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FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo

GUEST,bbc 14 Jan 14 - 06:58 PM
Bill D 14 Jan 14 - 10:53 PM
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Allan C. 15 Jan 14 - 09:05 PM
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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: GUEST,bbc
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 06:58 PM

Delightful, maeve! Thanks so much!

Barbara


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 10:53 PM

*I* think #18 looks like Nancy-Jean Seigel, but Rita doesn't. I'm not sure Nancy-Jean was there that year, but she was certainly known to us and knew us then.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: Nancy King
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 12:07 PM

Sorry -- #3 isn't me! Don't know who it is!


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: voyager
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 03:27 PM

If a good picture is worth 1000 words, then we're on the way with this FSGW99-Mudcat group photo. So here's a little better resolution -

FSGW99-Mudcat at Prince William Forest Park (hi-res)

Besides Sandy's workshop/sing of 'The Fox' my other highlights that trip were meeting Fortunato (not in photo) and stumbling across a CIA/OSS historical marker on the grounds. Here's that sidebar -

Prince William Forest Park

From 1942 to 1945, at least two branches of the OSS trained on the grounds of Prince William Forest Park—Special Operations (Training Area A) and Communications (Training Area C).

In the security that the forest offered, the Special Operations Branch trained its advanced recruits how to operate behind enemy lines in sabotage, guerilla leadership and other forms of subversion.6 New recruits were tasked with concealing their own identity while trying to learn as much information as possible from fellow trainees. Recruits also were:

    Taught how to use weapons, radios and codes;
    Make and disarm booby traps; and
    Make low-level parachute jumps from aircraft.7

The OSS Communications Branch also trained its recruits in Prince William Forest Park. Recruits in this division learned Morse code and ciphers, covert radio practices and maintenance, as well as the use of weapons and martial arts.

I guess they should have include Folk Music Hootenanny's in their regimen :^D

voyager


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: Allan C.
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 09:05 PM

It just now dawned on me that #3 Blank must be Dani! I sent her a note seeking confirmation.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 09:57 PM

Not Dani.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 10:06 PM

Of course, my track record isn't great. I don't even think I look like me in that photo.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 06:46 AM

Nope, not me. But happy to be mistaken for Nancy King : )

Dani


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: maeve
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 07:28 AM

I think Bill is onto something for #18. Take a look here, Bill: Back row, ninth from the left.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 07:57 PM

Yep... looks like her. I have several pics of her that are not online. I don't know if there are still records of who attended that year, but the B&W pic just made me wonder.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: maeve
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 08:07 PM

Thanks, Bill. I've marked #18 as Nancy-Jean Seigel on my copy.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jan 19 - 04:11 AM

BBC asked if we might be able to identify the people in this photo. I see above that this has mostly been accomplished. Any additional comments or information?


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway99 - Group Photo (Sandy P.)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jan 19 - 04:19 AM

Here is an enlarged version of the photo with labels that Maeve made:


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jan 19 - 04:04 PM

Gee, we all look so much younger in this photo....but hey, it was 19 years ago. I can't find Dani in the photo. Where was she? Is that her in the back row, second from the left - #3?


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 10:33 AM

Now I am not sure that IS me in the back row... I may have had someone else take a pic after I did. But Rita & I both are not sure that guy with beard to rt of Bob Clayton is me.. I seldom let my beard grow past muttonchops..


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 02:51 PM

Yeah, I sure wouldn't bet good money on #15 being you, Bill.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 09:43 PM

Bill I saw you before all the name were added.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: bbc
Date: 12 Jan 19 - 06:21 PM

Thanks for reviving this, Joe. I had forgotten we had already gone through the naming exercise. Allan & maeve did a nice job. Nice to see it again & remember that happy time. Really hard to believe it's almost 20 years ago!

best,

bbc


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Helen
Date: 21 Mar 19 - 03:02 PM

Refreshed in relation to Caroline Paton obit thread.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Helen
Date: 21 Mar 19 - 03:10 PM

I remember now. Joe Offer looks like Steve Martin.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 03:07 PM

Voyager sent me a color photo of the group of Mudcatters at the Getaway in 1999. Let's see how it turned out.

Click to display (joeweb)


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: voyager
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 03:26 PM

Looks good to me .... a segue to the 'Parting Songs' farewell this year.

Thanks for posting.
voyager


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 07:39 PM

Joe, can you reduce the size of the image as it displays? It's stretched too much and the features aren't clear.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 09:01 PM

Photoshopped version from SRS:

Click to display (joeweb)


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:48 PM

If you want to call it photoshopped then I should have applied a filter to clear it up a bit more. It's a really small photo. If the original sender can send me as large a copy as he has, I'll see what I can do with it.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 05:21 PM

It wasn't photoshopped. You just fucked with it. When I first saw it (years ago, before Joe posted it), I thought it had problems. It had too few pixels. I definitely don't think I look like me.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 05:37 PM

I just constrained it to a smaller area to make the pixels work a little better.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 06:11 PM

There is no way to make that look better - without major major filter work. I pushed it way down, to 400x228px. I'll send that to Joe.

Click to display (joeweb)


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 06:35 PM

I think a lot of photos back when this one was posted, had to be smaller in size to put on line or to mail. I know I had to sacrifice quality to be able to send stuff with my dial-up modem, and an e-mail program that limited file size. Whoever took it may have the original, but otherwise, this is as good as it gets. Thanks for trying.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 01:04 AM

I got my first digital camera in 2004. The pictures it produces were more-or-less equivalent to 4 x 6 film photographs, or to what I could get from scanning one of those photos. The file size was about 600-800 kb. Looking abck at theme, they seem fairly primitive. And Voyager's photo from 1999 would of course be even more primitive. By 2008, photos were still pretty small but getting better - file size was more like 2.7 MB. The file size on current photos is more like 6.5 MB, and the quality is much better. And I have a 4 terabyte hard drive for my photos and sound files, so I can store stuff like that.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: voyager
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 08:24 AM

I think it looks fine Joe.


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Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway 1999 - Group Photo
From: voyager
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 01:41 PM

To restate our mission - A 1999 meeting of the Folklore Society of Greater Washington (fsgw_dot_org) and the Mudcat online traditional music community (mudcat_dot_org). Characters in this crowd include Songster Bob Clayton, Sandy and Carolyn Paton, Big Mick, Roger from Baltimore, Ferrara, Westra, Charlie Baum and the like.   This is the party I belong to.

I was personally honored by Sandy Paton to perform a family version of 'Fox Went Out On a Chilly Night'. This was the first post to the Mudcat in 1999 -

At a family reunion this summer my mother-in-law showed me a version of this folk song which had been in the archives for many years. As an amateur musicologist I was interested in the 'alternate lyrics' to this classic folk song. Thought list readers might be interested so here goes.....

THE FOX

The old fox stepped out one moonshining night
Stood upon his hind feet just about right
I'll have some meat for my supper this night
Before I leave this townee (townee, townee)
I'll have some meat for my supper this night
Before I leave this townee

He went on down to the blacksmith's gate,
There he saw an old black drake
Come on along old drake and go along with me
You're the finest old fellow in this townee
(REPEAT AS PER FIRST VERSE)

The old drake sat still and the word cried NO
Just sat still 'cause he didn't want to go
If you eat no meat 'til you eat meat of mine
You'll eat no meat in the townee
(REPEAT)

He went on down by the farmer's gate
There he saw an old grey goose
Come along old goose and go with me
You're the finest old fellow in the townee
(REPEAT)

The old goose sat still and the word cried NO
Just sat still 'cause he didn't want to go
If you eat no meat 'til you eat meat of mine
You'll eat no meat in the townee
(REPEAT)

He went on home to his den
Out come the young ones 8-9-10
O father, O father when you again
You've had no luck in this townee
(REPEAT)

He went on back on his back track
He took the old grey goose by the neck
Her wing went flip-flop over his back
Her feet went dingle dangle down-ee
(REPEAT)

Old mother tipped up in the bed
Out of the window she poked her head
Old man, old man the grey goose is gone
I thought I heard her go quack, quack-eo
(REPEAT)

The old man jumped up in his shirtail
And with toe dogs on the trail
They caught the fox at the end of the trail
And that was the end of the fox-e-o
(REPEAT)

END

voyager


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