BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 10:24 AM

I apologise to all, apart from Keith who deserves it, for having to put up with my language above. I shall desist forthwith and restrict myself to non offensive responses. I still have the same views about Keith and his narcissistic personality disorder but you should not all have to put up with my frustration at his devious and malicious ways.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 12:26 PM

"Is that how you see me?"
A screaming meglonmanic killer with an Oedipus complex - that just about sums it up
"I am flattered."
So you should be - that's fairly mild compared to the bad things I attribute to you
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:14 PM

Really weird stuff lads.

Strangely, after all that weirdness, you have not addressed one single point that has been made on the thread subject.

Will you?
Can you?
Clearly, no.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:16 PM

Really Keith stuff too. See other thread for response.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:19 PM

Funny thing is, while Keith was away I hadn't really noticed.. but now he's back, I certainly have...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:22 PM

I seem to recall that 40 conservative MP's had had allegations made against them, as opposed to 4 Labour MP's. Now if 2 more have been added to the Labour ranks it would still seem to be a far bigger problem within the conservative party.

This point has been totally ignored by some.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:26 PM

Keith - ..a bit like haemoroids...

When they shrink and disappear, I so quickly readjust to normal pain free life,
I'm too busy enjoying the breath of fresh sunny air to even think about missing them..

But then they eventually come back with a vengeance....

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 02:12 PM

Life really is too short lads
Stop persecuting the afflicted - he'll be blaming Corbyn and the Labour Party for that next - he's exhausted everything else
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 04:33 PM

"No-one has found a single fault in anything I have posted..."

What a rather vulgar and largely fraudulent thing to say, Keith. I know it is because Geoffrey Wheatcroft told me so. I also seem to remember a little porkie about only Dublin and the EU wanting a hard border. And what was that about the soaring pound...? And Nigel Farage never lies...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 04:43 PM

Steve,you rascal :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 05:00 PM

I'm trying to help him, Dave. I'm like that tha knows...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 05:34 AM

Steve, you know I refute those years old false accusations.

Do you challenge anything I have posted on this?
If not, why all the abuse?
If you do, identify it for discussion.

Why can you people not engage in civil discussion?

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 05:41 AM

It is you that cannot engage in civil discussion Keith. It was summed up perfectly before

all your contributions below the line these days are agenda-laden pure poison

Everyone knows it and anyone with any sense is no longer falling for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 07:40 AM

TIME FOR ONE OF THESE, I THINK !
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 07:41 AM

That is not true though.
You people just say things like that to justify not replying to me, when the fact is that you have no reply.
I have said nothing here that has not been said by Labour insiders.
How can you object to that?
Do you not sympathise with those victims of sexual harassment and bullying?
Should they not be heard? They never would be if it was up to you people.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 08:34 AM

"Do you not sympathise with those victims of sexual harassment and bullying?"
You seem to be inacpable of distinguishing between "sympathising" and "cynically using" as is your wont
Abused children to besmirch Muslims, a few Traveller criminals to denigrate the entire community, "brainwashed" Irish children to smear the Irish people.
You have even blamed the British electorate for the Government's bribing the DUP
Each time, when challenged, you scurry behind somebody else and blame them for your obnoxiously inhuman views
You have been answered here over and over again and all you can respond with is denials - if you claim otherwise you are lying - as you do frequently
Your message is plain - if the rich and famous do it, then it isn't rape or harassement
Added to which - "Labour bad, Tories, Ukip, the BNP and every other right wing goose-stepper good"
Go find a beer-garden and hold a rally
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 09:08 AM

Jim, I have posted nothing here that any decent person could object to.
If you challenge that, produce a quote.

PFR, I do not share the far left politics of you and your friends.
My posts reflect that, but there is no "poison" in them.
My views are actually mainstream. You will find nothing from me that is not mainstream.
You are the extremists.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 09:12 AM

Don't bother, Jim. Everyone else understands that any organisation that encourages victims of abuse to come forward will always have a high incidence of open and honest public criticism. Those who are not willing to wash their dirty linen in public cannot hide it any longer and, as you have very ably pointed out, are now suffering the consequences of trying to hide their sordid little secrets. You will never change Keith's views. It is really not worth the time and effort.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 09:19 AM

Mor denials and more inhumanity
Your poisonous postings carefully exclude the greatest perpetrators and youe made-up accusations just cover (in this case) the Labour members
You have denbied serial abuse by politiciacians, ignored cover-ups and "lost" research resukts
You blame the victims and not the perpetrators - you virtually have in every single topic we have argued on and have invented and surrounded yourself with an invisible army to misinterpret and distort so you don't have to take responsibility for your obscene and often illegal claims - "it's not me, somebody else told me it was true" (as here)
You refuse to respond to argument, then dishonestly, claim there has been none (as here)
You are a moral mess on a sordid crusade
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 10:09 AM

Dave,
. Those who are not willing to wash their dirty linen in public cannot hide it any longer and, as you have very ably pointed out, are now suffering the consequences of trying to hide their sordid little secrets.

What are you referring to now?
No "sordid secrets" have been revealed to my knowledge. You are making shit up again.

Jim,
Mor denials and more inhumanity
Your poisonous postings.....

More baseless claims about me that you can not substantiate with quotes because they are just more lies.

youe made-up accusations just cover (in this case) the Labour members

I just repeated what Labour insiders themselves have said.

You have denbied serial abuse by politiciacians, ignored cover-ups

I have not. You just lie and lie.
If you are not a filthy liar, quote me doing theses things.

You blame the victims and not the perpetrators -

I have never done that.
More filthy lies from a filthy liar.
If you are not a filthy liar, quote me doing theses things.

You refuse to respond to argument, then dishonestly, claim there has been none (as here)

If that is not a lie, put the argument up again and I promise to respond to it.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 10:19 AM

Don't do it, Jim. If anyone comes up with anything he dislikes it is 'made up shit' yet anything he says is gospel truth. Typical narcissist. He gets off on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 10:23 AM

Keith - what you say is problematic enough to say the least..

But my biggest problem with you, is YOU...

You are an extreme bore.

After putting up with it for too many years I am sick of your obsessive needy spamming and hogging of debates.

You bog down and kill off interesting threads with your incessant over repetitive posts demanding attention for yourself.

I dont agree with excluding and banning members,
but I do think you should have a limit imposed on your daily posting count
[if mudcat tech permits]

Eg, no more than one or two posts per thread per day.

You'd definitely be forced to be more concise and self disciplined.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 10:31 AM

From Liverpool to Frisco a-roving I went .........

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 11:19 AM

Dave,
If anyone comes up with anything he dislikes it is 'made up shit' yet anything he says is gospel truth.

Ha ha ha.
All you have to do is produce it, but you can't.
It is made up shit.

PFR, your friends post far, far more than I do, and most of what I post is a response to what they post.

Some of your rants against Tories are pure poison.
Do you care how boring and tedious that is to normal people?

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 11:25 AM

"Don't do it, Jim."
No intention
I really have had enough of this dick's 'Groundhog Day' shenanigans
"two posts per thread per day."
Somewhat over-generous, in my opinion - but maybe you're into S&M
"From Liverpool to Frisco a-roving I went ........."
Do you know the dirty version of this Kenny?
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 11:35 AM

Keith - I don't have any friends, I'm unsociable - which makes me pretty lousy as a socialist...

My 'rants' against tories are [obviously ? ] a tongue in cheek parody riposte
countering the 'normal' bigoted hostile anti labour/corbyn bollocks
spewed from your sort's 'normal' media channels...

ie.. I'm taking the piss...!!!!!

btw.. What is your normal average mudcat posting count per day...????

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 11:38 AM

Keith, you really don't get it do you? I have no intention of engaging at any level with you apart from with utter contempt and you are really beneath even that. Everyone can see what you are trying to do now and you are a laughing stock.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 11:47 AM

Keith - also.. my 'rants' against tory lies, scandal and corruption are founded on known truth and/or highly plausible rumours..

Unlike so much of the anti labour disinformation & rants that are generated and seeded in the media
by well financed & resourced professional right wing propaganda activists

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 12:22 PM

PFR, I do not speak for any particular media organ, and when I quote from the media I avoid right wing publications.

I leave you to check my posting rate, but remember I am often replying to several people at once.
When I referred to your "friends" I meant those here who have similar political views, i.e. DTG Jim Steve Rag .

Dave you claimed some people relevant to this thread are "suffering the consequences of trying to hide their sordid little secrets"

No such "sordid secrets" have emerged.
You just make shit up, like Jim's whopping lie that there are "proven cases" of rape and paedophilia against "prime ministers and government high-ups." A blatant and whopping lie but only I objected to it.

All you people do is attack me without actually specifying anything I have really, actually said.
Just made up shit and false accusations.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 01:24 PM

Still don't get it then, laughing stock?

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 02:18 PM

You're wasting your time Dave.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 02:40 PM

Dave, Jim's whopping lies make him a laughing stock.
You all ignoring that elephant in the room makes you all laughing stocks.
Your made up claims of "sordid secrets" make you a laughing stock.

I have made no false claims.
I have accurately reported claims emerging from within your party.
I have said nothing remotely laughable and you can not quote anything of mine to criticise.

You have made utter fools of yourselves over this issue.
I have not put a foot wrong.
If that is not the plain and simple truth, quote me.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 02:50 PM

Me, me, me ............... I want some attention !!!

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 02:52 PM

You are right of course, Raggy. His last post proves he is marching to a completely different drum. When even the site management have commented on it and he still cannot see it we may as well just ignore him. Trouble is he tends to linger like a bad smell and one cannot help but spray a little bullshit repellent at times :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 04:29 PM

He's a self obsessed ultra right wing nutter
Leave him alone -0 it might be catching
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 05:07 AM

Dave,
When even the site management have commented on it

Really? When?

I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to.
That is why all your accusations come without quotes.

You can not argue against anything I have actually said, so you lie that I have said things I never have or would.

You resort to ridicule, but I have said nothing ridiculous and you have . Quotes ready if requested.

Oh dear oh dear.
Ha ha ha.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 05:21 AM

You deliberately misquoted Geoffrey Wheatcroft in order to "strengthen" your case, hoping we wouldn't notice, and have never apologised. Please stop saying that we can never refute what you say. You recently said that only Dublin and the EU wanted a hard border. A fib. Yes we can refute and yes we do refute. Stop being rather vulgar and largely fraudulent.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 05:26 AM

I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to.
...
I have said nothing ridiculous

Priceless irony with no idea he is doing it.

I don't think it is catching, Jim, but more and more people are laughing at him I think we need to keep him since the village idiot position was vacated a few months back ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 05:45 AM

He has now abandoned defending his Tory Perve mates and is now happy to talk about himself - I suspect we are the only friends he has
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 05:51 AM

Steve, Wheatcroft was 3 years ago and I did nothing dishonest.
I quoted the disputed passage in full.

On the border issue I linked Dublin and EU together for obvious reasons.
I said only they were threatening a hard border, which was completely true. Our side said not under any circumstances.
You misquoted me again. I said "threatened" not wanted."

Anything on this thread Steve?

Dave,
I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to.
...
I have said nothing ridiculous
Priceless irony with no idea he is doing it.

The truth actually.
That is why you can not produce a single quote.
You lie.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 06:13 AM

I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to.

Lots of people object to lots of things you post.


I have said nothing ridiculous

You just made a ridiculous statement about not posting anything that anyone could object to.

It's gone well beyond different morality etc. You are now living in a Walter Mitty fantasy world where you really believe the things you say. No one else does.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 06:40 AM

Wheatcroft - the Border Issue !!!
He only wants someone to talk to- he doesn't care what
"I have said nothing ridiculous "
All Muslims are "culturally implanted" to have underage sex seems ridiculous enough for me!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 10:51 AM

Liar Dave,
Lots of people object to lots of things you post.

No. No-one can quote anything objectionable.
If you are not lying, quote something now, liar.

You just made a ridiculous statement about not posting anything that anyone could object to.

No. That statement was true.
You make yourself ridiculous by making lying claims you can not substantiate with quotes, liar.

You are now living in a Walter Mitty fantasy world where you really believe the things you say

Unlike Mitty, I can substantiate everything.
You can substantiate nothing because your claims are filthy lies.

If you are not lying, quote me liar.

Liar Jim,
I have never made any statement about "all Muslims."
If I have, quote me liar.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 10:59 AM

If you are not lying, quote me liar.

You said "I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to"

I object to most things you post as do many others so I have told no lies. You are digging yourself deeper and deeper in the doo.

Seemples.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 10:59 AM

"No. No-one can quote anything objectionable.
If you are not lying, quote something now, liar."

I can.. and have done...

I object to the sheer overwhelming amount and frequency you post...!!!!!!!

Like a spoiled toddler bawling it's eyes out for attention in a long super market checkout queue...

I'm the tired bloke with a single item in my basket wishing the stressed and exhausted mother would stuff a bread roll in it's mouth....

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 11:10 AM

Liar Dave,
You said "I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to"

Yes, and that is true.
If it is not, quote something liar.

I object to most things you post as do many others so I have told no lies.

If you were not lying you could quote something, liar.

Go ahead liar. Quote me and state your objection, liar.

Pfr,
I can.. and have done...

You have provided no quote.
You both object to anyone posting views different to your own, but that does not make my posts objectionable.
If that is not true, quote a post that is.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 11:18 AM

Keith - no apology for my candour - you are talking shite...

..and far too much of it...!!!


To satisfy your request for a quote, I'd need to copy and paste at least 90% of the sheer unrestrained quantity of your forum spamming posts...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 11:22 AM

Keith - no apology for my candour - you are talking shite...

Quote me.

To satisfy your request for a quote, I'd need to copy and paste at least 90% of the sheer unrestrained quantity of your forum spamming posts...

Then post one example.
Make it the very worst I have ever made.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 11:23 AM

If you were not lying you could quote something, liar.

You implied that British Pakistanis were more liable to rape young girls. I objected to that.
You implied that Labour party members were more likely to be antisemitic. I objected to that.
You implied that Irish schoolchildren were brainwashed to be anti-English. I objected to that.
You implied that Labour party members were more likely to rape women. I objected to that.

Need I go on? I have objected to every single one of those things and more, as have many people. Yet you say "I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to". A blatant lie.

Feel free to carry on digging. I am happy to keep providing the evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 11:37 AM

Keith - I'm sure you're not thick - but I do wonder why you persist in [deliberately..???] misreading what I write about you...???????

One more time - It's gone beyond caring about what you write..

I object to the total quantity and frequency of your repetitious over elongated forum spamming, thread destroying, utterly boring posts...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Show some self respect and self discipline, and stop flooding mudcat with your obsessive unrestrained keyboard diarrhoea...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!