BS: Bury the Ashes?

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 03:07 AM

You're right of course, Kevin, but it's not limited to England cricket - at times, they all take whatever advantage they can, and you can be certain that, given the opportunity, the Aussies would do the same.

It's not cricket, but it is human nature!

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 05:46 PM

I see the grand old English tradition of cheating when playing Australia has been revived in the current match. Michael Clarke's choice to take advantage of an umpire's mistake when he knew he'd been caught out isn't quite in the same league as the introduction of bodyline bowling back in 1932, since it didn't involve risking killing anyone, but in the old expression, it defintely wasn't cricket.

I rather assume it will backfire badly.

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: GUEST,Musket waving
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 03:46 AM

The stand to the right (left looking at the telly I suppose) of Trent Bridge Inn. 3/4 of the way up, in the middle.

Could only get the one day, up to me nuts with meetings today.

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 03:28 AM

Cricket is a game of two sides, one side is in, and the other side is out.
The side that is out, tries to get the side that is in out. When the side that was out is now in, the side that was in but now out, tries to get the side that was out but is now in out. Understood?

BTW, what a great knock from 19 year old Ashton Agar on debut. 98.

Musket between courses - looked for you in the crowd on telly, but must have missed you.!

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 09:21 PM

JK Rowland has Quidditch as being relatively unpopular among American wizards, as being too complicated and lasting too long. She has them preferring a modified game called Quodpot involving an exploding Quaffle...

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 06:43 PM

...as I go onto say in the above (limited gobbledegook) poem, limited-over cricket is a far better game, because the bowler does get rewarded for beating the bat altogether, in that one of the batting side's limited deliveries has been used up, without any addition to their tally - provided the wicket keeper is on the ball, i.e.

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: GUEST,Jack Sprocket
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 04:48 PM

Words All Vacuous has probably never watched a game of cricket. Penalise "air shots"? How? Why? The purpose of the bowler is to knock the bails off, or trap the batsman into HITTING the ball into the air for a catch, or defending his wicket illegally with his legs, or being out of his ground when the bails are removed. The purpose of the batsman is to make runs, either by running between the wickets or by making the ball reaching the boundary. Hitting the ball is incidental to this; he does it (if necessary) to prevent the ball hitting the wicket, or to get the ball either to the boundary or far enough from a fielder that he (and his partner) can run between the wickets before it is returned.

The art of the bowler is to force the batsman to hit the ball where he doesn't want to, or to fool him into thinking it will miss his wicket when it's on target; the art of the batsman is to anticipate the bowler's guile and to use it to get runs (which incidentally is why Boycott... oh, never mind).

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 04:35 PM

Spaw, you're showing your complete ignorance of the game, and you're starting to make yourself look stupid. I'd suggest you button it up before you make a complete cock of yourself.

You don't - perhaps can't - understand cricket because it's a far more complex game than the comparatively simple baseball, its not just swipe and hope and, by your own admission, you have a short attention span. Your loss, but FFS stop attacking cricket just because you're not mentally equipped to understand or appreciate it.

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 04:07 PM

It just isn't used in Cricket though and has been atrophied by games that never end. One game is as long as the entire MLB season.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 03:45 PM

He got it wrong. Cricket is baseball with a brain.

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 02:51 PM

LMAO....I love it.......But I agree with Robin Williams. Cricket is baseball on Valium.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: GUEST,Musket between courses
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 01:38 PM

Eyup Backwoodsman, they don't like it up em you know. .. Years ago Channel 5, having got a contract to show American baseball (dropped it when viewing figures were piss poor) ran billboard adverts of a baseball player with the caption The Future of Cricket. Nice to see them with egg on their face.

Had the day off today and been at Trent Bridge.

Can't get over excited about limited over stuff. That is a better comparison to baseball. Come out and whack the bloody ball. No opportunity to get line and length, no judicious use of the night watch man. .... Mind you, still better than rounders.

Long ish drive back to The Isle, worth it though.

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 01:25 PM

And that bullshit comes from a native of a country whose national game consists of someone hurling a ball at someone else, who swipes at it with a cudgel and almost always misses, gets two swipes and tries to run in a circle, usually failing miserably. It's boring crap. No wonder the spectators spend most of the game fetching beer and plates of food - it's more exciting than what's going on ( or more likely not going on) on the field.

Baseball - the game where nothing happens for hours on end. In the UK, it's called 'rounders' and its played by schoolgirls.

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 12:06 PM

I thought the ashes were cremated Cricket fans. How the hell anyone even remotely alive and breathing can stare for weeks on end (it seems) at a Cricket game is more than I can comprehend. I think they die and no none notices........

Boring and incomprehensible at the absolute best and a possible cause murder by boredom at the worst is the only to describe Cricket..............also Wavy's alleged poetry.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 10:42 AM

"...the body will be cremated and the ashes taken to Australia"

What good is transportation if you can't get any work out of 'em afterwards?

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 10:05 AM

It is, Rapparee -

The series is named after a satirical obituary published in The Sporting Times in 1882 following the match at The Oval, in which Australia beat England in England for the first time. The obituary stated that English cricket had died, and the body will be cremated and the ashes taken to Australia.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 09:55 AM

I thought this was about a cremation.

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 08:53 AM

...an airswing, a swing-and-a-miss, where those in the slips may, sarcastically, say "well left, sir"...not sure what they'd say to Spaw..?

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 08:48 AM

Dunno' Ralphie, but I'm hoping this doesn't trigger another rash of posting the delusional and repetitive crap from the King of Bad Poetry and Bigoted Bullshit.......***sigh***............


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 08:38 AM

WAV.....What on earth are you talking about? Air Swing? What on earth is that? (Must be an Australian reference....Oh I forgot)

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: dbranno
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 08:38 AM

There was an ancient cricketer
He stoppeth one of three
The others go through to the 'keeper
Or strike him on the knee

Under the influence of bash-and-crash short forms, the longer game of Test Cricket may be doomed.
The current crop of sportstars and sportsfiends have not the required concentration methinks.
A twagedy old boy, what? The game of empire...

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 08:02 AM

...if an airswing was punished with dismissal, it would certainly speed things up...strike-one and your out..?

Subject: RE: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 07:56 AM

Philistine.

Subject: BS: Bury the Ashes?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 07:39 AM

Re the ‪‎Ashes‬, my argument as to why test ‪cricket‬ (unlike limited-over cricket) is one of the worst sports in the world: an airswing is worse than an edge but, in test cricket, only the latter may be punished; or, in verse, my poem "Dot-Ball" - http://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/walkaboutsverse-165-of-230.html