BS: thoughts on change

Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on change
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 05:12 AM

"but a committed terrorist will get weapons."
A hackneyed and somewhat pathetic excuse for not preventing people from owning guns
Gun control would enable the police to concentrate on terrorism rather than cope with the permanent threat brought about by anybody being allowed to carry a gun.
Sadly gun deathrs are not all brought about bt "deranged inadequates, only the most spectacular ones - or was it a deranged inadequate four-year-old who shot his father recently.
The vast majority of killings have no connection too political or religious causes- they happen every day in the home and on the street.
"I don't think there will ever be an effective way to ban guns in the U.S."
Then you will go on killing each other indefinitely Joe - as the man from Hill Street Blues used to say "be careful out there".
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on change
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 04:35 AM

I don't expect people I associate with, to have guns. I think the people I have as friends aren't the kind of people to want to have guns. I rarely see guns in people's homes. I know some hunters, but they don't seem to be the kind of people who would carry guns "for protection."

But the county where I live is known to be a gun-crazy area. I do hear gunshots once or twice a month in my rural area. A neighbor shot a bear in his yard a couple years back. And I see letters to the local newspaper from people who insist they need guns "for protection." And the main thing they seek protection from seems to be the government, not bad guys. That scares me.

I don't think there will ever be an effective way to ban guns in the U.S.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on change
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 04:29 AM

Gun control might make it harder for the deranged inadequates to go on killing sprees, but a committed terrorist will get weapons.
The same terror group shot ninety dead in a club in France which has much stricter gun control.
These are very different cases to previous mass shootings.

Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on change
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 04:17 AM

I don't think it's so much getting rid of the guns that is the problem, but the culture of 'right to own' which appears to be foated by the gun industries desire to sell their product.
There is a very disturbing American journalist named Mary Ellen Synon living in the Next county down from here, Kerry, who, demanded that it was the "duty" of every rural-dwelling family to arm itself.
This was sort;y after Traveller, John Ward had been executed by a farmer who believed he was being burgled.
The farmer, finding Ward in his farmyard, shot and wounded him,
and as he lay on the ground, beat him with a fence-post.
Finding himself out of ammunition, he want into the house, reloaded his shotgun and administered the coupe-de-grace - he was acquitted by the jury.
Mary Ellen Synon had previously achieved fame when her articles were dropped by he national press when she described Irish paralympics competitors as "grotesque" and the event itself "perverse"
God save us all from such mentality.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on change
From: Senoufou
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 03:34 AM

I've often wondered, if a country decides to ban guns, how they'd go about seizing all the millions of firearms kept by millions of people in their homes? An amnesty wouldn't be terribly effective; folk would hang on grimly to their guns at all costs, and there must be vast numbers in the USA. One could hardly raid private premises like the Gestapo and root through people's cupboards and drawers.
Here in UK we seldom see 'a gun', except in the possession of, say Airport Police. I've no doubt many are out there, but it certainly isn't the norm, thank goodness.

Subject: BS: thoughts on change
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 12:39 AM

Thinking of the families of those killed, and of all affected, by the recent killings in Orlando.

We are lucky in Australia, in that since our 1996 gun ownership legislation changes, we have had no mass killings.

I know its so hard to get legislation changed, all sorts of legislation, and here in Australia we have our own intractable issues, such as mining pollution, which has destroyed one of the natural wonders of the world, the Great Barrier Reef.

love and best regards to my Mudcat friends in the States, thinking of you all right now,

freda