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BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)

MikeL2 18 Dec 18 - 02:43 PM
Raggytash 18 Dec 18 - 03:49 PM
MikeL2 19 Dec 18 - 02:46 PM
Steve Shaw 19 Dec 18 - 02:59 PM
Raggytash 19 Dec 18 - 03:11 PM
Steve Shaw 19 Dec 18 - 06:29 PM
Steve Shaw 19 Dec 18 - 09:00 PM
MikeL2 20 Dec 18 - 02:47 PM
MikeL2 20 Dec 18 - 02:58 PM
Steve Shaw 21 Dec 18 - 07:41 PM
Raggytash 22 Dec 18 - 12:25 PM
MikeL2 23 Dec 18 - 02:28 PM
MikeL2 23 Dec 18 - 02:45 PM
Steve Shaw 23 Dec 18 - 03:57 PM
Dave the Gnome 26 Dec 18 - 02:14 AM
Senoufou 26 Dec 18 - 03:38 AM
Senoufou 26 Dec 18 - 03:58 AM
MikeL2 26 Dec 18 - 02:29 PM
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Dave Sutherland 27 Dec 18 - 03:37 AM
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MikeL2 28 Dec 18 - 10:02 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 18 Dec 18 - 02:43 PM

Hi Raggy
Completely agree with you. Jose just had to go. He does so with 18 million smackers in his pocket.

In a ironic way Liverpool did us a favour !! They demonstrated to all just how low United have fallen.

The rumours will start who will succeed him. At the moment the view of some is that they will appoint a stand - in manager. Somebody who understands United and what the require. Ole solskjier (sic) has been mentioned. I would prefer Ryan Giggs to work with Michael Carrick to start the re-building. We need a person(s) who can get back to creating    a youth policy as well as re-juvenating the Premier League side.

It won't be quick, there is a lot to do but like most supporters I don't expect miracles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Dec 18 - 03:49 PM

I fear most supporters DO expect miracles. I reckon at least two yeats before we can compete again.

Next thing to do is get rid of Pogba, he still doesn't seem to understand that no one is bigger than the club.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 02:46 PM

Hi Raggy

I think most intelligent supporters know that they have a huge task on their hands.

I think that what they want is to see United start to fight back and show the attacking philosophy that used to be in United;s DNA.

ole Solskjaer has accepted the Caretaker job with an immediate start.
He will have Mike Phelan, Fergie's old right hand man as his partner, and Michael Carrick to help where necessary.There will be a wealth of knowledge of the Club and how they want them to play. And the Club know what they want and will put money into the project.

Solskjaer has something to prove as his only management job in the Premiere League ended up with Cardiff City going down and he got the sack.

This is different though Cardiff were a very poor side and the Club had no money.

I agree that Pogba should go and with him Sanchez if he does'nt start to earn his huge wages and cost to the Club.

It could be interesting.....we wait with baited breath


Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 02:59 PM

"I reckon at least two yeats before..."

WB and Big Ron, perhaps? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 03:11 PM

Local dialect from Eccles Steve, local dialect !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 06:29 PM

D'you know summat, Raggytash, despite all my years in Radcliffe and the fact that there was always a direct bus from Radcliffe to Eccles, I have never been to Eccles. How can that be. What have I missed?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 09:00 PM

Can't agree about Pogba, Mike. He could thrive under a less repressive manager. He did win the World Cup for France, lest we forget. A good gaffer could also bring out the best in Martial and Rashford, who have been very badly served by Mourinho. But I hope that Poch stays at Spurs. After all the good he's done it would be miserable to see him leave. Make Zinedine The Twat your target man!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 20 Dec 18 - 02:47 PM

hi Steve

Eccles cakes ?????

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 20 Dec 18 - 02:58 PM

Hi Steve

I believe that Pogba is a destructive influence to the other players, regardless of his being a member of the France World Cup Team.

Your other points I agree with. Mourinho was not the right type of manager for the likes of Rashford and Martial....and others, Lingard etc.

How the new "regime will progress we will have to wait and see. I think Mike Phelan will be a valuable asset to Ole as indeed will Michael Carrick.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 07:41 PM

Damn tough game at Molineux tonight but Liverpool triumphed yet again, in spite of some sloppy passing at times. I thought Wolves were impressive. They're my barber's favourite team and he has a season ticket, as well as a brilliant Black Country accent, even though he lives in Bude. I really could do with a pre-Christmas haircut but I daren't go near him after tonight. It'll have to wait until the New Year now. Every time I go in for a haircut, he and I set Bude on fire with our animated footie talk. Bloody hoot it is. Merry Christmas, Colin, but, after tonight, tough shit!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Dec 18 - 12:25 PM

A great result for Liverpool today and they were'nt even playing !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 23 Dec 18 - 02:28 PM

Hi Steve

These days I only need a brush and polish !!!

My hairdresser is the daughter of a well known Man City and England player. - some years back mind.

Believe it or not she supports United ??

Yes Liverpool's win over Wolves was hard earned but they look capable of winning the League to me..

Our first game under Ole was a big change for us. We were actually pressing and tackling for the ball. Cardiff were very physical and the ref didn't seem to bother. Rashford was kicked all over the field and
then the ref gave a dubious penalty against the poor guy.

The game was Very good for us but we must keep our heads. Cardiff were not a big test for them but it helped us to get a good start under Ole
Our defence is not good enough to play with the big boys.

Have a great time over the holiday.

All the best.

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 23 Dec 18 - 02:45 PM

Just watched 3 great games this afternoon.

1. Rangers v St Johstone. good lively game . the Saints were on top for most of the game but Rangers won in the very last minute,

Villa V Leeds. Villa took the first half 2-0 but Leeds cut it back to 2-2 and won the game with the last kick of the ball to take them to the top of the League.......sorry Sen.

Everton v Spurs

An open high scoring game with the toffees taking an early lead. It was short-lived as the Everton keeper making another howler allowing the persistent Son to score in an open net.

Spurs then overran a plucky Everton side to run out 6-2 winners to only one point behind Chelsea. Dark Horses ???

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Dec 18 - 03:57 PM

Man U did look a lot better. Playing nicely for each other and for the boss. Let's hope it doesn't turn into a honeymoon...

I've always really liked Andros. A bloke with attitood. Whst a bloody goal. Pick him, Gareth!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 02:14 AM

Eeeeeee. Number 6 bus. Used to go through Swinton and past Heaton Park as well. I remember all the blokes having to get off and push up Rainscough Brow one hot Sunday.

Now, back to the footie....


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 03:38 AM

Husband has laid out every item of clothing he owns with Norwich City colours/logo, and is trying to decide which ones to wear to the match this afternoon. He's terrified he'll forget his ticket, so it's safe in the zipped pocket of his jacket. He's nearly bouncing of the walls with excitement.
I just hope the Canaries bet Nottingham, or he'll be coming home dejected!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 03:58 AM

That should say 'beat' not 'bet'.
Hope Pukki scores lots of goals. Norwich are second now, and if this continues they may go up for next Season.
Husband will explode!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 02:29 PM

Hi Sen

Phew !!! That was a close one !!! It looked as if Notts Forest had won

especially when Notts. went 3-1 ahead in the last minute but The Canaries rallied and scored twice to get a thrilling draw.

Football at it's best.

Hope your husband enjoyed the game.

Regards

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 02:39 PM

Thank you Mike. Yes, 3-3, and last-minute goals (seems to be Norwich's habit lately)
He had an absolutely brilliant time. Was seated between two slightly older couples who were very kind and friendly and he was on his feet most of the time, yelling and shouting (he was a bit hoarse when he got home!)

He found a good place to park the car and walk to the stadium.

He also met a friend of ours, a Gambian chap, who was an acting extra security guard (he normally works at the Airport) He hugged him and they were delighted to see each other.
It was a good match with six goals to watch wasn't it?
I reckon he'll be going again very soon. He really loved it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 27 Dec 18 - 03:37 AM

Senoufou - can your husband tell us NOTTINGHAM FOREST supporters where the 6-7 minutes of added time came from other than the referee's obvious bias towards Norwhch?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 27 Dec 18 - 03:54 AM

Oh dear Dave, I'll ask him. (He's in the shower at the moment)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Dec 18 - 08:07 PM

Pleasure to see Man U playing with the cloud suddenly lifted, and to see Pogba coming into his own. But look at Liverpool. Just a few months to go before Raggytash stops asking that question of his...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Dec 18 - 10:02 AM

Hi Steve

I went to Old Trafford fot the Huddersfield game. Got a ticket at the last minute.

Yes United are playing a much better style since Qle came. Pogba played as if he was interested and after 3 assists in the previous game he scorred two great goaals. I hope Ole can keep him happy because when he tries he is an outstanding player, Maybe Lucacou and Sanchez can follow suit.
Mind you the way that Rashford, Martial and Lingard are gelling they will struggle to get a game.

The defence needs stiffening though before we can be confident. How about letting us have Virgil.....lol ???

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Dec 18 - 02:29 PM

Hi Steve

At the moment there does not seem to be any way of stopping this Liverpool side.

Man City are 6 points back and are a pale shadow at the moment. I could be just a blip but at the moment they look unsettled.

Spurs are having a great run and could be a danger if they can keep this up. Arsenal are a dark horse and could mount an attack on the top. They play Liverpool tomorrow so it may gives us a sign.

But at the moment you would have to fancy Liverpool.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 28 Dec 18 - 04:16 PM

Well, I asked husband about the extra time and he felt it was fair. And as he pointed out, either team could have used the extra time in which to score goals!

We've been over to Carrow Road this morning to get him another ticket, this time for Norwich City v Portsmouth (Jan 5th). The lady got him a seat quite near where he was on Boxing Day.
He can't wait!

And a lady in our village had been at the Nottingham match. She and her husband have season tickets. She'd saved a lovely thick programme especially for my husband, and came round to our house especially.

He thinks he's in heaven now.
It's lovely to see him so excited.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 29 Dec 18 - 01:38 PM

Great football from Liverpool so far, Arsenal have a veritable Everest to climb and after Tottenhams defeat today Liverpool seem to be in a very favourable position. Still a long way to go but they look good.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 29 Dec 18 - 02:03 PM

Aaaaagh! The Rams beat the Canaries 4-3 today!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Dec 18 - 07:51 PM

The Man Citeh game could be the one that defines the season. Be very afraid, the Pallid Blues!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 03:42 AM

Senoufou - had it been anyone but Derby I would have called it poetic justice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 03:59 AM

:) Dave! But I imagine seven goals in one match was very exciting to watch, and a knife-edge result.
We got husband some thermal long-johns for the match on Saturday. He was blue with cold after the Notts game.
The match doesn't start until 5pm, and it will be very chilly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 02:26 PM

Hi Steve

The City v Liverpool game will be a real cracker. The outcome for either side is huge. I don't think it will be a decoder for the Title yet but a loss for City will make life very difficult. Liverpool will continue in their inimitive way.

City will be a hard nut to crack but after a couple of surprise losses the will do all they can to make up - so Pool beware. the presure will be on !!

Cheers

Mike

Happy New Year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 02:32 PM

Hi Sen

Great to hear about you Husband's interest in The Canaries.
I was keeping a watch on the Derby game. Another high scoring game for both teams. Pity the floodlights went out at a key period. Could have affected Norwich's game.

Regards to you both and Happy New year to yo both.

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 02:38 PM

Hi raggy

I agree with your assessment of the League Title.

I watched Arsen get murdered by Liverpool. it was worse than Man Uniyed's hammering.!!!

Arsenal are now only 3 points in front of Man United and I hope our new form will enable them to catch Arsenal and either Chelsea or Spurs who are faltereing as the pressure goes on.

Cheers
Happy New Year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 02:47 PM

Hello there Mike!

We only heard about the floodlights problem from our Angolan African friend at Tesco this morning. He serves on the fresh fish counter, and told us all about it. He's a ManU supporter, and he and husband reckon things are already looking up for them now that Mourinho's gone.

I got a very nice but rather fishy hug from him!

We both wish you a very happy New Year

Senoufou and Ibrahima


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 04:40 PM

Senoufou, does that mean he was black and blue!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 04:45 PM

Hahahahaaaagh Raggytash! Yes, he was. On our wedding day (many many years ago) we parked the car and had to walk quite a way across a pedestrian bridge to the Registry Office. It was November and bitterly cold. Husband was proudly wearing his new white shirt and natty wedding suit; he hadn't long been in the UK. As we walked along I noticed he was getting paler and paler. His nose was almost white. I was beginning to wonder if he wasn't African at all but an imposter!
We still laugh about it now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 01 Jan 19 - 09:43 AM

Hi Sen

weddings affect people like that.

We had a humorous moment in the Registry Office where we got wed.
My wife's middle name is Una. When we were entering our vows the Woman Registrar Asked me " Do take ......Una Stubbs to be your Lawful wedded
Wife ? I quickly replied " Yes Please ". It lightened up the ceremony somewhat. !!!!

Regards

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 Jan 19 - 09:58 AM

Hahahaha Mike, that's so funny! Una Stubbs was very attractive wasn't she?
(This is awful thread drift, I'm sorry)

Before our wedding ceremony started, the Registrar took me aside for a private talk. He said he was duty bound to point out to me that Muslim men could have several wives, even four of them, but only one could be a legal wife, and was I aware of this?

I giggled and told him I'd already planned for that. One would do the cooking, another the cleaning and the third the ironing. This would leave me free to relax on the sofa. He didn't quite know what to say, but I winked and he smiled...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 01 Jan 19 - 01:46 PM

Hi Sen

Very funny !!

I can't see Una Stubbs doing any of those chores for me...

To get back on thread, I watched Leeds v Notts Forest. It was a strange ( but exciting ) game.

First right at the start Leeds gave away a stupid goal. Then Leeds had a man sent off. Then despite only having 10 men , they went ahead 2-1.
they looked to be controlling the game when another error let Forest equalise. Forest then scored 2 more to run out 4-2 winners.

This should make you and Ibrahima very happy as Norwich earned a draw.

Saturday's game against Portsmouth is in the FA Cup. These are usually exciting games soIbrahima should enjoy it.

Ragards

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 03 Jan 19 - 11:10 AM

Well tonight is the BIG game so far. If Liverpool win the title is theirs to lose, if city win the game is on again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 19 - 01:13 PM

I must not, will not, cannot be contacted between eight and ten tonight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Jan 19 - 02:39 PM

Hi

Last night watched Man United beat Newcastle 2 - 0.

Quite a good game to watch especially for Man U fans.

Newcastle were very physical - ( dirty ) and poor Rashford was targetted by the Newcastle defence. The referee , one of the top buys ignored most of the fouls two of which should have been penalties.

United found it difficult to penetrate a strong Newcastle drfence. But ironically it was Rashford who broke through. His superb free kick was funbled by the Keeper and Lucacu was first to the ball and he netted easily. A great move featuring Pogba and Sub Sanchez presented Rashford with the chance to put the game to bed,

Much to do yet, especially with the defence which was easily stretched by Newcastle.

Cheers

Mike

PS Jusy setting up for the big game !! Won't invade Steve. Best of luck.

This is going to be a Biggy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 03 Jan 19 - 05:32 PM

Fascinating game, the best team won ....... just.

At least the rest of us can look forward to the remainder of the season, had Liverpool won as I said earlier the title was theirs to lose.

I still expect Liverpool to win the title they'll just have to fight a little harder.

Not a bad thing for those of us who's clubs may, if they're lucky, get into the top four.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 19 - 06:57 PM

Well I'd concede that City edged it tonight. Bernardo Silva played a cracker, Sané was deadly at times and Fernandinho, as ever, was imperious. In fact, I think he was the difference. One of the best on the planet. He neutralised Liverpool's midfield to such an extent that the front three were isolated for much of the game, starved of supply. As good as Gini is, and he is, there's a big need for Jurgen either to groom an attacking midfield playmaker or buy one. There was an an awful lot of square passing going on when Liverpool were in possession, and you simply can't give a defence like City's all that time to get in shape. But the skills and the tactics on display put these two teams stratospheres above everyone else in the league. Gutsy stuff!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Jan 19 - 09:04 AM

Hi

Yes a great game to watch - two top teams showing why they are up there.

I think the result was just about right.

had someone offered Jurgen that at this stage of the competition

Liverpool would be top by 4 points he would have bit their arm off !!

My slant is that if Liverpool play like they have been They will be easily able to hold the position without dropping any more points.

But one of the fascinations of sport is that you never can tell what will happen.

This was the best game I have seen in a long time......well done to both teams.

cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Jan 19 - 01:28 PM

Well, he'll be off tomorrow to Carrow Road wearing his new long-johns under his warmest tracksuit trousers, and all his Canaries gear. It starts at 5.30pm, and the weather forecast isn't too bad.

3rd round of the FA Cup.
Wonder if Portsmouth will beat us? Have they got a good reputation/team?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Jan 19 - 02:37 PM

Hi Sen

When it is cold we always used to wrap up and we would always have a supply of "Fisher-men's Friend,".

That was some years ago cos my Son now has treated me to seasons ticket for the last several years, he also has a contact where he can get tickets to the big games. These are usually in boxes.

Portsmouth are a top club but over the past few years they have steadily moved down and found themselves in lowly League 2 but are now in League 1 and are doing quite well. On paper Norwich should have no problems but the FA Cup is notorious for upsets.

Hope every thing goes well.


Regards

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Jan 19 - 03:02 PM

Ah, thanks for that Mike. Most interesting. I'll tell him what you said. Fingers crossed!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 05 Jan 19 - 06:00 PM

Portsmouth scored at the very last second of extra time. Final score Norwich 0 Portsmouth 1.
But apparently it was a very exciting match, and husband is learning the words to 'On the Ball City', which are projected on to a screen.
His Gambian mate was on duty as Security again.
Long-johns were successful. Only his nose was frozen, but it usually is in winter!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 09:10 AM

Hi

Sen

It was a pity that Norwich had a man sent off after only 10 minutes. It meant that they had to play with a man short for almost all of the came. In the circumstances it was a great performance to go right to the end. It is hard to take going out of the Cup like that but in the great scheme of things, the Club will not be too upset . I think that they will see promotion to the Premiere League as the first objective.

Sounds like your husband enjoyed the game regardless of the score.

I have now got my fingers crossed for Norwich in their aim to get promotion.

Regards

Mike


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