BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 03:31 PM

The end of the post immediately before my jocular response.

Ag, but I make no claims otherwise, Ake - neither do I whine on about being hard done to or even bother much with the Holy Law. I gave your comment the contempt it deserved at the time, though in context (and retrospect) I feel it was a fair response to what I said, which was an equally fair response to your ongoing homophobic idiocy, and so on down the line. I'm just pointing out that you (and Jack the Flamer) give as good as you get - so why the hypocrisy, huh?

Otherwise, I think it's civilised enough around here. The worst I've ever had was a PM from Joe Offer a few years back saying I disgusted him for defending MtheGM's right to call me a c*nt. Top stuff!

I don't think anyone here is operating out of pure malice - the various Mudcat Trolls & Flamers are quite a mild bunch considering some of the stuff you see out there. Here it's just hearty banter spiced up with a touch of genuine heartfelt conviction and maybe just a pinch of disappointment that anyone could be so damn dumb in the face of so wondrous a diversity as The Cosmos and all we who dwell therein.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Musket
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 03:37 PM

Aye, ignorance isn't always wicked. Refusal to be enlightened through debate though, it makes you wonder why they seek debate in the first place.

I've had a few pm and emails from our resident saint myself. Personally, I prefer the ones where he likes me.

The only thing I can't tolerate is intolerance.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 04:20 PM

Jack B, There IS a difference, I do not curse at you or call you an idiot.

These issues are going to affect society in the future, HIV Infection, the secular society versus religious faith, "liberalism" versus social conservatism, they deserve serious discussion.

Knee jerk reactions are unacceptable, blanket "stoppers", like "equality", "discrimination", "homophobia", "racism", don't cut it on a discussion forum like this.

I have seen no homophobia, or racism here for years and out in the real world equality does not exist under our economic system.

Just keep calm and make your case, you are not God, your ideology is not worth more than mine or any other member of this forum, unless you can prove it to be better.

An example. A guest/ member called me a homophobic bigot on my statement that many male homosexual "marriages"/ unions are different from conventional marriage, in that they are often "open" relationships containing several sexual partners, I posted a link backing my statement and it was completely ignored. A couple of posts later the same person called me a homophobic bigot again....Its all meaningless bullshit, simply an intimidation tactic.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 04:30 PM

Yes, there is a difference. Calling someone an idiot or cursing them is a frivolous, if annoying, pastime. Calling into question someone's sanity or possible addictions when you have no idea whether that person is mentally unstable or has a close one who does suffer from addiction is reckless and could do some serious damage.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 04:57 PM

"Merry Christmas to you too Jack no matter what planet or substance you are on"

I was an sardonic joke in response to a foul mouthed abusive post.
As YOU know very well.

Disingenuous to the end Dave?

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 05:05 PM

Mike Rice!!

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 05:34 PM

"
Don't be downhearted Jack, because not everyone is unkind or argumentative, or tends to bicker."

I know this. Those who do that are likely to be pleased that I will no longer be trying to talk them out of their recreation.

I would send you a "private message" if I could but I have said as much as I can on the matter publicly.

Cheers Eliza and God Bless you.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: gnu
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 05:46 PM

Well, it appears this thread is pretty much done. So, ya gonna ask fer it ta be closed, JtS? The reason I ask is because ya said it 'might' be goodbye and the thread went on long enough fer tha site owner ta ask ya if ya needed any help on yer decision. I mean, take a hint eh b'y? Shit er get off tha pot would ya? Further, I always liked your posts and I like you as a person but fer tha Lard thunderin fuck, it's about time ya gave this shit up. Ere ya TRYIN ta get Max ta chuck ya fer good like ya posted above? Is it a fuckin game? I wouldn't be surprised or blame him if he mowed yer grass after all this fertilizer. I mean, WTF? WHY? And, I don't need a reply. Just shit or get off tha pot. The trolls are gatherin by the post and shittin in the pile and it stinks.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 05:57 PM

I have no control over Max or the trolls, gnu. Thank you for your concern. I am also not going to tell or ask anyone to close a thread. I've had that suggestion ignored and mocked too may times.

I know you like me as a person. But that is almost never to my benefit. This is the fourth or fifth time you basically called me an arsehole in public. That isn't exactly kind or polite. Is it? Why can't you complain to me privately? You are not rude on Facebook? What is it about the Mudcat?

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 06:11 PM

I was an sardonic joke in response to a foul mouthed abusive post.
As YOU know very well.

I know nothing of the sort. How should I?

Let me give you another example. Someone once posted that anyone who wears ear plugs at concerts is rude and ignorant. I pointed out that my wife had to wear them because of a hearing problem that causes her physical pain when the noise levels, particularly the bass registers, get to high. They then took the opportunity to laugh at the image of people with hearing problems going to concerts. Very funny joke indeed. Almost as good as making fun of the mentally disturbed and drug addicts.

Come of it, ake. You are more than happy to have a go at people, often in a very underhand way, but when they have the temerity to answer back you start to scream about abuse.

Hah!

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: gnu
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 06:34 PM

"This is the fourth or fifth time you basically called me an arsehole."

I disagree. You misinterpreted some posts in previous threads and they are in the record for YOU to review. As for my post to which you refer above, I am not calling you an arsehole. Rather, I am calling your bluff. Simply, I am tired of your railing against what we now know to be a Mudcat posting policy and pissing off the mods and members and the site owner. I like ya but... drop it eh?

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 07:07 PM

I disagree with you gnu.
What's a man to do?


If you want the thread to be closed ask for it yourself.
If you have crap to throw around throw it a someone else.

If you are showing off you Max. Take your show elsewhere please.

If you are my friend, stop being a jackass and take the show private.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 07:18 PM

Is this the same Sailor who posted under multiple identities attacking multiple members anonymously until he was outed by the Mudelfs? This is laughable.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Songwronger
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 09:18 PM

This is the longest version of Camille I've ever seen.

I had no idea you pissed off so many people here Jack the Sailor. I know you bitched about my condemnation of fascism, and I think I made it through a couple of your posts during those exchanges, but DAMN man, you've really irritated some people.

Clue on how to go out with a bit of style.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 09:59 PM

From an intermittent visitor, who only posts when he has something which contributes, I think some of you post too much, causing threads to degenerate either into waffle or bile. When I see what actually happened in the Countess Richard funeral thread last year, I'm certain I don't want much to do with the folk world now, friends like that I don't need. Right or wrong, a real human being's passing deserved better than the arguments over what had happened rather than actually finding out. And it applies to both sides: has anyone actually done anything to ensure any other singleton folkies are checked up on, for instance? Nope. At least I can say I'm now working with one of the Councils involved to improve such questions.

Subject: RE: BS: This may be goodbye. from JTS.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Mar 14 - 10:52 PM

Shall we end this? It has gone full-circle, and near the end has received both crocodile tears from Songwronger and accurate remarks from an unnamed Guest: I think some of you post too much, causing threads to degenerate either into waffle or bile.

bobad commented about "the long goodbye" and gnu suggested it is time to "Just shit or get off tha pot."

I'll just add "good night, good night, good night" (Michael Cooney).

SRS