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Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 08:16 AM
GUEST,Kampervan 26 Jun 15 - 08:23 AM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Jun 15 - 08:30 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 09:32 AM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Jun 15 - 09:44 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 09:52 AM
Nigel Parsons 26 Jun 15 - 10:03 AM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Jun 15 - 10:13 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 10:40 AM
GUEST,Derrick 26 Jun 15 - 10:55 AM
GUEST,Derrick 26 Jun 15 - 11:12 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 11:13 AM
Vic Smith 26 Jun 15 - 11:18 AM
Jim Carroll 26 Jun 15 - 11:31 AM
GUEST 26 Jun 15 - 11:32 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 11:34 AM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Jun 15 - 11:47 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 12:01 PM
Spleen Cringe 26 Jun 15 - 12:07 PM
GUEST,Kampervan 26 Jun 15 - 12:22 PM
Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 12:58 PM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Jun 15 - 01:02 PM
Jim Carroll 26 Jun 15 - 01:04 PM
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Dave the Gnome 26 Jun 15 - 01:29 PM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Jun 15 - 01:32 PM
Jim Carroll 26 Jun 15 - 02:02 PM
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Subject: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 08:16 AM

I don't think we should. Or anyone who slouches about. Those with poor deportment are probably foreigners anyway and we have no room for them here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 08:23 AM

What about people with dirty shoes?


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 08:30 AM

I am spending a lot of time in hospitals right now, and the many "foreigners" on the staff do not "slouch about" at all.
They are good people and dedicated workers.

I am very grateful for the care they give, though I feel guilty that we steal them from poor countries because it is cheaper than us paying to train them.

Is there room for more people to come here.
Yes.
It used to be said that every living person could physically be fitted on to the Isle of Wight.
England is already about the most densely populated country on Earth, and the population has just increased by the equivalent of another Leeds in just one year.

Obviously we have not built another Leeds, so the desperate shortage of houses, schools and hospitals gets worse every day.

Will you call me an obscene name again for this Dave?


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 09:32 AM

England is already about the most densely populated country on Earth

The UK is 18th if you only count large countries. 51st if you count smaller states and dependencies.

And yes, I probably will. But when you least expect it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 09:44 AM

How sad you are to have to resort to obscene name calling.
I left that behind with puberty.

This is what The Daily Telegraph said about our population.
They have more cred than you and never resort to naughty words.

"Beyond Europe, England's population density is among the highest in the world for major countries. England ranks third in density after Bangladesh (1,045 per sq km) and South Korea (498 per sq km)."

"The figures were obtained in a parliamentary answer from the Office of National Statistics.
In 2008 the average number of people per square kilometre in Britain was 253, rising to 395 in England.
Latest figures from Holland show that its population density was 395 a square kilometre in 2002 and 393 in 2005. It is estimated that English population density will rise to 464 people for every square kilometre by 2031.
The population density in England is already almost double the level in Germany and quadruple that in France.
The only country in the European Union with greater crowding is the tiny island of Malta, which only has 400,000 people, most of whom live around the port of Valletta.
England has taken its position as the most crowded country in Europe at a point when the risk of economic recession has led to growing concerns over diminishing numbers of jobs and pressure on public services."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/2967374/England-is-most-crowded-country-in-Europe.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 09:52 AM

And this is what sensible people have to say about that. No it isn't.

I suspect the Telegraph do not resort to 'naughty words' because they do not have to deal with you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 10:03 AM

Dave, Keith,
You are not discussing the same facts.
Dave's link discusses the population density of the UK, Keith's the population density of England.

I think we can agree that Scotland (with its highlands & islands) is less densly populated than England. This brings the figure for UK in at a lower density than for England alone.

Can we avoid and argument in which you may both be right in what you are stating, without the other, necessarily, being wrong?


"Seconds out, Round 2"


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 10:13 AM

Dave, I supplied that same link on the other thread.

It gives this ranking,
Bangladesh
The Palestinian territories
Taiwan
South Korea
The Netherlands
England.

Palestinian Territories are not any kind of country.
That is why the Telegraph ignored it.
Taiwan is a large city on a small island, and not considered a "major country."
The Netherlands were overtaken by us in population density years ago, so your link confirms the Telegraph's view that "Beyond Europe, England's population density is among the highest in the world for major countries. England ranks third in density after Bangladesh (1,045 per sq km) and South Korea (498 per sq km)."


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 10:40 AM

We should not discuss part of the UK as a separate entity, Nigel. It is misleading to do so as explained in the article I linked. It is a tactic favoured by little Englanders. Immigration is always UK wide. To try and represent it in any other way is dishonest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,Derrick
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 10:55 AM

Nigel,
      Keith and the telegraph prefer to use the English figures it makes the problem seem so much more dramatic.
The majority use the less dramatic UK figures.
Upland Dartmoor and parts of the Yorkshire moors have a density of one or less per square km London has a density of many hundreds possibly thousands per square km.
Careful selection of statistics can give a very distorted picture.
Can I ring the bell for the next round?


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,Derrick
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 11:12 AM

From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 08:30 AM
Is there room for more people to come here.
Yes.
So what's the problem Keith?


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 11:13 AM

BTW - England has taken its position as the most crowded country in Europe

England is not a member state of the EU. The UK is. More manipulation of statistics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Vic Smith
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 11:18 AM

Have the two protagonists considered that considering that simple population density figures (area divided by population) might be meaningless?
Mauritania has only 3.77 people per sq. km. Wow! The place is virtually empty! The could afford to take many millions more.... except that the country is 100% Sahara desert.

Let's compare two countries whose are is comparable in size:-
At http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.POP.DNST it tells us that the density figures for Japan is 350 whilst for the UK it is 265. That makes Japan 1.32 times more crowded than the UK except that Japan has vastly larger areas of uninhabitable highlands compared with Britain.

Then as well as these two elements you have factor in the state of economic, industrial and agricultural development, climate and a whole range of other considerations before you can arrive at a figure for how many people a country can reasonably sustain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 11:31 AM

"Dave, I supplied that same link on the other thread."
You appear to have moved from "most intensely populated in the world" to "second most" and now to seventh - getting nearer to the actual 52nd all the time - this time next year maybe.
Seems like yesterday you said - "Is there room for more people to come here. Yes."
My mistake, it was earlier today!!
You say that you are "spending a lot of time in hospitals right now"
Wonder why?
You have been given the researched figures and the warning of how they can be misused (by a Government official), yet you persist on claiming the misused figures presentthe true picture
Wonder why?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 11:32 AM

Keith A of Hertford may be quoting from The Daily Torygraph (which like any newspaper will lie and distort in order to push their particular agenda) but his timing is suspiciously in line with the plea from UKIP leadership to up the ante on this subject.

Forget The UK. England is not uniformly populated for starters. Any firgures are sheer nonsense.

The complaint UKIP, BNP and Keith have is based on a particular fallacy. Not the square footage of space available, but the drain on resources. As immigration consistently makes a posiitve contribution to the nation's coffers, and Nigel Farage and him with the wonky eye from BNP know this, the only reason they and Keith push this odious agenda, supported by the more extreme idiots in the Tory party is, like Keith's assertion that men of Pakistani origin are hardwired to rape white girls, just pigments of their odious imagination.

It's appalling that Mudcat is allowed to be a soapbox for extremists really..


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 11:34 AM

Yep - Well considered, Vic. Population density is indeed a red herring but as it was brought up here I thought I should debunk that myth before pointing out that it is irrelevant without the other factors you mention anyway.

So, how do we see this ending? All together now, There'll always be an England...

Recognise anyone in the clip?


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 11:47 AM

Meaningless?
What are you all ranting about then?

I mentioned our population density as a throw away remark in a post about our tolerance.

The Lefty outrage was unexpected and hilarious!

Dave's lefty site, that I linked to first, shows England in fourth place if you count Taiwan.
The only disagreement with the Telegraph ranking is they did not count Taiwan as a "major country."

Third or fourth, it was still reasonable, as an aside, to say, "England is about the most densely populated country on earth."

Unless you count Taiwan it is third, otherwise fourth.

I have nothing more to add.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 12:01 PM

It was you that brought it up first, Keith. Even you cannot deny that. Then again you have tried worse. What is 'My lefty site' BTW? I have no editorial input to any at all so by calling anything 'my site' you are, once again, distorting the truth. It really is second nature to you isn't it.

And if you think that it is reasonable to extract England out of the UK for your purposes that how about we extract other 'nations within nations'. In that case Northern Rhine and Westphalia is far more densely populated. There are many other such tricks but the more honest amongst us do not use them.

But since you have nothing more to add, I welcome your departure. Now just go away.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 12:07 PM

England is part of the UK. It's not a country in its own right. Even so huge swathes of England are under populated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 12:22 PM

Ooookay.

I mis-judged this one with my second posting on this thread.I sort of thought that DtG had started a tongue-in-cheek, vaguely humorous thread.

Apparently not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 12:58 PM

I had, KV, you need to look at the posting after yours to see where it all went wrong. You had not misjudged it at all but someone did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 01:02 PM

SC, England is a nation, as is Scotland.

Dave, it is a left wing site and you linked to it, hence "Dave's lefty site."

It was you that brought it up first, Keith. Even you cannot deny that.

I acknowledged that Dave.
I said, "I mentioned our population density as a throw away remark in a post about our tolerance."

We are third, or fourth if you count Taiwan as a "major country."


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 01:04 PM

"as a throw away remark in a post about our tolerance"
It was no such hing - it was a distorted picture presented by the right-wing press purporting to show how Britain cannot take any more immigrants - that has always been your line and has never changed.
At one time, you took great pains to show how the immigration figures were the cause of Britain's housing shortage.
"The Lefty outrage was unexpected and hilarious!"
You must be joking - you have gone from thread to thread being opposed because of your extremism -
"Dave's lefty site, that I linked to first, shows England in fourth place if you count Taiwan."
No it doesn't - the officially researched figures show Britain to be 52nd in the denisty population league - you have the statistics and you have the reasons why the Telegraph and the Daily Mail are claiming otherwise.   
This chart show there to be 51 countries with a higher population density than The United Kingdom
density chart
Like mixed sex marriage, if you are in favour of it, why do you spend so much effort opposing it?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 01:13 PM

"mixed sex marriage"
Single sex marriage - of course
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 01:29 PM

I thought you had nothing more to add, Keith. Close the door on your way out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 01:32 PM

Jim, you did link to the site, but only I quoted it.

It ranks England in fourth place if you count Taiwan.

The only disagreement with the Telegraph ranking is they did not count Taiwan as a "major country."

Third or fourth, it was still reasonable, as an aside, to say, "England is about the most densely populated country on earth."

And it was just an aside Jim.
The post was about our tolerance (!).


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 02:02 PM

"It ranks England in fourth place if you count Taiwan"
THer are 51 countries on the chart with a higher population density than the U.K. - am I missing something?
Quick sample from the top
Jim Carroll

Bahrain
1,647        1,701        1,734        1,753        

Bangladesh
1,161        1,174        1,188        1,203        

Barbados
652        655        659        662        

Belgium
361        365        368        369        

Bermuda
1,302        1,291        1,296        1,300        

Aruba
564        566        569        572


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 02:39 PM

You are missing something Jim.
Paragraph 3.

"England has a population of 51 million and a land mass of 50,000 square miles and this gives a population density of a little over 1,000 per square mile. Excluding islands, city states, and dependencies, this still places us behind
Bangladesh
The Palestinian territories
Taiwan
South Korea
The Netherlands
England"


Our population density overtook Netherlands some years ago and "Palestinian Territories" is not a country.

So, your site puts us fourth if you count the island of Taiwan, and third if you do not, both of which justify my original aside.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 02:41 PM

Can I ask again - if you have no problem with immigration (past arguments show you clearly have), why are you putting such an effort into denigrating something you support?
You did exactly the same with single-sex marriage - "I'm for it", then two threadsworth of evidence to show you clearly weren't
Jim Carroll

Some more
Comoros
222        227        233        238        244        
Curacao
327        325        324        325        326        
El Salvador
258        262        266        270        274        
Grenada
283        284        286        289        292        
Guam
242        247        253        259        264        
aiti
258        263        269        274        279        
Hong Kong SAR, China
5,762        5,810        5,859        5,961        6,096


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 02:45 PM

You can ask again Jim.
I have no problem with controlled immigration and have never denigrated it.
I do believe the current rate is too high.
That is also the position of all our major parties including Lib.Dems. and Labour.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 02:56 PM

"I have no problem with controlled immigration and have never denigrated it."
You are doing so now by deliberately claiming that Britain is - what is it now - the 7th most overcrowded country in the world, when you have been shown interminably that it is 52nd.
Want any more statistics to ignore?
"I do believe the current rate is too high."
Of course you do - why would't you?
"That is also the position of all our major parties including Lib.Dems. and Labour."
You mean Tweedle-Dum, Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle Dumber? - couldn't squeeze a credit card between any of their policies.
Please don't quote politicians at me - you fell at that fence on the Israel thread with your "decent countries" argument.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 03:22 PM

You are doing so now by deliberately claiming that Britain is - what is it now - the 7th most overcrowded country in the world,

I have not claimed any such thing.
I said we were about the most densely populated country, and I have quoted the Daily Telegraph that says we are the third.

Your site says the same, except it counts in the island of Taiwan which would make us fourth.

I also support gay marriage and have never said a word against it.
You are making stuff up about me again Jim.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,Sod cookies eat Jaffa cakes
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 03:30 PM

From Keith - "England is a country and its population density is {whatever, possibly a distortion.}

Yeah, and the population density of Cumbria is?

Hertfordshire is pretty rural too.

What is your point Keith? Pesky immigrants eh?

Disgusting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 03:32 PM

"Your site says the same,"
How can you possibly go on claiming that?
You have been given 13 countries all with greater population densities so far and I've only reached H in the alphabet...
Unbelievable!
"You are making stuff up about me again Jim."
No I am not, nor do I.
Your determination to belittle the result of the Irish referendum is common knowledge.
Sorry Keith - not qualified to deal with this sort of thing - think you have to have some sort of training
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 03:35 PM

I am not making a point.
Just saying that England is about the most densely populated country.
It was a throw away remark.
An aside in a post about tolerance(!).

I did not expect all the howls of outrage from all the lefties.
That was a bonus!


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 03:37 PM

Surely the question is not whether we are the ?th most populated country in the world, but whether or not we can accommodate more people?

A difficult question for me to answer personally, but I suspect that, with proper planning, our present 64.5 million could probably rise significantly without serious damage to the environment.

Stands back and waits for the firing squad.......


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 03:38 PM

Jim, I quoted you paragraph 3 from your site.
Here it is again.

"England has a population of 51 million and a land mass of 50,000 square miles and this gives a population density of a little over 1,000 per square mile. Excluding islands, city states, and dependencies, this still places us behind
Bangladesh
The Palestinian territories
Taiwan
South Korea
The Netherlands
England"


Our population density overtook Netherlands some years ago and "Palestinian Territories" is not a country.

So, your site puts us fourth if you count the island of Taiwan, and third if you do not, both of which justify my original aside.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 05:26 PM

Is it no wonder......

With no room to move about.....

..........................................................and so many alien servants..........................................................................................................................................................
.......................................The current issue of Time Magazine lists 61.8% of Brits being obese.

Source: "The Global Burden of Disease Study"

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Chance for a photo study....obviously obversely


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 05:58 PM

From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 01:02 PM
It was you that brought it up first, Keith. Even you cannot deny that.

I acknowledged that Dave.
I said, "I mentioned our population density as a throw away remark in a post about our tolerance."

From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 08:30 AM


England is already about the most densely populated country on Earth, and the population has just increased by the equivalent of another Leeds in just one year.

Obviously we have not built another Leeds, so the desperate shortage of houses, schools and hospitals gets worse every day.

Hardly a throw away remark,looks more a thought out statement to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,Derrick
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 06:02 PM

Guest 26 Jun 15 0102PM
was me, Pressed submit too soon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 06:33 PM

Luckily I am feeling particularly happy having just come home from seeing Bellowhead. Must say that stage looked rather crowded and I did not think Keith would still be at it having said he had no more to say hours ago. Still, it the spirit of bon homie I will point out that he has never said the the UK is the nth most dense, Jim. He has constantly referred only to England. It is a well known ploy by 'kippers and other right wing loonies. Immigration is listed as UK wide. Population density is only in England. Makes it look worse than it actually is and, sadly, as we can see, people are still falling for it. It is pretty much like me referring to Grassington as being grossly overcrowded with incomers by quoting the number of people in the Marquee at the concert. Blatant misinformation for a political agenda. But I think we knew that already.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 07:47 PM

'i did not expect all the howls of outrage from all the lefties'

nor did you get them, i have said nowt about your petty and pointless nonsense'

awhoooooooooooo!!!!!

unluckily i am feeling particularly unhappy after just returning from the john martyn gathering in hawes, n. yorkshire. should have gone to grassington.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Jun 15 - 08:23 PM

"Jim, I quoted you paragraph 3 from your site."
Never mind the out-of-context quotes Keith - you have the actual figures which place Britain 52nd, as is quoted in at least three sites you you have been linked to
I've given you thirteen which exceed Britain's 265 - would you like me to put up the other 39?
Always happy to oblige.
You "support" immigration like the rope "supports" the hanged man.
This is now getting grotesque.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: GUEST,The cookie crumbles..
Date: 27 Jun 15 - 03:11 AM

Oh well, in that case... I write from my tent at Glastonbury. Florence was on form last night.

Dave is on the button when he says using England figures for The UK is a ploy. According to an article a while ago in The Guardian, UKIP candidates were briefed on using England when running for UK seats ie Westminster.

Shouting down reality by referring to people as "lefties" meanwhile is a known BNP tactic.

What a cosmopolitan contributor we are honoured to "debate" with...


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 15 - 04:10 AM

Now, Glastonbury, there is another thing. Good example of how us poor English are treated. England is getting so crowded we have to live in tents with poor sanitation and are subjected to loud music night and day. While these Johnny come latelys live it up in their 10 to a room fancy ex-council apartments. It's an outrage.

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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 Jun 15 - 04:47 AM

Dave, I said I had nothing to add and I have added nothing, but to respond to all the demands of all the other lefties I had to reiterate the same stuff all over again.
Sorry, take it up with them.

I happened to say originally, in a post about our tolerance, that England is about the most densely populated country.
It is.
It is third (or fourth if you count the island of Taiwan).

Are you done with all the howls of lefty indignation and outrage?


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Jun 15 - 05:03 AM

"Are you done with all the howls of lefty indignation and outrage?"
When you have done with your rabid right attempts to demonise immigration
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 Jun 15 - 05:26 AM

I have not mentioned immigration once Jim.

Guardian two days ago,

"Population growth was the greatest in southern and eastern England, at 1.08% and 0.92% respectively. London had the highest growth, with population in the capital up 1.45%, a result of 82,400 more births than deaths and the highest net international migration of all regions at 107,400.

The estimated population of England as of mid-2014 was 54.3 million, up 0.84%; Scotland was 5.3 million, up 0.37%; Wales was 3.1 million, up 0.31%; and Northern Ireland was 1.8 million, up 0.59%. No country of the UK or region of England witnessed population decline."

"Simon Ross, the chief executive of Population Matters, the UK's leading charity working on population and sustainability issues, said the ONS estimates were a warning of the urgency of attempting to to reduce population growth.

"We are all affected adversely by the rapid population growth of recent decades," Ross said. "Examples include pressure on housing and public services to the environment and climate change. It's time we addressed the population problem, and find ways to live sustainably and happily in the long-term."
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/25/uk-population-at-record-high-with-net-migration-the-biggest-driver


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 Jun 15 - 05:31 AM

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/06/englands-migrant-population-increased-by-565000-in-three-years-study


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Subject: RE: BS: Paying nurses with poor deportment
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 15 - 05:31 AM

Original Thread
Deporting poorly paid nurses

New thread
Paying nurses with poor deportment

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synonyms:        play on words, wordplay, double entendre, double meaning, innuendo, witticism, quip;

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