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Subject: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 01:52 PM

This Sunday evening television show is now in its sixth season. I wasn't watching the other night, so I didn't see it with my own eyes, but a big deal happened:

Lana Parrilla kissed Robert Carlyle. It only took them five years to get there.

The OUAT fandom went ballistic: OOOH, the Evil Queen kissed Rumpelstiltskin!
In case you weren't aware, the critics may pan this show, but OUAT has a big audience base, and they post online a lot: search online for posts about this show, at your peril, it may crash your system.

That is one point of view from which to observe the show.
Another is to focus on the actors as they get put through their paces, playing these often fantastic (literally so) characters.
From the initial season, Lana Parrilla and Robert Carlyle have relished being cast as the villainous characters, and have enjoyed each other's company even as their characters plot against each other. So, I'm thinking that after all these episodes, this moment might have been suggested by the actors to the show-runners: hey, guys, can we two have our characters kiss each other?

This past summer, Danny Boyle shot the sequel to "Trainspotting" in Scotland, and when Robert Carlyle returned from that shoot to the OUAT set, he had his long hair sheared off for the role of Begbie, so the showrunners had to work that into the plot somehow.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 02:15 PM

I liked that show in Season 1, especially the twist on the wolf in Riding Hood.

Have you read The Witch's Boy? There are other takes on fairy tales there too.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 06:17 PM

This thread is below the line, where it belongs; there is a thread above the line that is relevant, though.

Robert Carlyle volunteered a lullaby in Scots, old enough that maybe it was one that he was raised with, as a child; his reading of the poem was broadcast on an episode early this season.

Here's the thread about the Scots lullaby, and its poet.

Sleep Well, my Bairnie


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 03:26 PM

There is a lot to love about Season 1 of Once Upon A Time.

Somebody, however, is missing: Colin O'Donoghue, who plays Captain Hook. He admits to approaching this role with Errol Flynn's Captain Blood in mind. You may or may not like the way his character is written, or the incredible experiences that happen to his character. But his casting is a triumph, and he is a fan favorite.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 04:27 PM

This coming weekend's episode, I probably will not watch with the rest of the fandom. However, I can report:

that it goes back to the premise of the initial season and the entire show. This episode centers on Snow White, Prince Charming, and the Evil Queen. The Brothers Grimm motive is recapitulated:
The Evil Queen wants Snow White's heart.
The Queen will destroy an entire settlement of people just to get that heart.
We have seen beating hearts pulled out of living chests (good old FX) since Season 1.

The twist here will be, that several seasons back, Prince Charming was robbed of his heart, and Snow White made her heart two, giving the Prince half of hers. The Evil Queen, now, cannot take down one of them without taking down the other as well.

I guess Rumplestiltskin will be mixed up in it; he usually is; but I will just read the online recaps instead of watching.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Nov 16 - 07:19 PM

You want dark, fairytale fans? This season is getting darker with each episode.

The Evil Queen is a very catty villain, who likes to play with her victims before she dispatches them. Accordingly, she got the plaything she wanted -- both pieces of Snow White's heart, which sustain the life of both Snow White and Prince Charming -- and, once she had it, she used it to make the couple suffer worse than ever.

The shared heart went back to each of its bearers, with a particularly complex curse upon it, a twist on the sleeping curse from which Prince Charming awoke Snow White in the pilot episode.

From now henceforth, one of the couples must be asleep in order for the other to be awake and active, which means the two may never again be awake at the same time. So, now that they are married, keeping house, and raising a recently born baby son, they take turns keeping the bed warm and keeping the household going, leaving little affectionate tokens around, like written notes or photos on their cellphones, in order to connect with each other in absentia.

And talking of babies, Rumpelstiltskin and Belle, who got married during an episode when Rumpel was behaving himself, are expecting a baby; but about the time the pregnancy was discovered, the two had a big quarrel and are now estranged. So Belle is angry with Rumpelstiltskin and wants to keep the baby away from its father....but of course its father specialises in snatching babies.

So while the Evil Queen is toying with Snow White and Prince Charming, Rumpelstiltskin is plotting about baby-snatching his own baby from his estranged spouse. The preview for the next episode shows Belle going into labor, attended by Emma. I think I may be too chicken to watch.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Nov 16 - 02:23 PM

So, I WAS too chicken to watch, but too curious not to look at online recaps to find out what happened.

Oh dear. Belle's Rumpel-baby has been birthed, and she handed it over for adoption, I think to Mother Superior Blue Fairy....no, I am not making that up. Nor am I making up the big reveal, which took us five seasons to get to:

Rumpelstiltskin turns out to be the offspring of Peter Pan and the Black -- not Blue, Black -- Fairy. Both his parents abandoned him. And so he became famous for stealing babies.

I smell a steaming heap of really bad jokes.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Nov 16 - 05:56 PM

...like the specialized insult, "Son of a fairy" ?


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 01:23 PM

Link to an online review of the most recent episode, "Changelings."

Once Upon A Time season 6


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 May 17 - 01:09 PM

The end of Season Six was this past weekend.

Robert Carlyle's character got to stop one of the bad guys, using lethal force.

The savior/hero realized that sacrifice, not lethal force, was indicated in her final battle; so she did the sacrificial thing, and was resurrected by a kiss from her son.

And, with six-year contracts having expired, several lead actors decided not to renew; so their characters are off to the Land of Happy Endings, which does not exist on this show!
The character's actor has to leave the show to get there.

The savior is one of those characters.
However, Robert Carlyle is coming back in autumn for season seven, along with Lana Parilla and Colin O'Donoghue. Three of the shades-of-grey troublemaker-characters. While at least three of the "good guys" leave the series.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Jun 17 - 04:17 PM

So it is almost time to end the actors' hiatus from shooting "Once Upon A Time."
Probably in July the actors will have their script or two,
and one episode at a time will be filmed,
getting ready for an autumn season premiere -- the seventh year.

When "Once Upon A Time" began, the full-time cast actors agreed to contracts of six years.
Those contracts were up for renewal at the end of the previous season.

Jennifer Morrison, the protagonist in the struggle of good to prevail over evil, was offered a renewal.
When she refused, this year, she said that she had sacrificed any personal life
for the past six years, and she wanted to have time for a life with relatives family and friends in it again.
So it was time to bow out of the show.

Nearly a half-dozen familiar actors have now ended their tenures on "Once Upon A Time,"
some by choice, some by the showrunners' choice.

This past month, Paris hosted a Once Upon A Time fan convention with a number of the returning actors
(and a few, like Emile de Ravin's Belle, who do not return although she would have preferred to).
Robert Carlyle's characteristic blunt forthrightness,
in answering fans' questions about the developments in the story,
has left him a little bit vulnerable.
He admitted that he has had some hard disagreements, verbal ones, with at least one of the showrunners who control the story/plot.
And he opined that some of the story details had become "silly" and "stupid."

Up to now Carlyle has been the consummate professional in public,
insisting on saying tactful and encouraging things about the show.
Now his contract has been renewed, and he is speaking his mind.

Oh, and the show is Friday evening instead of Sunday evening now.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Sep 17 - 07:58 PM

Friday night is Once Upon A Time broadcast night now.
For the previous six seasons they had the Wonderful World of Disney slot
(that tells you how old I am)
on Sunday evenings, when the whole family could watch.

The seventh season premiere on ABC is Friday October 6.
Filming has expanded out from Vancouver to Seattle.
There is a highway overpass in Seattle with a sculpture of a troll underneath,
and that is going into some of the shots.

The first episodes will transition out of the little port town
to which all the fairy-tale characters were banished through the curse.

A new curse has thrown the remaining fairy-tale characters
(such as Colin O'Donoghue's Captain Hook)
into an urban setting in which they are all mixed up
with non-cursed, non-fairy-tale urban dwellers.

And there is a new child actor on the show, with
"the heart of the believer"
and the Once Upon A Time storybook.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 07:43 PM

Gabrielle Anwar is one of the newcomer actors to OUAT.
She has always entertained and interested me.
So naturally she is one of the villains.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 02:14 PM

It's tomorrow night!


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 05:49 PM

A big old Rumplestiltskin episode tonight.
This could be a complicated hour, as there are multiple personae here:

The full-on Rumplestiltskin, strenuous makeup, costume, and all,
from the Fairy-Tale Land scenario.

The Storybrooke, Maine pawnshop owner Mister Gold,
wearing close-fitted Armani suits
and walking with a cane.

Weaver, the plainclothes detective in Hyperion Heights.

Robert Carlyle plays all three of these.

And tonight ...
THE DAGGER RETURNS.
Stuff happens when the dagger shows up!


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Oct 17 - 12:00 PM

So, without too many spoilers:

Mister Gold, the sharp-dressed eminence grise of Storybrooke,
has been put away like the disguise he was.

Rumplestiltskin had the notion of
living with Belle without the dagger.
I won't say how,
but he ended up
surviving with the dagger without Belle. NOT what he wanted.

This episode was especially worthwhile
because it pointed at engrossing future developments.

The new Alice-in-Wonderland character
(also under an amnesiac curse)
is a shot in the arm for this show. You cannot look away when she shows up.

And...where is Rumple's dagger anyway?


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 06:39 PM

In my opinion,
Gabrielle Anwar's evil-villainess makeup is GHASTLY,
but who cares what I think!

In interviews, Anwar says she is having so much fun playing a bad guy.
That's a common refrain from actors who get these parts.

Lana Parrilla, one of the original cast members,
spent the first six seasons
being Snow White's Evil Queen
and going through a purgatorial redemption process
so that she could be something more than the heavy / the bad guy.
Now she is playing one of the savior / hero types
and HER makeup has changed to play up her beauty, which is considerable.

Oh, I keep forgetting:
Gabrielle Anwar plays Cinderella's wicked stepmother.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Nov 17 - 12:34 PM

Hyperion Heights, a fictional neighborhood
of a fictional Seattle, Washington,
is the latest "amnesia curse" setting in this show,
now in its seventh season.

The Fairy-Tale-Land characters are all mixed up with
everyday-world people, which was not the case in
"Storybrooke, Maine", where the first season opened.

One of the creepiest things about the Hyperion-Heights iteration
of Cinderella's wicked stepmother,
is the situation of the stepmother's two natural daughters.
One is not the favorite and she is her wicked mother's "go-fer."

The favorite is dead and laid out in an ornate coffin.
I don't recall THAT from the Cinderella story.

The Wicked Stepmother (actor Gabrielle Anwar)
has retrieved the coffin, all the way to her headquarters as
a big urban developer/landlord [think Madam Trump].
The previous episode ended with
Wicked Stepmother, the ornate coffin,
and a mysterious woman magically taken captive.
The live captive appears to be a Fairy Tale Land denizen
but has not been identified.
Wicked Stepmother is ranting and raving about how
the captive woman is required to resurrect her daughter.

I mean, yuck.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Nov 17 - 05:23 PM

How much longer can this go on?

Robert Carlyle has very little to do as a plainclothes detective named Weaver.
No more Mister Gold.
Precious little Rumple.

Alice in Wonderland gets weirder with every episode.
We'll see ...


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Dec 17 - 09:31 PM

The mid-season finale is next Friday, December 15.

I skipped a bunch of episodes and I'm glad I did --
they have been building the premise too slowly for my taste.

Dropped in tonight, and FINALLY stuff is happening.

I would feel bad about spoiling where this is all going,
so hints will have to suffice.

If you watched that first season, you will recall
that there was a wrenching parent-child development, which came to a head
in time for the season finale.

A similar heart-breaker transpired tonight,
and it only took half the season to get there.
Now the question they ask every season arises:
Can True Love's Kiss do what nothing else can?

The stakes are compounded this time,
because there are parent-child relationships all over the place.

We know who Alice-in-Wonderland's father is.
We know who Henry's daughter is.
The wicked green witch Zelena, with her daughter, are coming back.
Rapunzel has a daughter.
Cinderella lost her natural parents.
And the Wicked Stepmother's spooky captive
seems to be the spider at the center of the web.

What made me especially happy tonight
was to see the shady detective Weaver
-- Rumplestiltskin's present iteration --
finally admitting to the good cop Rogers
-- Captain Hook's present iteration --
that he needs his help.

Now we just need bar owner "Roni",
who already knows that she is Regina,
to come to the rescue,
and we'll have us a big old showdown. Next week.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Feb 18 - 08:15 PM

This is the seventh season of "Once Upon A Time" at ABC network television,
and the announcement is now official:
the seventh season is the last season.

As far as network broadcasting goes,
"Once Upon A Time" is now at mid-season.
There were a bunch of shows in autumn,
with a mid-season finale in December.
The big reveal concerned a coven of witches.
For Lana Parilla's Regina, and for her son Henry,
there were some very personal concerns there.

But Rumplestiltskin and Captain Hook
-- in their City of Seattle personae as plainclothes detectives --
had a limited amount of things to connect them
to the witches and their carryings-on.

So the remainder of Season Seven is now being shot/filmed,
with a number of the episodes all ready for broadcast
and a few more still getting prepared.

With today's announcement that this season is the final season,
and the season finale will be the end of the show
(broadcast date in early May 2018),
all the press releases and interviews
center around the two showrunners who often write episodes
and who supervise a bunch of additional writers.

I have yet to see interviews with the actors.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 11:16 AM

Rumplestiltskin is back in his cage --
I mean, in the magically warded jail cell --
in full wavy wig, green makeup, black fingernails,
and Commedia dell'Arte gesticulations,
on this coming Friday's episode.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 07:26 PM

Last week,
we had Captain Hook and Rumplestiltskin confronting each other
through the bars of Rumple's jail cell;
actors Colin O'Donoghue and Robert Carlyle, respectively,
are the best of friends in real life
so they enjoy being cutthroat enemies on camera.

And it was a big moment for Regina, the reformed Evil Queen,
when she and the "truest believer," this season's valiant child,
joined forces, having awakened from the curse amnesia,
to protect her adopted grown son Henry.

So tonight was going to further the plot -- and somewhere,
tonight's episode IS furthering the plot --
but here in eastern Massachusetts,
the ABC station has bumped OUAT out of its Friday night slot this week
with a special news program about
what legalized medical marijuana will mean to
the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

Hope the rest of youse enjoy the show.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Apr 18 - 10:27 PM

Just viewed "Breadcrumbs"
in which the Hansel and Gretel fairy tale
goes very dark.
And next week's episode,
two murderers are going to face off,
and innocent lives are in peril as well.

I think I will not watch next week.
Wait till the week after.
Read the online recaps.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Apr 18 - 03:44 PM

Robert Carlyle's next gig:
the dear old Beeb
is doing an Edwardian makeover
of H. G. Wells' War of the Worlds.

Carlyle plays a scientist.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Apr 18 - 09:53 PM

Well, on or near 9 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
the latest (7 x 17) episode of Once Upon A Time
had two murderers face to face,
and we were just about to see which would die and which would survive.

Then Trumplestiltskin came on the air about Syria.
And in order to find out the conclusion of the OUAT episode,
we Oncers had to take to the internet and look for
online updates.

I rather think every household watching ABC network at that instant
was a little unhappy that it was Trumplestiltskin,
rather than Rumplestiltskin.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 11 May 18 - 09:43 PM

This is the final month of 'Once Upon A Time' on network television.
Of course there are other ways to watch.
I think Netflix has the show. There may be other streaming/internet arrangements.

We just got the first part of the two-part grand finale;
the final part is next week on the 18th of May.

Since a magical final conflict is in order,
and the contest is between good and evil, hope and despair,
the storyline is making the most of actor Robert Carlyle.

So now there are two of him in any given scene simultaneously:
the Dark One, which is full-on frizzed wig, hideous facial makeup,
fairy-tale clothes, and Commedia dell'Arte body language
with a hint of a Scots brogue;
and a real-life-looking Carlyle in blue jeans, leather jacket,
and short hair leftover from playing Begbie in T2 last summer,
which is the repentant Rumplestiltskin seeking redemption.

In the final hour next week, on ABC TV,
we get Snow White, Prince Charming, Grumpy if not other dwarves,
and a last look at Storybrooke and its residents.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 May 18 - 02:11 PM

Colin O'Donoghue, cast on the OUAT show as Captain Hook,
said in an interview released today
that the show let him keep his pirate costume,
from the leather trousers
to the enormous black overcoat
which weighs between fifty and sixty pounds.

And the hook, one presumes.
Poor O'Donoghue had to climb a giant beanstalk,
in one episode,
using that darned hook, which was harder than it looked.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 May 18 - 11:27 AM

Robert Carlyle, I suspect,
is going to get a big meaty ol' death-and-dying scene
for his Rumplestiltskin character.
He may even be resurrected afterwards.
OUAT has been like that.
Of course, I will watch it all on Friday.

In real time,
Carlyle is playing a character-actor supporting role
in the BBC's remake of HG Wells' War of the Worlds, shooting now.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 May 18 - 11:53 AM

Well, Rumplestiltskin is no more,
and "Once Upon A Time" is finally finale-ied. The End.

Good Rumple/Gold/Weaver had his confrontation with
the Dark One, Rumplestiltskin the Crocodile.
Both played by Robert Carlyle.
And one of them, the one with a heart,
in the ultimate sacrifice
gifted his own beating heart to someone whose need was greater.
A dying father was reunited, hale and hearty, with his daughter;
with Rumplestiltskin's heart inside of him.
The heartless Dark One, with good Rumple dead and heartless as well,
had no further tie to life and crumbled to smoke and ashes.

And she who was once the Evil Queen
became the Good Queen,
crowned by Snow White and Prince Charming themselves.
So she got a Second Chance, and in so doing,
a Happy Ending that was happy for everybody else.

Emma Swan's appearance was truly tiny, but it counted.
and ... that's all, folks.


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: MMario
Date: 19 May 18 - 12:02 PM

spoilers much? (kidding, it doesn't bother me; though I haven't watched the last episode yet)


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jun 18 - 03:52 PM

It looks as if
Australia (Sydney, to be precise)
is now showing
Season Seven (final season) of Once Upon A Time
on network television.

I recommend Season Seven
if only for Alice in Wonderland, she's a cracker!


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Jul 18 - 12:26 PM

Can you all see the photographs in this
Behind the Scenes of Once Upon A Time feature?


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Subject: RE: BS: TV: 'Once Upon A Time' on ABC
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Jul 18 - 09:06 AM

The photos in the previous link --

I finally saw them online;
but I had to get out of Microsoft Internet Explorer to do so,
which is odd.
Saw them on Mozilla Firefox.


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