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Lyr Req: Palomita - 'Little Dove'

jeffpoet 09 Oct 14 - 05:59 PM
GUEST,# 09 Oct 14 - 07:15 PM
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GUEST, topsie 10 Oct 14 - 08:47 AM
maeve 10 Oct 14 - 08:47 AM
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GUEST,GUEST 28 Jan 20 - 09:53 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita
From: jeffpoet
Date: 09 Oct 14 - 05:59 PM

Does anyone have the words and perhaps music/chords for a (I think Spanish/South American) folksong (perhaps 'Little Dove') I was taught at school. The only lines I can recall are: 'Pamolita we'll wander together, in the vale where the oranges grow.' Thanks Jeff


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita
From: GUEST,#
Date: 09 Oct 14 - 07:15 PM

I saw a reference to it in Google books but the only line quoted was "Juanita we'll wander together in the vale where the oranges grow."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita
From: GUEST,#
Date: 10 Oct 14 - 08:37 AM

Any chance the word Pamolita is misspelled?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 10 Oct 14 - 08:47 AM

Should be Palomita.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita
From: maeve
Date: 10 Oct 14 - 08:47 AM

Since "paloma" means dove, and "palomita" means little dove, I'd assume a typo.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita? / Palomita
From: GUEST,marty
Date: 11 Dec 14 - 05:23 PM

Palomita we'll wander together,
in the vale where the oranges grow.
Little dove in the warm summer weather,
we shall nothing but happiness know.
There are heavens all azure and .........with flowers
abundantly and....entwining.
Palomita we'll wander together
in the vale where the oranges grow.

(the ... indicate the words I cannot recall.
I am looking for the 1950's Songbook that had this song in it but can' t recall the name of it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita? / Palomita
From: GUEST,Guest, Sue
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 03:11 PM

Oh, so glad to see someone looking for this song.We learned in the early 50s. The song has special significance for me. My dad heard me singing while I washed dishes, hurried down out of the attic to hear such a lovely song.

I hope to see an update, soon!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita? / Palomita
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 03:26 PM

Well, there's a Mexican folk song collected by Manuel M Ponce:

Palomita, vamos a mi tierra,
Y seremos felices los dos....

the same tune, perhaps?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita? / Palomita
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 17 - 03:31 PM

Palomita
We'll wander together
in the vale where the oranges grow
Little dove, in the warm summer weather,
we shall nothing but happiness know
There the heavens all azure are shining,
and flowers abundant are bright are entwining


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita? / Palomita
From: GUEST,GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 20 - 09:53 AM

Written by Msanuel Ponce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiO98awL1uE


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Little Dove' Pamolita? / Palomita
From: leeneia
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 01:55 PM

Thanks for the link, Guest. I've made a MIDI file of the tune and will send it in for posting here. Then maybe someone can make an ABC of it.

Click to play (joeweb)


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Subject: ADD 'Little Dove' - Palomita
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 11:24 PM

I've got the MIDI link in leeneia's message above. Here are the lyrics that correspond to her MIDI:

Palomita
Language: Spanish (Español)

PALOMITA

Palomita vamos a mi tierra,
Y seremos felices los dos,
Gozaremos lo que un_alma_encierra,
Y_estaremos en gracia de Dios.

¿Por qué quiero de ti separarme?
Tengo_otros amores,
tengo_otros consuelos.

Palomita vamos a mi tierra,
Y seremos felices los dos.

¡Palomita.

(English Version by Aura Kontra)

Little dove, let us fly to my homeland,
We'll be happy as happy can be.
We'll enjoy living there in contentment,
And your dreams you can share with me.

How can I leave you here far behind me?
My life would be lonely without you beside me.
Little dove, let us fly to my homeland,
We'll be happy as happy can be.


Source: Making Music Your Own, Grade 6, Silver Burdett Company, 1971, page 40.

Click to play (joeweb)


Click to play harmony (joeweb)

Same (Spanish) lyrics at this source: https://www.lieder.net/lieder/get_text.html?TextId=16927


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Palomita - 'Little Dove'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 01:53 AM

But the song I posted isn't very close to the requested song, "Pamolita we'll wander together, in the vale where the oranges grow."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Palomita - 'Little Dove'
From: leeneia
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 12:52 PM

Thanks, Joe.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Palomita - 'Little Dove'
From: GUEST,keberoxu
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 01:52 PM

It looks as though
the requested English
might be a sung translation,
the sort that fits the meter of the lyrics and music,
that fits the rhythms,
rather than exactly translating the meaning of the Spanish words.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Palomita - 'Little Dove'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 02:54 PM

I wondered that, too, Keberoxu - I don't see any oranges (naranjas) in the Spanish, but sometimes "translations" of songs are a far cry from the original.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Palomita - 'Little Dove'
From: leeneia
Date: 04 Feb 20 - 03:32 PM

Oops. Today I started putting chords on the MIDI I made, and there's a problem with it. It sounds fine, and if you want to listen to it to learn the tune, it will work. But now it looks like the first two notes should be pick-up notes, because so far, the chords fit better that way.


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