BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 05:42 AM

The only place I've ever been where taking firearms into a bar was even conceived of as something that might happen was in Trabzon, north-east Turkey, after the collapse of the Soviet union. The booming local prostitution business was run by ex-Soviets (the Turkish word for a prostitute is "Natasha") and one the bars had a big sign over the door saying in Turkish NO ENTRY WHEN CARRYING FIREARMS (and probably the same thing in Russian) which had to be aimed at Georgian and Russian gangsters. It struck me as so bizarre I had to take a photo of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:53 AM

'If the USA is to progress out of the stone age it must find a way to restrict the power of states governed by idiots!'

So the other four states will be fine then?

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:25 PM

What seems the ultimate stupidity is to allow individual states to concoct different laws instead of having a country wide law that would apply to all! If the USA is to progress out of the stone age it must find a way to restrict the power of states governed by idiots!

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:14 PM

"
I play music in several of these bars... Makes me wonder if I want to do that anymore???
"

Don't wear a hoodie or carry skittles while you play an you'll be OK.

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:08 PM

(e) has not been convicted of an offense involving moral turpitude;

So it's okay to have been convicted of an offense involving immoral turpitude?

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 08:08 PM

I play music in several of these bars... Makes me wonder if I want to do that anymore???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 05:05 PM

Can't we saw them loose from the rest of the continent and set 'em adrift?

(Shoulda let 'em secede when they wanted to.)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 03:40 PM

Hey, look on the bright side - maybe those North Carolina gun-slinging assholes will kill each other off?

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 02:15 PM

Some of the state regulations are involved in court actions.
New Mexico barred U. S. resident aliens from carrying guns in the state, but the U. S. District Court of New Mexico struck down the prohibition. March 30, 2013.

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: pdq
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 01:26 PM

WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR A UTAH CONCEALED FIREARM PERMIT?

Minimum requirements for a Utah Concealed Firearm Permit. Applicants must be 21 years of age (at the time the application is submitted, you can take the class prior to 21 and hold the application for up to one year) and proof the applicant is of good character. As cited in Utah Criminal Code §53-5-704(2), an applicant demonstrates good character if he/she:
(a) has not been convicted of a felony;
(b) has not been convicted of a crime of violence
(c) has not been convicted of an offense involving the use of alcohol;
(d) has not been convicted of an offense involving the use of narcotics or other controlled substances;
(e) has not been convicted of an offense involving moral turpitude;
(f) has not been convicted of an offense involving domestic violence;
(g) has not been adjudicated by a court of a state or of the United States as mentally incompetent, unless the adjudication has been withdrawn or reversed: and
(h) is qualified to purchase and possess a dangerous weapon and a handgun pursuant to Section 76-10-503 and federal law.
(i) within the last ten years, has not been adjudicated delinquent for an offense which if committed by an adult would have been a violent felony. (Juvenile offenses)
(j) within the last seven years, has not been adjudicated delinquent for an offense which if committed by an adult would have been a felony. (Juvenile offenses)

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: olddude
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 12:54 PM

Many states including all of those states I am licensed for (26) allow for concealed carry in a bar ... In NY the sheriff asks that you don't but it is legal. Now noone I know would carry a weapon into a bar .. ya just don't do it and it should be a law that you are not allowed to... again federal regs could fix this.

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 12:35 PM

Adding to above list, Utah is the sole "no carry" state.

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 12:32 PM

States with no restrictions on concealed guns:
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Montana (outside of city limits)
Idaho (rural areas)
New Mexico (unloaded)
Vermont
Wyoming (residents only)


Permit required (shall issue to all qualified applicants)
41 states

In essence, only the District of Columbia and American Samoa have no provision for citizen carry.


From Wiki

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 12:29 PM

Gonzo TeaPublican fascist assholes have succeeded in taking NC back 150 years.

They've, among other things, gutted public education, health care, voting rights, and most recently unemployment insurance - in a state with the 5th highest unemployment in the nation - reducing both the benefit AND the number of weeks the unemployed can collect. This last genius move makes them ineligible for $700 million per year in Federal aid for the unemployed.

Bobert, get the hell out of the ShitHole State while you can, buddy.

See also: www.ncjustice.org

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 12:11 PM

'Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...'

Ain't the stupidest thing I ever heard, but it sure runs a close second.

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:51 AM

North Carolina has some of the best music.... to distract liberals from the LONG list of whacko bills they are pushing thru this week.

Guns, abortion restrictions, state religion...etc... and voter ID laws to make sure no one can counter the other stupid laws.

Heck.. one would think it was Texas!

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 10:32 AM

Even in the cities and towns of Ye Wilde Weste most had laws that you had to check your guns in town, and you certainly couldn't carry 'em in a saloon no matter what the movies show. If you did you were liable to be arrested or worse.

Guess we don't learn from the Past very well, do we?

Subject: RE: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 10:19 AM

Hey Bobert, don't you know that in NC bars nothing stronger than a Shirley Temple is ever served?

At least that's what I read on the Net.

Subject: BS: Concealed Guns Okay'd in NC Bars...
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 08:53 AM

Just unbelievable...

Here in North Carolina the Republicans have captured both the statehouse and the governor's mansion and, boy, are they cramming ever wacko right winged wish down our throats...

Everything on the ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Committee) menu of right wing stuff has been gobbled up by these people and signed into law (tax breaks for the rich, more regressive taxes for the working class, shut down abortion clinics, rig elections with hard-to-get voter IDs, cut money for education, etc...)

Now they are have turned their attention to the NRA's wish list so...

... guns now okay at colleges, guns okay in playgrounds and parks and...

...guns okay in bars!!!

WTF???

Oh, they say that you can't carry your gun into a bar if you plan on consuming alcohol??? Well, what the heck you going into the bar for, NC Republicans??? This is the most moronic legislation to date from these creeps and makes the rest of their moronic legislation look lame in comparison...

B~