BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals

Subject: RE: BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Senoufou
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 05:53 PM

I think that many people who demonise those on Benefits, in social housing etc don't actually know anyone among that group. They probably never come across them in their daily lives. It's a good idea to have a chat with anybody at a bus stop, in a McDonald's, in the supermarket checkout queue and so on. I always do, and people always respond. It's a lovely way to listen to someone else and hear their point of view. That way I learned in Asda that a young mum with her child and trolley found it hard to afford groceries, and was struggling. I talk to youngsters and find they're having trouble getting a job. People open up very readily when one is prepared to listen.
Once one views all human beings as equally important and understands their lives a bit, one has no objection to helping those worse off than oneself.

Subject: RE: BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 05:38 PM

The modern capitalist world entitles everyone to a smartphone, a flat-screen telly, a games console and a bottle of booze. You can't give people aspirations then deny them. That isn't how capitalism works. Make them buy the stuff then, preferably, put them into debt to pay for it. All I'd say is that it's a damn sight easier to demonise the guy on benefits with the unjustifiable flat-screen telly than it is to demonise the non-doms and the oligarchs and the offshore Barclay billionaires. That's capitalism too.

Subject: RE: BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Senoufou
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 05:34 PM

Er, I'm well aware of that Steve. Yet even though I vote Conservative, I don't have to agree with every single one of their proposals or policies.
I agree with you Backwoodsman, I have no objection to my hard-earned pension being taxed in order that children might eat. And neither does my minimum-waged toiling husband (I've just asked him!) And he votes Conservative too by the way.

Subject: RE: BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 05:25 PM

Steve, you're right, of course, but there's a lot of noise in the media and on social media about 'parents who have money for fags/booze/mobile phones/yadda yadda, but no money to feed their kids' etc. The usual nasty Daily Fail/Scum/Torygraph bollocks.

Hence my point about not targeting children, no matter what the cause of their poverty might be.

Subject: RE: BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 05:18 PM

Er, it's the Tories doing it, Senoufou...

Subject: RE: BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 04:57 PM

I worked full-time for 49 years - almost 50 - worked my butt off, never claimed Benefits, paid my taxes, paid my own way in the world, still paying my taxes on my pension. I don't begrudge my tax-pounds going to provide children with meals - it's not the fault of the child that his/her family is poor, no matter what the cause of that poverty. Targeting hungry children to finance tax-cuts for corporations and the wealthy is immoral, and those championing it are beneath contempt.

Subject: RE: BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Senoufou
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 04:02 PM

It's come to a sad situation when unfortunate schoolchildren are denied a hot, nourishing meal, probably (as said above) the only one in 24hrs. Of all the things to make cuts on, this is way beyond the realms of the acceptable.
I knew my pupils well when I was teaching, and those on free dinners really did need them.
It's no good accusing their parents of fecklessness. It's the children themselves that matter here.

Subject: RE: BS: Tories buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 03:20 PM

When you've worked fifty years, as I did, you can crow, Bozo. Till then, I suggest you put a sock in it.

How's that D-18, by the way?

Subject: RE: BS: Toies buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 03:03 PM

The chronic vitamin dediciencies are showing through, Bonzo...

Subject: RE: BS: Toies buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 02:54 PM

You all clearly have nothing to do whilst I am at work!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Toies buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 08:46 AM

Well, we only need to look at the obvious harm it did to your character, Bonzo.

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Toies buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 08:44 AM

Back to "Maggie Thatcher, the school-milk snatcher"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Toies buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 08:04 AM

I never had free school lunches, why should they?????

Subject: RE: BS: Toies buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Jim McLean
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 05:05 PM

This attack on childrens' free school meals doesn't apply in Scotland but still the Scottish Tories voted for it in Westminster. Their vote would t count as this is a devolved matter but they still showed their solidarity with Theresa May's vindictive government.

Subject: RE: BS: Toies buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 10:10 AM

You can sign a Labour Party petition on their website against the school meal changes. That was put up even before this news about the DUP.

From their email to members:

Steve, tomorrow the Tories plan to change the rules on free school meals, which could see one million of the poorest children lose out.

For some of these children, that means losing out on the chance to have one hot meal in their day.

For the parents — many already struggling under the weight of Tory cuts — this is yet more proof that the Tories won't keep their promises, and won't prioritise the many.

Families don't deserve this. Let's tell Theresa May loud and clear that we won't stand for it.

Only Labour will make sure every primary school child has a free school meal. A Labour government would tax private schools to pay for meals for all primary school children - because a Labour education system will work for the many, not the few.

If you stand with Labour, and the thousands of families who'll lose out, please sign today.

Subject: BS: Toies buy DUP vote on school meals
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 09:58 AM

Just when you thought that the Tories could not sink any lower than using the Russian nerve agent fiasco to mask passing legislation removing free school meals for thousands of the poorest children, they then do this.

Buy the DUP vote by excluding the poor in Norther Ireland.

The sooner this shower of shits are kicked out the better.

DtG