BS: I Love Clams

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 10:11 AM

Back in 2011 my brother in law arrived(in Quebec) with a bucket of clams from Nova Scotia. It didn't take long for us to sit down and get to business. I know I posted this video on some other thread but in case some of you haven't seen it, here it is. One take and no editing.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 08:28 AM

Oysters for the libido?? Don't think so. I once ate a dozen, and only nine of 'em worked.

Clam chowdah? That red shit is SOOO WRONG, as mentioned earlier. G-d never meant it to be red. Of that, I am sure!

Oh, and...the "bearded clam?" No one?? Oh well.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 08:07 AM

""I believe that shellfish is now exposed to some form of bacteria killing light source, in the packing stage. Infra red, ultra violet, or some such. ""

I believe ozone is used to treat some marine molluscs, for light fecal coloform contamination - but, I do not believe it is effective for marine biotoxins.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 08:02 AM

That's a pretty classic kind of recipe Beer..........You need some great bread too for sopping, never crackers. It really was a leftover/junk seafood combo so often reflected local fishing. If you go with the one above you won't be too far off the mark!


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 04:41 AM

I believe that shellfish is now exposed to some form of bacteria killing light source, in the packing stage. Infra red, ultra violet, or some such.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 10:13 PM

I just went back to download the recipe and my mouth is just salivating.
I'd add one mother of a Gooeyduc as well. After removing the foreskin. Then chopped up of course.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 10:07 PM

Spaw,
does this come any where close to your recipe. I'll be honest in that i never heard of it but it all make sense.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 07:13 PM

Here lists the deaths from domoic acid in PEI musselsm in 1987:

4 deaths-1987

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 07:05 PM

Ed.
your link doesn't seem to be working.

I recall that incident somewhat. I think the problem occurred with the Malpeque Bay oysters. There was a death and i recall that we were somewhat worried because these were the beauties we were eating at the time.

Oops!, now your link is working.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 06:13 PM

gnu, A bit of info from a topic yesterday.

I did a bit of research on the net, and the Domoic Acid incident, where people were sick and there were at least one death (possibly in Quebec) was from commercially grown mussels from eastern PEI. It was 1987 and there have been no cases since, as testing has been put in place (they did not know the stuff existed locally before this occured).

So, you were correct, and my recollection was wrong (it was not oysters). However, they did put a quarintine on all shellfish -not just marine filter-feeders(commercial and wild, including clams and oysters) for some time after, while they figured it out.

However, the concern for mussels-first has little to do with the flushing associated with commercial mussels. It is because mussels (wild or farmed) filter these toxins present faster into their bodies than the other filter feeders. They are used as "first indicators" BTW, scallops are filter feeders, but the toxins do not accumulate in the muscle (the hinge-meat, which is eaten with scallops) just the organs, which we eat with most other filter feeders.

Check it out below:

PSP and Domoic Acid

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 06:05 PM

Cute! bobad!, OMG, scary it is. How in the heck did you find this. You always amaze me in your research.
I just finished spending the past hour visiting ARLO. What an American Treasure. Thanks Spaw. Much appreciated. I never met Arlo but did say hello to his daughter Sarah once.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 03:58 PM

Bed snake?

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: bobad
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 02:58 PM

It's kinda cute, isn't it? (the amphibian I mean)

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 02:55 PM

Bobad that thing is way curvier and way smilier than my equipment. Though sometimes I feel like my rod should be smiling like that!!

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 02:47 PM

It's related to the one-eyed trouser snake methinks.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: bobad
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 02:40 PM

Not a mollusc but a rare penis head amphibian recently discovered in Brazil.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 02:24 PM

Uncircumcised!

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 02:05 PM

Believe it or not, I didn't, there is a video on YouTube! I saw Arlo do it probably in '79 or maybe '78 when he was touring the small venues seating less than 75 or so. The joint I was in probably held less than 40. I saw him do it once on some PBS thing around that time too. It cracked me up but I never knew all the words til the 'Net.

BTW, if you read down a post or two on the video, you'll read about a possible reason for the song. Also, as I'm sure yo're aware it's based on Reuben Ramso. Anyway..............Hhhhhheeeerrrrreeee's ARLO!!!!



Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 02:05 PM

""If your question is "Does my penis look exactly like that?" The answer would be "No."

You are correct on that one . I just quickly checked.

(The girl in the supermarket check-out seemed to understand when I explained the reason I had my zipper pulled down, that I needed to check it out quickly to respond to a mudcat post)

;)

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 01:57 PM

Hmmmm Ed T.

Perhaps you can look at it in terms of its relative penis-ness. It looks more lake a penis than any other mollusc I can think of. More so than a snail or a squid or a scallop. The geoduck looks more phallic than any "phallic symbol" I can think of as well such as the Eiffel Tower, or the Washington Monument, or Some guitars..

So if your question is "Does my penis look exactly like that?" The answer would be "No."

But if your question is "Does that look more like my penis than most other things?" Then I would say a resounding "Yes!!"

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 01:34 PM

Where did you find that Spaw. What a hoot. Is it on one of Arlo's records?
The making of a great Japanese horror movie.
Lol.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 01:24 PM

Just in case you never heard Arlo tell the tale and then sing the Chantey, what follows is the tale of Reuben Clamso.............


Wanna hear something? You know that Indians never ate
clams. They didn't have linguini! And so what happened
was that clams was allowed to grow unmolested in the
coastal waters of America for millions of years. And
they got big, and I ain't talking about clams in
general, I'm talking about each clam! I mean each one
was a couple of million years old or older. So imagine
they could have got bigger than this whole room. And
when they get that big, God gives them little feet so
that they could walk around easier. And when they get
feet, they get dangerous. I'm talking about real
dangerous. I ain't talking about sitting under the
water waiting for you. I'm talking about coming after
you.

Imagine being on one of them boats coming over to
discover America, like Columbus or something, standing
there at night on watch, everyone else is either drunk
or asleep. And you're watching for America and the
boat's going up and down. And you don't like it anyhow.
But you gotta stand there and watch, for what. Only he
knows, and he ain't watching. You hear the waves
lapping against the side of the ship. The moon is
going behind the clouds. You hear the pitter patter of
little footprints on deck. IS THAT YOU KIDS? IT AIN'T.
MY GOD. IT'S THIS HUMUNGUS GIANT CLAM!

Imagine those little feet coming on deck. A clam twice
the size of the ship. Feet first. You're standing
there shivering with fear, you grab one of these. This
is a belaying pin. They used to have these stuck in
the holes all around the ship ..you probably didn't
know what this is for; you probably had an idea, but
you were wrong. They used to have these stuck in the
holes all along the sides of the ship. Everywhere.
You wouldn't know what this is for unless you was that
guy that night.

I mean, you'd grab this out of the hole, run on over
there, BAM BAM on them little feet! back into the
ocean would go a hurt, but not defeated, humungus
giant clam. Ready to strike again when opportunity
was better.

You know not even the coastal villages was safe from
them big clams. You know them big clams had an inland
range of about 15 miles. Think of that. I mean our
early pioneers and the settlers built little houses
all up and down the coast you know. A little inland
and stuff like that And they didn't have houses like
we got now, with bathrooms and stuff. They built little
privies out back. And late at night, maybe a kid would
have to go, and he'd go stomping out there in the
moonlight. And all they'd hear for miles around...
(loud clap/belch)....one less kid for America. One more
smiling, smurking, humungus giant clam.

So Americans built forts. Them forts. You know them
pictures of them forts with the wooden points all
around. You probably thought them points was for Indians.
But that's stupid! 'Cause Indians know about doors. But
clams didn't. Even if a clam knew about a door, so what?
A clam couldn't fit in a door. I mean, he'd come stomping
up to a fort at night, put them feet on them points, jump
back crying, tears coming out of them everywhere. But
Americans couldn't live in forts forever. You couldn't
just build one big fort around America. How would you go
to the beach?

So what they did was they formed groups of people. I mean
they had groups of people all up and down the coast form
these little alliances. Like up North it was call the
Clamshell Alliance. And farther down South is was called
the Catfish Alliance. They had these Alliances all up and
down the coast defending themselves against these
threatening monsters. These humungus giant clams. And
they'd go out there, if there was maybe fifteen of them,
they'd be singing songs in fifteen part harmony. And when
one part disappeared, that's how they knew where the clam
would be.

Which is why Americans only sing in four part harmony to
this very day. That proved to be too dangerous. See, what
they did was they'd be singing these songs called Clam
Chanties, and they'd have these big spears called clampoons.
And they'd be walking up and down the beach and the method
they eventually devised where they'd have this guy, the
most strongest heavy duty true blue American, courageous
type dude they could find and they'd have him out there
walking up and down the beach by himself with other chicken
dudes hiding behind the sand dunes somewhere.

He'd be singing the verses. They'd be singing the chorus.
And clams would hear 'em. And clams hate music. So clams
would come out of the water and they'd come after this one
guy. And all you'd see pretty soon was flying all over,
the sand flying UPANDOWNTHEBEACHMANMANCLAMCLAMMANMANCLAM
MANCLAMCLAMMANUPANDDOWNTHEBEACHGOINGTHISWAYANDTHATWAYUP
THEHILLSINTHEWATEROUTOFTHEWATERBEHINDTHETREESEVERYWHERE
Find more similar lyrics on http://mp3lyrics.com/pGAFINALLYTHEMANWOULD jump over a big sand dune, roll over
the side, the clam would come over the dune, fall in the
hole and fourteen guys would come out there and stab the
shit out of him with their clampoons.

That's the way it was. That was one way to deal with them.
The other way was to weld two clams together. l don't
believe it. I'm losing it. Hey. What can you do. Another
night shot to hell.

Hey, this was serious back then. This was very serious.
I mean these songs now are just piddley folk songs. But
back then these songs were controversial. These was
radical, almost revolutionary songs. Because times was
different and clams was a threat to America. That's right.
So we want to sing this song tonight about the one last...
You see what they did was there was one man, he was one
of these men, his name will always be remembered, his
name was Reuben Clamzo, and he was one of the last great
clam men there ever was. He stuck the last clam stab,
the last clampoon into the last clam that was ever seen
on this continent.

Knowing he would be out of work in an hour. He did it
anyway so that you and me could go to the beach in
relative safety. That's right. Made America safe for the
likes of you and me. And so we sing this song in his
memory. He went into whaling like most of them guys did.
And he got out of that when he died. You know, clams was
much more dangerous than whales. Clams can run in the
water, on the water or on the ground, and they are so big
sometimes that they can jump and they can spread their
kinda shells and kinda almost fly like one of them flying
squirrels.

You could be standing there thinking that your perfectly
safe and all of a sudden WHOP....That's ' true...And so
this is the song of this guy by the name of Reuben Clamzo,
and the song takes place right after he stabbed this clam
and the clam was, going through this kinda death dance
over on the side somewhere. The song starts there and he
goes into whaling and takes you through the I next...

I sing the part of the guy on the beach by himself. I go
like this: "Poor old Reuben Clamzo"
and you go "Clamzo Boys,
Clamzo". That's the part of the fourteen chicken dudes over
on the other side. That's what they used to sing. They'd be
calling these clams out of the water. Like taunting them,
making fun of them. Clams would get real mad and come out.

Here we go. I want you to sing it in case you ever have an
occasion to join such an Alliance. You know some of these
Alliances are still around. Still defending America against
things like them clams. If you ever wants to join one, now
you have some historic background. So you know where these
guys are coming from. It's not just some 60's movement or
something, these things go back a long time.

Notice the distinction you're going to have to make now
between the first and easy "Clamzo Boys Clamzo" and the
more complicated "Clamzo Me Boys Clamzo". Stay serious.
Folk songs are serious. That's what Pete Seeger told me.
"Arlo I only want to tell you one thing...folk songs are
serious". I said "right". Let's do it in C for Clam...
Iet's do it in B...for boy that's a big clam... Iet' s do
it in G for Gee, I hope that big clam don't see me. Let's
do it in F...for he sees me. Let's do it back in A...for A
clam is coming. Better get this song done quick. The Story
of Reuben Clamzo and His Strange Daughter in the Key of A.

1. Oh poor old Reuben Clamzo
(I) Clamzo boys Clamzo
Oh poor old Reuben Clamzo
(II) Clamzo me boys Clamzo

2. Oh, Reuben was no sailor
(Clamzo boys Clamzo) (Refrain I)
So they shipped him on a whaler
(Clamzo me boys Clamzo) (Refrain II)

3. Because he was no beauty (Ref. I)
He would not do his duty (Ref. II)

4. Because he was so dirty (Ref. I)
We gave him five and thirty (Ref. II)

5. Oh Reuben Clamzo's daughter (Ref. I)
She begged her dad for mercy (Ref. II)

6 She brang him wine and water (Ref. I)
And a bit more than she oughta (Ref. II)

7 Well he got his seaman's papers (Ref. I)
He's a terror to the whalers (Ref. II)

8.And he sails where 'er the whalefish blow (Ref I)
As the hardest bastard on the go (Ref. II)

9 Oh poor old Reuben Clamzo (Ref. I)
Oh poor old Reuben Clamzo (Ref. II)

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 01:09 PM

(it looked)..."somewhat penis like""

I don't recall that mine looked anything like that, JTS?

Maybe it was just a "personal penis moment", JTS? Or, the lighting was poor?

Anyway, I'll take a quick look and let you know if something has changed since the last quick look.:)

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 12:15 PM

Well said Jack. Lol.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 11:14 AM

" John MacKenzie - PM
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 10:59 AM

I thought the clams in the short piece of film linked earlier, looked obscene, and somewhat penis like. Especially after they started spoutin liquid ;)
As for the photo JtS linked, I thought it might have been a self portrait, and was so jealous :) "

I have been called a "dick" many times. But never so nicely! :-D

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 10:59 AM

I thought the clams in the short piece of film linked earlier, looked obscene, and somewhat penis like. Especially after they started spoutin liquid ;)
As for the photo JtS linked, I thought it might have been a self portrait, and was so jealous :)

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 10:53 AM

Clam-info

Soft shelled


Hard shelled

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 10:16 AM

In all things, ALWAYS GO TO MUDCAT FIRST!!! Nobody believes this but I keep trying to tell you, THERE IS NEVER ANYTHING NEW ON MUDCAT!!!

Geoducks are no different. Mentioned many times here, but probably first in this thread titled "Acres of Clams"......from 13 YEARS AGO!!! It starts with a different discussion but gets into the Geoducks with this post from the wonderful and sadly missed, Sandy Paton..

And for the record, I love shellfish.....any shellfish but scallops are at the top of my list. But I love clams in almost any configuration from steamed to soup to fried. Love mussells especially when cooked with recipe including garlic, shallots, tarragon, and a good white wine. Manhattan style clam chowder is a shameful waste of good clams. If I want a tomato based fish soup I make Cioppino.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 08:53 AM

Holy crow, that is being cheap Ed.

John, ever see anything that size before? Referring to the photo that JtS posted above.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 08:11 AM

Huey Louey and Gooey stew, anybody? (Hmmmm, should that be stewey?)

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 08:08 AM

Yes Beer, 10 Penny had high alcohol-somehow it won a lot of awards in Europe - but I never liked it. I once knew a cheap fella who used to take 6 of them to parties. He would drink other folks beer all night and take his 6 home, confident that no one would take one from the fridge.

Ho Gooey-duck clam stew - I like the sound of it.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 08:00 AM

Howard Johnson's uses Gooey-duck? I didn't know that Dick. I have heard that Howard Johnson's makes a good chowder but have never had the opportunity to taste it.
You could be right about 10 Penny Ed. No great loss. Never cared for beer greater that 5% alcohol. Ten penny was around 8% I think.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 04:37 AM

Looks like a lot of UK folks, don't reralise we have clams over here too ;)

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: number 6
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 12:20 AM

The best clams ( and I love clams) that I ever had was in Harwich Point Cape Cod ... wish I could remember the name of the place.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 11:23 PM

I had clam chowder for supper. Excellent!

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 10:43 PM

Not sure if ten penny is around any more Beer?

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Janie
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 10:41 PM

I believe the tomato based variety of clam chowder is commonly called "Manhattan Style" clam chowder, at least in the USA. The broth strikes me as very similar to the broths used in Mediterranean fish stews and soups - perhaps not quite as highly seasoned.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 10:32 PM

Yes the East coast soft shell can get you to cough, at first, but they are some good. Washed down with a case of Schooners, Keiths, Olands, Ten Penny, Moosehead,or even malt beer.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 10:27 PM

Beer-
If you've ever partaken of Howard Johnson's fried clams---they're geoducks.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 10:23 PM

Yes, Beer, the east coast soft shelled.
I am not sure if there are other varieties called soft shelled in the world-but will check it out.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 10:04 PM

What clams are you talking about Ed as being good? Soft shell are my favorite.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 09:55 PM

I tries tomato with clams-don't like it.
Clanms dipped in vinegar are nice, though.

Has anyone eaten raw softshelled clams. They make you cough.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 09:51 PM

I guess you never tried it eh Gnu? Tomato based is excellent with clams. Thanks Jane for mentioning it. I had forgotten.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 09:40 PM

"tomato-based"

You CANNOT be serious! Oh deahhh me. That is just WRONG!

ED! How dare you bring my dear Puff (with moisturizer, of course) into this. And BTW, if you need only "a Kleneex"??? one flimsy Kleenex??? you ain't got a grip.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Janie
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 09:23 PM

Clam chowder is the only way I imbibe clams, but I must say I love good clam chowder, be it cream/milk or tomato-based.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Joe_F
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 06:23 PM

Why doesn't the song say? That fellow was surrounded by acres of them; he must have known.

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Beer
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 05:54 PM

hahaha!!! that was good Ed.

There is one thing that is certain. You wouldn't be able to slurp one of these Gooeyduck down like a clam or oyster. I'd be curious to know if they taste anything close to a clam.
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Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 05:45 PM

No comment. The fuckin' Canadians are just plain different.

There was a blind hooker busted yesterday in Calgary. Ya gotta hand it to her!

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 05:40 PM

What happens between anyone and a Kleneex (or a playboty mag) is no business of anyone else on Mudcat!!!

Subject: RE: BS: I Love Clams
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 05:37 PM

Has not eating oysters helped your sex life gnu?)
(I mean with a partner)
LOL