BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 10:31 PM

Idiot.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 10:26 PM

The IRS is a subagency in the Treasury Department. There are several subagencies, or bureaus in Treasury--the mint, printing and engraving, others. The IRS is the bureau responsible for collecting taxes. It can be shut down as a bureau and Treasury can set up any new system it desires to monitor and collect taxes.

The IRS needs to be shitcanned. It has become abusive. For example, in northern California the IRS just added 2,000 additional agents to strongarm for Obamacare. The IRS has no business sticking its nose in your health insurance.

Abolish the IRS.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 10:19 PM

There is no reason that progressive taxing has to be complicated or involve loopholes. It only that way because wealthy people who don't like paying taxes have friends in high places..

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 10:02 PM

The IRS is the Treasury Department. Your genius idea is to elimiate the name? What is wrong with you? Are you the only person on earth more naive than the folks who voted for Ted Cruze?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 09:53 PM

The Treasury Department could monitor. Use the witholding method if you want, refund at the end of the year. Computers could crunch the numbers FAST. Penalty if you don't comply, jail time for problem cases.

John Kennedy drastically cut income tax and overall revenue from income tax went up. People comply with a fair system. Everyone knows you have to pay for certain conveniences.

A flat rate of say 10% on the upper and middle income brackets, tax breaks for the poor. Professional people would FLOOD to the U.S., too, to prosper under a fair tax system.

Progressive taxes have had their chance. They've failed. Too many thousands of pages of loopholes, armed SWAT teams collecting for the IRS, capital flight, etc. Scrap the old system.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 09:36 PM

How would earnings be monitored if they've got rid of all the people whose job to do the monitoring, as is suggested?

Getting rid of all the loopholes in tax systems obviously makes a lot of sense. But reforms on those lines have no reason to be linked to ideas like flat rates if tax. In fact it would probably be easier to combine them with a tax regime which was heavily progressive. Indeed with one involving a maximum income, and a wealth ceiling.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 09:07 PM

A flat tax. Your earnings would still be monitored. You would pay a set percentage at the end of the year. The poor would receive the usual considerations for lack of earnings.

This is the only fair system. No need for thousands of pages of tax code that only benefits the wealthy. No need for lengthy audits. You either paid your flat rate percentage, or you didn't.

Big government proponents will oppose this system while saying it's "Ayn Rand." Of course, the opposite is true. Big government people need their vats of blood money to finance the bureaucracy. They will do anything to protect the current abusive tax system.

A flat tax, postcard-sized tax form, it's the way to go. And with the current IRS scandal, the time for this idea may have finally come.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 08:00 PM

So they all put down made up figure and pay as little as they feel like paying? Actually for a lot of very rich people it wouldn't make much difference because that's what they do anyway. It'd just mean they didn't need ingenious accountants to work out the fiddles.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 07:38 PM

Ayn Rand = Ted Cruz = Mad Max After the Thunder Dome...

No thanks to that world... It looks too much like Somalia...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 07:22 PM

:ate for the cuckoo, no?

Subject: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 06:37 PM

Senator Ted Cruz - Abolish the IRS

"I think we ought to abolish the IRS and instead move to a simple flat tax where the average American can fill out taxes on postcard," he explained in a Fox News interview over the weekend. "Put down how much you earn, put down a deduction for charitable contributions, home mortgage and how much you owe. It ought to be a simple one-page postcard, and take the agents, the bureaucracy out of Washington and limit the power of government."