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Subject: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 07:59 PM

I am in Atlantic Canada. We are UTC-4. But, I have to set my Windows 8 clock to UTC and not to my time zone to display the correct time. Huh???


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:04 PM

Count yourself lucky you're not in Newfoundland!


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:11 PM

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4193-time-zone-change-windows-8-a.html


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:17 PM

I know how to set the time zone, 9. When I set the clock to my time zone, my clock is 4 hours off. Therefore, to display my time, I gotta pick UTC. It's not *me*... it's Windows 8.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:22 PM

I know. JiK spoke about Windows 8 at length. These things are teething problems that Windows leaves its customers to figure out. G'luck.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:25 PM

WARNING! ROCK & ROLL ALERT : What Time Is It -Spin Doctors


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:29 PM

I've always thought of myself as one a them sophisticated European types anyway, right? May as well be on the same clock, eh?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:45 PM

You're fooked, my friend, FOOKED.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 08:48 PM

So, gnu, if you set the time zone to UTC-4, and then reset the clock - do you STILL have a problem?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 09:16 PM

THEN reset the clock? Oh-oh. I'll be right back.... maybe I am more rural than provincial?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 09:19 PM

Ahhhh... how do I reset the clock after I chose my time zone, Joe?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 09:56 PM

It isn't as easy to access the control panel as it should be, gnu - although you can tweak things so you have one-click access to anything you can fit on the taskbar.

Here's how to set the clock:

  1. Move your mouse to the upper or lower corner of your screen, and a menu will appear.
  2. Select "settings," and then "control panel."
  3. Select "clock" and then "set date and time"


That's it. I think the trick is to catch onto the general logic of Windows 8, and then things come reasonably easily. If a process is difficult, it's relatively easy to set up a shortcut if you think you'll need to do the process again.

One thing I'm wondering about - I thought I'd be able to access Help by pressing F1, but that doesn't seem to work. In fact, none of the "F" keys seem to do anything.

-Joe-

Well, I googled Windows 8 Keyboard Shortcuts, and came up with this:

    Press this To do this
    Windows logo key‌ +start typing Search your PC
    Ctrl+plus (+) or Ctrl+minus (-) Zoom in or out of a large number of items, like apps pinned to the Start screen
    Ctrl+scroll wheel Zoom in or out of a large number of items, like apps pinned to the Start screen
    Windows logo key‌ +C Open the charms
    Windows logo key‌ +F Open the Search charm to search files
    Windows logo key‌ +H Open the Share charm
    Windows logo key‌ +I Open the Settings charm
    Windows logo key‌ +J Switch the main app and snapped app
    Windows logo key‌ +K Open the Devices charm
    Windows logo key‌ +O Lock the screen orientation (portrait or landscape)
    Windows logo key‌ +Q Open the Search charm to search apps
    Windows logo key‌ +W Open the Search charm to search settings
    Windows logo key‌ +Z Show the commands available in the app
    Windows logo key‌ +spacebar Switch input language and keyboard layout
    Windows logo key‌ +Ctrl+spacebar Change to a previously selected input
    Windows logo key‌ +Tab Cycle through open apps (except desktop apps)
    Windows logo key‌ +Ctrl+Tab Cycle through open apps (except desktop apps) and snap them as they are cycled
    Windows logo key‌ +Shift+Tab Cycle through open apps (except desktop apps) in reverse order
    Windows logo key‌ +PgUp Move the Start screen and apps to the monitor on the left (Apps in the desktop won't change monitors)
    Windows logo key‌ +PgDown Move the Start screen and apps to the monitor on the right (apps in the desktop won't change monitors)
    Windows logo key‌ +Shift+period (.) Snaps an app to the left
    Windows logo key‌ +period (.) Snaps an app to the right
    You can find out more about the Start charm, the Search charm, and app commands so you can move around Windows 8 and Windows RT quickly.
Not as intuitive as I'd like, but it does work quickly once you start memorizing the keyboard shortcuts. How did they ever come up with the term "charms"?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 10:35 PM

How did they ever come up with the term "charms"?

Microsft has determined that you are too stupid to understand any real explanation of anything, and making references to "charms" allows all questions to be dismissed with

         "IT'S MAGIC, STUPID."

While I haven't looked at Win8, for Win7 almost any question you can enter in HELP search returns the first answer as:

"Would you like to go to our social network and see if someone else has an answer to your question?"

This is based on the experimentally proven probability that at their social network support site you will find so many people even more stupid than you are that it will make you feel good and you'll forget what your question was by the time you stop laughing at them.

It seems to be working for them, so I would expect these same principles have been carried over to Win8.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: Tootler
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 07:34 AM

Why do you think I gave up on Windows?

Well for one, I got sick and tired of being patronised and treated as if I were an 8 yr old and aunty Microsoft thinking they knew better than I what I wanted to do.

What time is it on Windows 8? Simples; time to abandon Windows.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: Chris Partington
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 07:49 AM

Charms? That's much too nice. I think of them as 'spells', and when I call up a program I 'invoke' it. Probably wouldn't catch on in the bible belt though :)


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 11:03 AM

The most useful short cut (IMHO) is Windows logo key‌ + D
Gives you a near 'normal' desktop. You can then 'pin' shortcut icons to the task bar at the bottom of the screen - saves a lot of time


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 03:23 PM

Not got a Win8 machine to hand so I can't give the exact control sequence - but the issue here is that the time server set as the default is broke.

I'll post again when I've got a Win8 machine (unless someone else posts first) but the solution is to set the Internet Time Server, accessible through the Time control panel or via the time in the system tray, and change it to any of the offered time servers EXCEPT the default one.

A right old cockup!


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 05:17 PM

Fer **** sake! Every now and the W8 chimes and my screen changes and I lose everything I have typed! No idea why. I'll try again with less detail...

Here's the logic... I ya want ADT (UTC-4), ya select "(UTC-12:00) International Date Line West" Simple, eh? I am willing to put up with the crap for 1/3 of the $ outlay.... so far.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: Bert
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 11:47 AM

I would do that Tootler, but I have an app that only works on Windows.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 02:25 PM

I think I have been told that there is an add-on that will give nearly a normal WinXP desktop for win 8 - and maybe if I am lucky restore normal "close program" and "shut-down" options. Those draggy things are a PAIN IN THE ARSE if you are on a laptop without a proper mouse.

Does anyone know where I can get it?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 02:32 PM

Google the following, Richard. (No quotation marks.)

how to make windows 8 look like win xp


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 05:55 PM

If the time setting is still a problem, the link by 999 at 02 Feb 13 - 08:11 PM gives you two separate places where you can change time and time zone settings in Win8. It is possible that you may need to make changes in BOTH of these places, since in some prior Windows versions you could choose a time zone the get the correct daylight savings changes to be applied, but you could set the clock to show an offset from the "correct" time for the time zone you selected.

In all operating systems, it has been noted for several years that setting one of the "primary time standards" as the clock your system should use to keep your local clock "right" could cause difficulties, since the primary standards (NBS for most of us in the US) have been overwhelmed by time check requests, and may be unavailable at some times or may block access by "non-priority" customers. Previous recent Win versions have offered a "Windows Default Server" that's a good option for your choice of maintenance service.

EVERY SERVER you connect to must have a clock and effectively serves as a "secondary time standard" that can be used to adjust the local clock on your computer. For EVERY CONNECTION the server clock must calculate a "correction" that's used so that the time on your computer can be matched with the time on the server. Very accurate "synchronising" of the two times is required for much of anything to work.

The correction factor does have a limited range, so your computer's clock must be "close enough" to the clock on a server for connections to be stable. Many ISP servers are consistently several minutes "off" Universal Standard Time. Phone services are generally worse. Due to the inaccuracies of the "secondary times standards" that actually control web communications, there's little reason to worry about whether your computer checks with a primary standard to keep your clock exactly right.

"Close enough" is anything within a few centuries (+/- ~1,700 years IIRC?).

On the more general subject of Win8, PC Advisor sent a report today that Win8 adoptions are lagging a little behind what Vista experienced at the same time after release, but the two are very similar for numbers actually deployed, as opposed to copies sold to OEMs "in case somebody might order them - eventually - maybe."

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 04:00 AM

I spent the day resolving problems on a Windows Vista computer, and I looked forward to getting home to my own computer with newly-installed Windows 8. So, I booted up and my keyboard didn't work, and Google Chrome crashed.

I finally got everything working, but maybe I should take back the nice things I said about Windows 8. I never had problems like that with Windows 7 or XP. Maybe the every-other-version-is-a-bomb rule still applies.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: What time is it on Windows 8?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 05:27 AM

Well Joe, Windows 7 was advertised with the catch phrase "It's NOT VISTA."

I have to predict from what I've seen/heard of it so far, before very long we'll be hearing "It's the REAL VISTA." or maybe "This is what we MEANT Vista to be."

John


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