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BS: Implants

GUEST,Ed T 24 Jan 14 - 08:19 PM
Bill D 24 Jan 14 - 08:27 PM
gnu 24 Jan 14 - 08:31 PM
olddude 24 Jan 14 - 08:44 PM
GUEST,Ed T 24 Jan 14 - 08:53 PM
gnu 24 Jan 14 - 08:57 PM
bobad 24 Jan 14 - 08:59 PM
Rapparee 24 Jan 14 - 10:02 PM
Bert 24 Jan 14 - 11:09 PM
Rapparee 24 Jan 14 - 11:42 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 25 Jan 14 - 02:30 AM
GUEST, topsie 25 Jan 14 - 04:54 AM
Richard Bridge 25 Jan 14 - 05:33 AM
Ebbie 25 Jan 14 - 03:27 PM
Elmore 25 Jan 14 - 03:52 PM
Louie Roy 25 Jan 14 - 06:17 PM
gnu 25 Jan 14 - 08:21 PM
akenaton 26 Jan 14 - 04:10 AM
GUEST 26 Jan 14 - 07:51 AM
Rapparee 26 Jan 14 - 11:15 PM
Louie Roy 27 Jan 14 - 10:38 AM
Jack the Sailor 27 Jan 14 - 04:03 PM
olddude 27 Jan 14 - 06:34 PM
olddude 27 Jan 14 - 06:39 PM

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Subject: BS: Inplants
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:19 PM

No, not that type inplant:)

Last week I had a molar tooth go terminal, it could not be saved, nand it had to be pulled.
The dentist recommends an inplant. I hnderstand the material and process has improved alot in the past few years. And, I understand it is expensive (I doubt my plan would cover much of it). Has anyone here had one and care to share the experience and advice - good or bad? It seems kinda complex, first requiring a "sinus lift " procedure, to accommidate the inplant, placing the inplant and then a crown. Because of the position, a bridge wont work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inplants
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:27 PM

Ah... implant (it is easy to hear the word wrong)

I just had 2 crowns, as I could not afford the extra that implants would cost.. (not that I could easily afford crowns, but had to do something)

My dentist says that implants are very successful and permanent these days. The modern techniques are pretty well advanced.... but it IS expensive. Didn't he give you a price range?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inplants
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:31 PM

I expect you shall be rewarded in your request shortly. Stay tuned.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inplants
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:44 PM

I have two ... they each run about 2K a piece when it is all said and done. They are great but dang expensive


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Subject: RE: BS: Inplants
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:53 PM

Sorry, yes implant. The price range I was given was from 2 to 3 thousand. I can get the dental part done a bit cheaper 15OO to 2000 at a local dental school, as part of the last year of their training.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inplants
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:57 PM

Pay full price and pay someone with 20 years experience.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inplants
From: bobad
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:59 PM

The 2 to 3 thousand is just for the post right? The crown runs another couple thousand making the total around $5,000 depending if bone grafting is required. That is the cost here in Ontario where I am.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inplants
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 10:02 PM

Last May I embarked on: 6 implanted sockets for 8 (or 9?) teeth, which included the four teeth immediately in the front of my upper mouth ("All I want for Christmas is my four front teeth..."), a sinus lift, and a bone graft where the bone between the sinus and the jaw had become literally paper thin. About three weeks ago I had the last of implant sockets implanted in the bone graft AND! A SPECIAL BONUS PRIZE!! a large polyp removed from my right maxillary sinus and yes, I CAN breath better now!

Wickedly expensive, and the polypectomy (if that's what it's called) was the only thing covered by insurance. But the fix should last for the rest of my life (my brother busted out my two front upper teeth back in 1959 by making me go ass over handlebars on my bicycle), I can play the trumpet better that I could even in high school*, I can eat a apple or corn on the cob without worrying about the partial plates I wore for years, and I don't know how to describe how good I look since there is nothing above the perfection I was.

A sinus lift doesn't show, but it does help you to breathe better. Ripping out a polyp the size of a pack of small post-it notes also helped, of course. The bone graft was needed because I could have eventually chewed something and broken through the bone of the jaw.
My blood oxygen level (I've been seen doctors a lot lately because the end-of-the-year rush for surgery and such is over) has gone from 92-94% to 97%.

Warning: this is a looooooong-term commitment. A bone graft will take about 5 or 6 months to "take" enough so that the implant sockets can be put in. The metal "posts" for the sockets for my latest (and last) sockets will be put in in June.

I will state it bluntly: if you can in any way afford it, do it. Especially the sinus lift and bone graft. I was lucky -- we had some "Required Minimum Distribution" coming in and this allowed us to claims some of the expensive as medical and use it as a deduction on our income tax instead as taxable income (this year will be different!).

Just two further thoughts. First, be sure that they use general anesthesia because the pain will be bad enough for the first few days afterwards, and secondly, please do get someone to drive you home from the surgery -- and hopefully stay with you for the next three days or so, holding your hand and bathing your fevered brow and making sure you don't do something REALLY dumb like try to walk down the stairs to the basement.


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Bert
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 11:09 PM

I have heard that there are problems with deep seated infections; but I really don't know.

Talking of implants listen to Silicone Cindy here http://www.bertsolutions.com/s.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 11:42 PM

I was on antibiotics both before and after all the operations -- and was carefully monitored.


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 02:30 AM

Tooth implants are great!...and a lot cheaper in Mexico. I've talked to several people who have gotten them, some of the people got them here, some 'Down South'(as in Mexico)...everybody whom I've talked to about them, who have gotten the procedure swear by them!


GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 04:54 AM

I met someone recently who was very upset - her implant had fallen out. I don't know the details or reason for it, but you should be aware that it can happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 05:33 AM

They are also done relatively cheaply (about £1,000 per tooth all-in) in Eastern Europe. I am considering having 5. But I could buy a REALLY nice guitar - or very good classic Volvo - for that! Not much point (IMHO) in having 6s or 7s done - they don't show.


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 03:27 PM

Here in Alaska, I know three Koreans who have gone back to Korea to have them implanted. MUCH cheaper there, they say. However, I don't know if they figure in the cost of the trip itself.

One- a woman - even had silver bits put in several of her new teeth. I don't quite see the point of that, but then, it is not in my culture. I know, though, that a few generations back gold bits/teeth were popular, or at least significant, in this country. Come to think of it, I recently saw a photo of some rapper somewhere with gold teeth.

That way one needn't have pockets. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Elmore
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 03:52 PM

Another reason I really need to hit the lottery.


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Louie Roy
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 06:17 PM

ED T I recommend implants 100%. IN 1988 I had 4 implants in my lower jaw and today 26 years later with full dentures they are healthy and just as strong as the day they were implanted. Before the operation I'd already had all of my teeth pulled and was wearing plates both upper and lower and using a gallon of fast teeth every month to keep them in. They won't put them in your upper jaw due to the fact they could hit your sinus and that's a no no. At that time 1988 it costs $850.00 per implant plus I had to have a new lower plate which cost me 1800.00. ED if you need anymore info PM or email me and I'll try to answer all questions


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 08:21 PM

Told ya. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 04:10 AM

Christ....what a spoiled lot we are! Most of us are well bye our sell by date, what good are tooth implants?

Think knees,hips, eyes and ears......teeth?......get a set eh wallies!! :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 07:51 AM

I just came across this article. There seems to be some risk of rejection and infection and some new material to reducevthat risk.


new material 


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 11:15 PM

Louie, all of my recent implants were in my "upper." New stuff, new techniques and all that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Louie Roy
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 10:38 AM

Rapparee that's good to know. Medically they have come a long ways since 1988


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 04:03 PM

Mexican implants? Implants we don't need no steenking implants!


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: olddude
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 06:34 PM

Bob is correct that does not include the tooth it is just the surgery. My insurance picked up most of that but the 2200 came out of pocket for each one.   Without insurance add about 1000 - 1600 depends on the dentist


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Subject: RE: BS: Implants
From: olddude
Date: 27 Jan 14 - 06:39 PM

To be honest with you, I won't do it again. I need one more but I am opting for just a simple bridge on it instead. It runs about 1400 in total and I really don't see a heck of a lot of difference for me anyway. Both work, I can eat that is all I care about


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