BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Jun 13 - 07:29 AM

That would posit the existence of real tea in the U.S. - wch is pretty difficult to find, unless imported from Britain.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jun 13 - 08:18 PM

Do people in the states ever have real tea parties, with cakes and gossip?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jun 13 - 05:23 PM

Spot on, Joe! Got it in one.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: GUEST,Guest from sanity
Date: 09 Jun 13 - 12:31 AM

I've purposely not been following this thread, because I think the move IS to abolish the IRS but for different reasons than I care to argue about.....but..that being said, I thought I'd take a moment to point something out, that really isn't 'cool' at all..in the least bit...

The civil rights struggle, was based on the principle, in our Constitution, that people should not be discriminated by RACE, CREED or COLOR...right?....CREED is right there with the other two.....and yet what is the difference of the tone of this statement, made by Greg: "But I do uunderstand - it's tough to be objective when you know that the whole world is out to getcha- most likely because you're Jewish."

Now that is rather hypocritical, being as it is tantamount to calling him a 'nigger'....but you replaced your RACE/COLOR discrimination, for his religion, or even Race(in a stretch)....I thought 'so-called liberals' were against that type of stuff, eh?

So knock it off....and I don't give a rat's ass's hemorrhoid about any stupid, fucking snide 'comeback', that you might attempt..OK?...Not only should you apologize, AND you should get your act together, as long as we ALL live on the same planet.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 11:56 PM

I worked for thirty years as a government investigator. We were taught to follow our common sense and our hunches, and explore where those led us. Nonprofit organizations that engage in partisan politics, cannot have tax-exempt status. If I were an IRS investigator, both my common sense and my hunches (and what I read in the newspaper) would tell me that organizations with the name "Tea Party" would be likely to be involved in partisan politics.

Now, if these "Tea Party" organizations want to be left alone, all they have to do is forfeit their tax-exempt status.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 11:35 AM

It seems the IRS was induced/told/instructed to check out tea party people

"Seems"??? By whom? This is just more unsubstantiated, fantasy TeaPublican bullshit.

No facts need apply.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 09:48 AM

It seems the IRS was induced/told/instructed to check out tea party people. Overkill I say. I'm sure the government's PRISM project and phone surveillance operations would have found what it wanted.

Hell, they were such good ideas that the UK government got involved and neglected to tell its citizens. It wouldn't surprise me to find that Canada has gleaned its share of info. Secret laws? What the hell kind of government passes secret laws, passes laws in secrecy?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 05:35 PM

Well, Elmore - perhaps we should also consider that he may not be ill at all.

There is also the possibility that, at bottom, he's just an obnoxious, foul-mouthed, ignorant, shit-stirring asshole.

I only offer this for consideration.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 10:58 AM

BB: I'm usually kidding around when I'm responding to your entries, and nobody can tell if you're 2 bricks short of a load in this setting. However, as one who has been helped by a caring, competent, practical physician, I think you should, at the very least, do some serious soul-searching. Chill.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 10:29 AM

Wow, Beardy, you DO have too much time on your hands, as well as some serious mental problems! Quite a catalog you were able to research & ressurect from two years ago. Guess I'm just not as anal retentive.

How long did it take you, by the way?

And YOU are the present representative of liberals on HOW many threads?

Say What? Now THAT assertion clearly demonstrates that you are suffering from some seriously delusional thinking - or completely out of touch with reality.

Consider getting help. Soon.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 08:24 AM

"Yassa, Massa Jack. Lem just shuffle to the back o tha bus, and stay in ma place"

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 08:19 AM

I reserve the right to give back whatever is thrown at me- and get the SAME consideration that is afforded others, or call out the bigots as such.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 07:56 AM

Greggie boy, it ws more than once- Shall I post more?



0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: Unpopular Views of Obama Administration - Oct 27 2010 2:03PM -   Greg F.
Summary: Democrats getting outspent? Not so fast So how many dozen different threads do you inted to post the same lies and bullshit to, Brucie? Mud Elves take Note

0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? - Apr 15 2010 6:26PM -   Greg F.
Summary: And you're posting this why, Brucie? Are we supposed to all jump to the conclusion that this was done by "THE FAR LEFT"? Jesus, Man, you've sunken to new lows (I'll admit, I didn't think it was possible)- your boy Rush would be proud of ya.

0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? - Apr 15 2010 6:26PM -   Greg F.
Summary: And you're posting this why, Brucie? Are we supposed to all jump to the conclusion that this was done by "THE FAR LEFT"? Jesus, Man, you've sunken to new lows (I'll admit, I didn't think it was possible)- your boy Rush would be proud of ya.

0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: The republicans (US) - Mar 11 2010 3:21PM -   Greg F.
Summary: Hey, Brucie: Lets review reality: 1. When Bush took office in 2001, he was handed a $236 billion budget surplus. 2.When he LEFT office, he handed the Obama admin a $1.3 trillion defecit, PLUS projected shortfalls of $8 trillion for the next decade. 3. The Bush admin added more debt in its eight years than ALL THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE U.S. COMBINED. 4. And in so doing, created the economic cesspool that the country now ...

0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: The republicans (US) - Mar 11 2010 3:21PM -   Greg F.
Summary: Hey, Brucie: Lets review reality: 1. When Bush took office in 2001, he was handed a $236 billion budget surplus. 2.When he LEFT office, he handed the Obama admin a $1.3 trillion defecit, PLUS projected shortfalls of $8 trillion for the next decade. 3. The Bush admin added more debt in its eight years than ALL THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE U.S. COMBINED. 4. And in so doing, created the economic cesspool that the country now ...

0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama - Mar 10 2010 12:09PM -   Greg F.
Summary: Care to justify the present attacks on those who do not agree with the president??? Jeezis, Brucie- take it up with Karl Rove, why dontcha?

0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama - Mar 10 2010 12:09PM -   Greg F.
Summary: Care to justify the present attacks on those who do not agree with the president??? Jeezis, Brucie- take it up with Karl Rove, why dontcha?







So, not only are you AGAIN , but you have shown you cannot even count, or know what you have posted in the past- If you don't like what you did, you just tell everyone you doid not do it.

And YOU are the present representative of liberals on HOW many threads????

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 10:17 PM

The U.S. government has proven it cannot operate within the confines of the law. Leave it no wiggle room on the application of the income tax. No tax loopholes, no favoritism to fatcat donors. Flat tax, all pay the same percentage. The surge in tax revenue coming from the wealthy would offset the reduction from the middle class. That would be "fair" to the majority. So what if George Soros has to pay taxes all of a sudden. Boo hoo hoo.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 10:03 PM

In an earlier post, I referenced Major Sydney Freedman. Should be Sidney with an I. Sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 09:27 PM

Surprise. Flat tax is equal, but flat tax is not fair. Read a book.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 06:58 PM

How the %$#$ can they pay less than zero, Elmore? Or perhaps Cruz means we should be subsidizing them to a larger extent.

Of course Cruz IS, and always has been, a moron - this is only one of his many cunning plans.....

The first sentence of that is germane to the topic of the thread. With a flat tax, the wealthy would be forced to pay income tax. No loopholes to hide in.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 05:36 PM

Ooops- sorry, BullhitBruce - Once, 2 years ago. Mea culpa. I promise never to do it again, Beardy.

You must have a great deal of time on your hands - when you might be doing something useful instead - to wade thru decades of posts in order to bring nugatory points to everyones' attention.

But I do uunderstand - it's tough to be objective when you know that the whole world is out to getcha- most likely because you're Jewish.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:53 PM

In the words of Major Sydney Freedman, "Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice. Take down your pants and slide on the ice."

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:51 PM

Attack my facts, and PROVIDE FACTUAL data, and we can debate. You may have information I have not seen.

Hate my opinion, then provide your own. You might have some view I am unaware of.

Attack ME, and I will attack right back. You prove you have no factual basis for debate, and have chosen ad hominem , and deserve whatever you get.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:45 PM

No, but do not ask me to be civil when you do not ask those abusing me to be so.

I reserve the right to give back whatever is thrown at me- and get the SAME consideration that is afforded others, or call out the bigots as such.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:42 PM

So, what do you say we all keep a civil tongue in our heads? ....... Nah!

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:33 PM

"Pretty soon we will have threads with signs on them saying "liberals ONLY" "

Why? When banning hyperbolic hysteria would accomplish the same thing?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:27 PM

From: Greg F. - PM
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 01:56 PM

See, Elmore, there's one of the cognitive problems I'm talking about I'm talking about; I'd have to check with Piaget to narrow it down.

I've never once called BullshitBruce "Brucie".



NEVER is a long time, even for a scumbag racsit liar like Greggie (F) Boy


Subject: RE: BS: Unpopular Views of Obama Administration
From: Greg F. - PM
Date: 27 Oct 10 - 02:03 PM

Democrats getting outspent? Not so fast

So how many dozen different threads do you inted to post the same lies and bullshit to, Brucie?






In any case, i reserve the right to respond to his use of Beardy/Beardie, and other derogatory changes to my posting name.


*I* amd not the one who states that "Black and a Democrat" is the same as "dumb Ni**er.:

GregF IS.

ANd has wide support here from fellow liberals and at least one Mudelf.


Pretty soon we will have threads with signs on them saying "liberals ONLY"

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:24 PM

Hell, BB called me a clever nitwit? What means that?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:19 PM

Its not the worst thing he has been called.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 01:56 PM

See, Elmore, there's one of the cognitive problems I'm talking about I'm talking about; I'd have to check with Piaget to narrow it down.

I've never once called BullshitBruce "Brucie".

Beardy, yes.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 01:54 PM

Wow!! Thread drift on this thread is the only sane course of action.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 01:24 PM

Oops. Sorry BB.(never thought I'd say that) Did I miss something? I was raised by elderly people calling me Greggie. Infuriated me.Is this thread drift?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 01:04 PM

Elmore,

Let Greggie F know that if he calls me "Brucie" I WILL call him Greggie.

Only fair, don't you think? Or are there two different rules around here, for those in the majority, and those in the minority?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 01:01 PM

Brucie: Never call anyone Greggie. It makes them cranky and unpleasant. Elmore (aka Greg D.).

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 01:01 PM

Don't worry, Greggie boy. You may reach two SOMEDAY.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 12:56 PM

RE: 6 Jun 13 - 12:50 PM

Q.E.D.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 12:53 PM

Greggie,

You jealous again because I am so far ahead of YOU????

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 12:51 PM

Not sure that Cruz is a moron. Definitely a demagogue though.

There's a pretty convincing case to be made for both, Elmore.

Best,

G.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 12:50 PM

Are you tired of being stirred???

Yo BB (i.e. BullshitBruce) Are you tired of behaving like a retarded two-year-old????

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 12:21 PM

Greg f. Not sure that Cruz is a moron. Definitely a demagogue though.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 12:15 PM

Hey Spaw,

"tinydonger is a fuckin' shit stirring moron."


Are you tired of being stirred????

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 11:58 AM

How the %$#$ can they pay less than zero, Elmore? Or perhaps Cruz means we should be subsidizing them to a larger extent.

Of course Cruz IS, and always has been, a moron - this is only one of his many cunning plans.....

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 11:33 AM

Flat tax so millionaires can pay less taxes. Cool.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 11:16 PM

Ted Cruz wants to abolish the IRS and go to a flat tax. Ron Paul wanted to abolish the IRS and eliminate the federal income tax. That's pretty extreme, but Cruz' idea seems reasonable. Just get rid of the criminal organization that terrorizes tax money out of the populace, and simplify the tax code.

Something you may not know about the income tax:

The Truth Comes Out: Former IRS Director Steve Miller Admits Taxes Are Voluntary

Steve Miller, former Director of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), admitted at a Congressional hearing that the taxes collected by the IRS are not mandatory – but voluntary.

When questioned at the House Ways and Means Committee (WMC) hearing last week, Miller told House Representative Devin Nunes that "America's tax system is 'voluntary'". When Nunes remarked for clarification that the US tax code is a "voluntary system", Miller said, "Agreed."

House Representative Xavier Becerra commented that the ruse of the IRS is kept as a public confidence in the system scheme to keep Americans paying money to the IRS.

Miller confirmed this is so.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 10:47 PM

You bloodsuckers need the federal money. I get it. You want the government to crush it out of the poor so you can continue to pretend you're liberals.

Abolish the IRS. Get rid of its tens of thousands of employees, its SWAT teams, its Obamacare new hires. Get rid of it.

Let Treasury set up a streamlined organization that's about a tenth the size. You wouldn't need legal experts to calculate ten percent--you either paid it or you didn't. Save the investigators for the cases that don't add up and check into those. If a crime was committed, punish.

This must make you big government proponents nervous, but you're about to lose it all anyway. The fiat dollar is dead. So are the other paper currencies. The big banks will play one currency off against another for a while, and then the carbon tax will be brought to you by the same people that stole your pensions and savings. And you'll sign on for it, because it's government approved.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 07:16 PM

I'm with Greg here. We all know tinydonger is a fuckin' shit stirring moron. I used to enjoy jackin' around with their dumb asses but with bearded brucie and tinydonger here it is just ridiculous. I don't think either of them have started anything like a legit thread in forever.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 06:46 PM

Just curious - why does anyone respond to ShitWringer's idiocy? Masochism? A spirit of inquiry to see how absolutely idiotic his subsequent comments may be?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Elmore
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 06:27 PM

When I lived in Massachusetts they sought to change the name Lynn (Lynn, Lynn , City of sin), to Ocean Park (Ocean Park, Ocean Park, don't go out after dark). Didn't help. Neither will changing the title, IRS.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: artbrooks
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 07:33 AM

Yes indeedy - lets abolish the IRS as an agency within the Department of the Treasury, and establish a new agency to monitor the tax collection process. What shall we call it? How about the Internal Revenue Service?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 01:07 AM

These straight-tax postcard returns seem just the thing. Then all the wage earners can send in their postcards and support their country like good, law-abiding citizens. Simple, straightforward, no loopholes.

What about those people who don't make their money by working for wages? You know, those wealthy folks who make money by investments and inheritances and owning businesses and gifts from Daddy and political contributions from Super PACs? What about them?

And if we abolish the IRS, who's going to keep those wealthy people honest and make sure they pay their fair share of taxes?

Oh.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 12:27 AM

Yeah, I saw that article.

Financial literacy among old people in the U.S. means belonging to a pension plan that supports Raytheon and Monsanto. Others have to die so that you can live. That's it. That's the system.

And the system is also about to collapse, it's so top-heavy with derivative debt. The Cyprus fiasco is about to happen across Europe and then the U.S. Your savings will be stolen, then your pensions.

Unless citizens begin taking action. A million Turks are protesting Goldman Sachs and the other big banks right now. The Turks know that their country has been taken over by multinational banks. And those banks will starve nations into obedience.

It's not too late for the U.S., but we need to change some things. Abolishing the IRS and restructuring the tax system that favors the wealthy would be a start.

I'd like to see "the greatest generation" take part in the restructuring. Give them a chance to redeem themselves for squandering their childrens' futures. Your descendants are now being crushed under student loan debt, and Obama's "plan" to fix the problem will save the average student loan debtor 25 cents per week.

How'd you oldtimers let things get to this point? And what are you going to do about it? Cruz has a plan. What's yours?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 12:07 AM

Songwronger is a Young American?

Illiterate idiocy doesn't deserve any more comment now than the 300 other times threads on the same subject have been started.

Just another stupid FLAME.

John

Subject: RE: BS: U.S. Senator - Abolish the IRS
From: Songwronger
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 10:41 PM

I bet you rely on the abusive tax system for your income. It always comes down to pocketbooks. People vote to keep their paychecks coming. Problem is, too many paychecks now come from the federal government. A change in the income stream must be a frightening thought for government dependents. But a flat rate need not result in a diminishment of that stream.

At any rate, the IRS needs to go. Their methods are reminiscent of old King George's. Abusive, lawless.