she should have been arrested and imprisoned without charge, dammit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 03:46 PM

Well, I for one wasn't entirely serious about bottoms; one can, after all, avert ones gaze. But a waitress's pubes in the face when trying to eat, that IS a grave matter!

Tsk count yer blessings,could of been worse.least it wasn't a gravy matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:57 PM

Steve... "Oi, what about the b*astards who can't park between the bloody lines in supermarket car parks?"

I parked in the second last spot next to the thru-way nect to the snowbank. There were at least 40 spaces available next to my truck. Asshole parked so I couldn't open my truck door all the way. Of course, here, you can't shoot his tires out so I... nevermind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:41 PM

Well, I for one wasn't entirely serious about bottoms; one can, after all, avert ones gaze. But a waitress's pubes in the face when trying to eat, that IS a grave matter!


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:29 PM

I teasing geeze


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Bert
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 01:44 PM

Nice one Kendall.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 01:38 PM

"Remarks about bottoms and burkas make a very serious comment ..."

Only in the right context. In this thread, the subject(s) were introduced in a light-hearted ironic manner. I do NOT see banning them as a serious comment by olddude... (if they WERE serious comments, I await clarification from him)


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: kendall
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 01:28 PM

A law to pay congress to work 5 days per week with no more than two weeks per year vacation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,Doug Chadwick
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 01:16 PM

*sigh*... Try to make a serious comment on the idea of 'needed' laws, and it is almost buried in cute remarks about bottoms or the lack therof.

Remarks about bottoms and burkas make a very serious comment on the undesirability of letting just anybody make up laws as they see fit. The same person who wants to ban low cut jeans also wants to ban the burka.

The position seems to be:
    Those more liberal than me are wrong; their actions should be banned.
    Those more conservative than me are wrong; their actions should be banned.

Laws that are not well thought out make bad laws. Bad laws are worse than no laws at all.


DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 12:18 PM

almost buried in cute remarks about bottoms

Misrepresentation there, Bill. It was remarks about cute bottoms.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:57 AM

I will not be drawn into that argument form any more. Comments on what I have NOT done will be ignored. Nor will I debate my decision to take this position.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:42 AM

BillD,

That is at least ( if not more ) specific as the comments you let pass without comment from those you disagree with, such as Bobert's claim of TEA party control of the Senate. Yet I notice complete silence on your comments when it comes to those who make the same logical errors to support what you want to have supported.

As for process transparency, THIS administration has made many promises, and not carried through on them- yet you have NEVER complained before this that it was a problem.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:33 AM

*sigh*... Try to make a serious comment on the idea of 'needed' laws, and it is almost buried in cute remarks about bottoms or the lack therof.

Yeah... I know... being serious ain't nearly so much fun.

----------------------

As to WHO added amendments, I don't care. I want the **process** to be transparent, no matter who. As to the specific allegations... there's several levels of someone's aide told someone else that 'someone' (The "White House" is not a person, anymore than a corporation is) wanted certain things.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:11 AM

I'd be chairman. There would be a new law making me chairman of the Decent Bottoms Assessment panel. We'd sit every full moon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: olddude
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:07 AM

dunno good question, I bet we get lots of mudcat volunteers however to sit on the judges panel


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 09:55 AM

We could make an exception for decent bottoms..."
The judge of decent would be who.
New law for 2013 :Every human has to spend one week a year in silence and be with whatever is in their head.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 09:17 AM

As to bottoms on show in aeroplanes, I think there should indeed be a code of decency in public.

We could make an exception for decent bottoms...


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 08:13 AM

BillD,

"Go read about what was added by the senate to the fiscal cliff bill!"



And WHO added it???



"The "fiscal cliff" legislation passed this week included $76 billion in special-interest tax credits for the likes of General Electric, Hollywood and even Captain Morgan. But these subsidies weren't the fruit of eleventh-hour lobbying conducted on the cliff's edge -- they were crafted back in August in a Senate committee, and they sat dormant until the White House reportedly insisted on them this week.

...
But there never was a fight. Baucus' bill sat ignored until last week, when the White House sat down with Senate Republicans to craft a deal averting the fiscal cliff.

A Republican Senate aide familiar with the cliff negotiations tells me the White House wanted permanent extensions of a whole slew of corporate tax credits. When Senate Republicans said no, "the White House insisted that the exact language" of the Baucus bill be included in the fiscal cliff deal. "They were absolutely insistent," another aide tells me. (The White House did not return requests for comment.)

Sure enough, Title II of the fiscal cliff legislation is nearly a word-for-word replication of the Family and Business Tax Cut Certainty Act of 2012.
"


http://washingtonexaminer.com/tim-carney-how-corporate-tax-credits-got-in-the-cliff-deal/article/2517397#.UOV7T6Ws38u


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 05:46 AM

In view of the problems with drunken youngsters vomiting, fighting and committing criminal damage until 2 or 3am every night of the week, and the ensuing cost of policing this, I think a new law is needed. It would ban any sale of alcohol after midnight, and all clubs and such establishments to be vacated by 1am. That is quite late enought for anybody to be out. These 'kids' should be working. If not, where do they get the money for all this antisocial partying?
As to bottoms on show in aeroplanes, I think there should indeed be a code of decency in public. No need for burkas. Just no bums on show, and no wobbly bellies hanging out, especially not pregnant ones. My friend and I were served in a cafe by a pregnant lassie with jeans down so low we had her pubes in our faces as we sat there. Not a good look IMO.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 05:35 AM

I would make it unlawful for any public appointee, police commissioner, quango board member ... to have ever been a formal member of a political party.   And obviously that all candidates in elections must be formal members of whatever party they stand for. People standing for Parliament as independents are a special case, and for these we should use a precise statistical rule to determine whether their voting record is significantly different to the other parties. If not, they are also excluded.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 10:49 PM

Not sure how to pass a 'law' on the internal workings of Congress... but *I* want NO MORE sneaky pork barrel amendments to bills! If you want to get $$$$ for a new swimming pool for your donor's neighborhood, MAKE IT A SEPARATE BILL!

Go read about what was added by the senate to the fiscal cliff bill!


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 10:01 PM

A law to abolish all NRA-sponsored laws that restrict research into the implications of the ownership and use of firearms. What are they afraid of? - the truth? I certainly would not want to see Obamacare overturned, but I'd like to see its "second amendment protections" abolished.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 09:36 PM

You can scrape off the crud with a credit card, but it takes a long time to get it all scraped off and collected, and then ya gotta dispose of it somehow. I usually stuff it all in an envelope and mail it off to some politician I don't like.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: frogprince
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 09:29 PM

And a set of ink cartridges for a printer can be priced at no more than 1/20th of the price of the printer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Ed T
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 08:50 PM

The price of any one replacement part must be priced significantly cheaper the purchase price of the entire item (examples include electric razor blades and cutting heads, and paint roller replacement rolls).


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 07:48 PM

Ok new law no crud picking out of harmonica's .... I will put that in the fine print also


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 07:38 PM

You've seen crud. It slowly collects in a thin, scummy layer on bathtubs and sinks. It's disgustin'! We gotta put an end to it once and for all by passin' a law against crud!

You ain't seen proper crud 'til you've picked it with a matchstick out of harmonica mouthpiece holes. Ought to be a bloody law against it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 07:36 PM

Oi, what about the b*astards who can't park between the bloody lines in supermarket car parks? Get the scumbags to Gitmo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Make up a law for 2013
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 07:23 PM

No daylight savings time. No passing on Astoria Bridge. I would rather people dress modestly and I do think there should be some limits, especially on younger people not of legal age.


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