BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter

Subject: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 08:33 AM

How can we trounce Trump's Twitter tripe?   (say 3 times)

We could buy it. It would cost between 14 to 24 billion. It is now 14 but a bid to buy a publicly owned corporation always raises the price.
Zuckerberg could afford it. Who else?

Here is the 'beauty part'. Buy it and ban Trump.

Ban him no matter how many times he tries to log in as himself or others.


Why do this?
There is no other comparable platform or alternative for Donald.
In fact yesterday he scared our gnarly generals in the Pentagon when he tweeted about the military - at first they suspected and feared the tweets were a preamble or declaration of WAR with North Korea.
Yes in some ways we would be doing him and Republicans a favor but the good may out weighs the bad.

Could a consortium of average people collectively buy Twitter for this purpose? Could Trump buy it for spite? Would Russia help him buy it?


Any or all Trump related comments are welcome
Maybe a consolidation of all Trump threads could begin.




Its curious how my wife and I woke up with this same twitter thought this morning.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: DMcG
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 08:48 AM

My first thought was it may breach first amendment rights, but since that starts "Congress shall make no law" and congress would not be involved I doubt if a legal challenge to such ban could succeed on those grounds. However there may be parallels with clubs etc which might set a precident. You need to reserve a few million for a good lawywr.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 09:05 AM

Who else would you like to ban?
It wouldn't stop with Mr Duck would it?


If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. Orwell

That goes for you as well as Trump, or, nobody

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 09:46 AM

Using Capitalism to defeat autocratic rulers has worked before. (USSR)
Outbid the bastard like we outspent the USSR in the cold war.

I'd like to watch Trump struggle in anguish as he tried to log in.

When an autocrat turns America into a land of men instead of a land of laws, when a dictator puts himself above all law, when a King decrees himself the sole seat of Justice, when a President goes crazy but is protected by cruel corrupt men devoted to avarice,
other means may be used to regain the liberty that was lost.

This idea is akin to killing Goebbels in 1933 before the worst can happen. The tool for propaganda silenced and removed from Hitler's grasp, the radio broadcasts of shared hate turned off. Only Brietbart, Fox News and Nuremberg like rallies would remain.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 09:49 AM

The President cannot unilaterally declare war.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 09:55 AM

That is insightful Shakey but the "you" you speak of is not me but the people having a voice as in an election. An election still determined by cash but from the people.

The money we spend on pets is way over 60 billion.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 09:55 AM

And you're the one to decide are you Donuel?

Why don't you begin with Mudcat (it'll be cheaper) and you can ban all the people you don't like; would it still be worth coming to debate?

Oh and you'd better buy it quickly before someone else does and bans you.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 09:57 AM

Missiles can be launched in as little as 7 minutes.

And how many wars have we had without Congress declaring war?

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 10:05 AM

As in a satellite delay... Once again Shakey that is perfectly insightful but the "you" you speak of is not me but the people having a voice as in an election. A popular vote we can win yet again.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 10:13 AM

JS Mill On Liberty:

"The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error."

I'll leave it there

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 10:15 AM

I have heard the phrase that its a bit like putting your money where your mouth is. Better minds than mine can determine if this can be done with a bitcoin revolution or if this idea even has redeeming value.

If I had a seat at the shadow government table I would probably already have real time emergency editorial power over Trump's most dangerous tweets.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 10:27 AM

ol'John Stewart is a distant cousin on my Moms side if you count his brothers kids. I should set aside my personal satisfaction at the notion of telling Donald to shut the ef up and him actually doing so.

Many sins have been committed under the heading of National Security but it can be finally used for good in this situation.
No one feels good about being dead over holding lofty ideals compared to being alive by buying a small piece of Twitter.

Besides there was no instant Twitter in a mad mans hand in John Stewart Mill's day. Nor is it imposing absolute silence.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 10:35 AM

Shakey the sight of a Supreme Court with 9 Scalias grinning back at you would be scary would it not? That is the problem with originalism.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 10:49 AM

I don't know, Don, Twitter helped make him possible and it could be the rope that hangs him as well.

P.S. Check the spelling on the name of your famous ancestor.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 11:22 AM

Flaming flowers that brightly blaze
Swirling clouds in violet haze
are mirrored in eyes of black and blue.
Now colors change their hue
Morning fields of amber grain
Weathered faces lined in pain
All set aflame with fission's heat
All from a vengeful tweet

not me

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 11:22 AM

Similar point made by Thomas More in "A Man for All Seasons"

This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast--man's laws, not God's--and if you cut them down...d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake."
― Robert Bolt,

I'll give Mr Duck his freedom of speech 'cause I want mine.

"I disapprove of what he says, but I will defend to the death of my battery his right to say it"

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 11:29 AM

If you want to worry about twitter, worry about this from today, after this thread started

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 11:31 AM

not me I could have told you Donuel

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 11:33 AM

OK Skakey you're getting to me in an absolutist POV but do see my thought.

gillymore I am sure it was one of my moms white lies.
She also spoke of Jay Gould.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 11:46 AM

Of course I see the reason why you would want this, just asking you to count to ten.

and yes, I'm pretty absolutist on this subject, for which I won't apologise but it's difficult to be nuanced without buggering about with html all day

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 12:08 PM

I reason. So it would seem that 20 billion would serve the people better elsewhere. I bend to your will sir.


You did have to quote one of my instructed role models to do so.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Shakey
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 12:20 PM

Was it eric? Anyway let my buy you a ☕

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 01:18 PM

eric the half a bee? no it was John.
Also there is the argument that Twitter harms Trump as is.
Having emergency psych moderation of his tweets via the 25th amendment would still be a crucial 7 second Defense Dept. asset to defend against our own President.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 17 - 09:11 PM

Acquaintances in the Company liked my idea and are now crowd sourcing to buy Twitter and ban/censor Trumps most dangerous unbalanced hate and WAR TWEETS.

http://mashable.com/2017/08/23/valerie-plame-donald-trump-twitter/#Vi3ho4W_zaqu


Ideals are lofty goals but preventing a nuclear war is loftier.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 17 - 09:22 PM

http://mashable.com/2017/08/23/valerie-plame-donald-trump-twitter/#Vi3ho4W_zaqu

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Aug 17 - 10:48 PM

Twounce Twump's Twitter Twipe? Well, we could twy....

Seems to me, his use of Twitter for official communications, is far worse than Hillary's use of a private email server while she was Secretary of State.

Banning transgender soldiers by Twitter? Threatening North Korea by Twitter???

Lock him up!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Jeri
Date: 24 Aug 17 - 11:01 PM

Link to the gofundme campaign by Valerie Plame to buy Twitter

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 03:51 AM

Ok, I read that fundraiser page.
It seems they want to buy Twitter just to silence Trump.
But who will hold the control, and where will they stop?

"First they came for the semi-literate presidents, but I was neither, so I kept quiet ..."

Apologies to Niemuller.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 04:00 AM

i think the twitter is the best thing we've got going for us.

its a daily insight into the mind of a complete twat.

one day someone's going to make a fortune publishing a comedy classic called The Twittering of Trump.

perhaps i shouldn't be saying that - he's your president, god knows we've got enough idiots in English politics.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Stu
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 04:31 AM

Let's not trounce Trump's twitter. It's a daily reminder that as a species we have collectively lost the plot. Trump is just one vocal symptom of our self-inflicted malaise of utter ignorance; a particularly inarticulate aide memoir for us all: MUST DO BETTER.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: gillymor
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 07:25 AM

The old saying "give him enough rope to hang himself with" comes to mind so AFAIC let the birdie sing. Trump Jr. has his ass in a sling due to a tweet regarding his Russia meeting and if Donal Jerk Sr. ever winds up in a an impeachment proceeding and the consequential Senate trial some of his tweets will no doubt come back to bite him in the hind quarters as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 04:59 PM

Nigel that was FUNNY

Suppose Trump was made to actually obey Twitters rules.
He might have a tantrum and stroke out.
Would the Trump family sue Valerie Plame?

To Tweet my own horn I will point out that this Idea was posted by me a month before others began to think about it. Psychic? Naw, I just see the obvious coming from farthest away.

Subject: RE: BS: Trounce Trump's Twitter
From: EBarnacle
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 07:51 PM

Re: Shakey's 11:29 post. If you have not read or seen the play King Charles III, do so ASAP. The bill they are discussing mirrors the play amazingly. The crisis occurs because the king has the integrity to try to protect Freedom of the Press from Parliament.

I'd rather be uncomfortable than censored. I hate what he says but I will defend to the death his right to Tweet it . . . until he steps completely beyond the rules of usage.