BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska

Subject: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 05:29 PM

Oh yes

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Joe_F
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 06:15 PM

ObMudcat

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: michaelr
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 07:03 PM

What's a moose permit?

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: vectis
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 08:25 PM

Why? Are you going to eat it?

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 08:37 PM

Jayz, it takes some doing to rhyme Mateus with moose...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 09:11 PM

That is bureaucracy gone mad if you need a permit to keep a pet moose in your house...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 10:22 PM

Is this just a learner's permit for driving a moose? How much instruction do you have to have to get a solo license, Dan? Do you get tested on moose calling? It sounds harder than flying a plane....especially if it's during rutting season...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 10:49 PM

Congratulations!

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 10:55 PM

You can go up there and play in the Arctic Open!

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 03:07 AM

"What's a moose permit?"
It's a permit allowing a Glaswegian who hasn't got room for a dog or cat to keep a smaller pet
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Senoufou
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 03:44 AM

As long as it disnae get loose aroond the hoose Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 03:44 AM

How about you stay at home and let the moose get on with its life in peace as nature intended.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Senoufou
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 03:51 AM

Oh Doug, I'm SO glad you posted that! I've been tempted for ages to object to slaughtering innocent wild animals for sport, but thought I might be the only one on here.
I can't imagine pointing a gun at a lovely moose and killing it just for fun.
And what if it isn't a clean kill and the animal suffers?
I can't understand the mindset of a person who would do that.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Raggytash
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 06:02 AM

No you're not alone Senoufou. I understand we have to eat but this type of "sport" is abhorrent.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 06:13 AM

The surprising thing is that you even NEED a permit in a country where slaughtering wildlife with firearms is the national religion. And in Alaska, given their determination to make total war against nature, you'd expect killing all the creatures you can would be compulsory.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 06:23 AM

Dan is one of the good guys and I suspect that this is not just about killing animals for him. Before anyone takes exception to shooting wildlife we need to check how and why it is being shot. If it is for food, fine, better than breeding animals in captivity only to be sent to the slaughter house. If it shooting because the animals are now so profuse they are causing themselves damage, then a cull is a short term answer but it would be better to re-balance predators and prey. (Look up wolves in Yellowstone). If it is just for fun, then, yea, maybe the shooters need re-educating. To put it nicely :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Senoufou
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 06:55 AM

That's very true of course Dave. I live in a farming area, and culling deer (who are becoming a nuisance due to lack of natural predators) who kill saplings, foxes who attack poultry and young lambs, rats who carry disease and so on is quite acceptable round here.

I also like eating meat.

But I know that I could never hide or track, lift a gun and end the life of some beautiful creature such as a moose just for the pleasure of watching it fall.

I was incandescent when some clown (sorry, but I think he may have been an American) felled that lovely lion with a black mane in Africa not so long ago. Trophy hunting.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 07:06 AM

I WONDER HOW CECIL TASTED?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Senoufou
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 07:27 AM

Ugh Jim, that photo makes me rage inside. Ignorant smug bastard.
Standing there grinning, holding the corpse of a noble creature that was admired by many.
I'd forgotten the lion was known as Cecil.

Whatever goes on in the minds of these 'hunters'? Have they no empathy, imagination or compassion?
I'm sitting here fuming now...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 07:38 AM

It's probably a service moose.

:-|

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 08:21 AM

Senoufou, you forgot 'fat'.

'Hunting' for food I understand and can accept. In some respects, I find it more acceptable than 'growing' animals and then subjecting them to the horrors of the abattoir when they have barely reached adulthood.

Trophy, or 'sport' 'hunting', however, is amongst the foulest, most base of human activities, along with bull-'fighting'. Somebody should 'hunt' those bastards and mount their heads on the wall.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Senoufou
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 08:35 AM

Oh Lord, don't mention bull-fighting!

As a very young student I got a cheap flight to Malaga during the summer vacation. Being rather naive I went to see a bull-fight.
I was absolutely traumatised and tottered out of the place after the first bull was slaughtered.
I've never ever forgotten the horror of it. I was all alone and I sobbed for hours. Wicked, sadistic, evil people...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 09:46 AM

The creepiest folk accommodation I've had was at a folk camp near Lake Balaton i Hungary, in a B&B whose owner was the leader of the local hunting club. There were literally hundreds of animal heads on the walls, mostly small deer but many other species. There must have been more than 100 heads of one kind of tiny deer alone. And photos of the guy posing with dead animals, certificates congratulating him on what he'd killed, the whole works. The place was a monument to macho brutality.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:33 AM

Every once gets eaten there is nothing better than moose meat. It will fill my freezer and a bunch of others

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:38 AM

I thought as much, Dan. Good man.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:39 AM

Hey jack why don’t you rave at how domestic animals are slaughtered or do you think you’re meat is just little packages in a store. Everyone should have to see how it’s done start to finish. In hunting you get to understand that it gave it’s life for you and have the respect the animal deserves

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:45 AM

And fish are living creatures also i get mine with a rod how many sea otters and dolphins die getting yours from fishing boats with five miles of nets when you go to the store

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:46 AM

And no animal is a trophy to me or anyone I know it’s called food that wasn’t raised in cruel factories for slaughter

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:52 AM

And the biologists set size and number limits. The license cost 1000 US dollars that goes directly to conservation. Do you do that for your meat

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:54 AM

It's too easy for suburban meat eaters to be hypocrites.
But most of us draw the line at appalling trophy hunting...

I grew up in a working class semi rural community where pond and river fishing
was a key aspect of male culture.
We were banned from removing and eating any catch apart from eels
[cant remember if even that was really legal...???]
.. and we were brought up to try our best not to injure the fish,
[yeah.. apart from the hook in the mouth.. I know... I stopped fishing over 40 years ago...]
returning them alive to the water to grow and thrive...

my uncle hunted with dogs, ferrets, and shotgun for rabbits and fowl for the table...

This is surely fair enough and reasonable for the UK.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 11:11 AM

Nothing bothers me more than head hunters. It makes me sick. Hunting is for food and it’s appalling how some make it a trophy. The animal deserves respect and thanks for giving its life. That’s hunting as I grew up putting meat on the table

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 11:57 AM

Oldude - most of us here knew all that stuff about you. You're a good guy.
How do I send you my order? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 12:00 PM

My mrs is very fond of Chocolate Mousse Balls...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jos
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 12:39 PM

"In hunting you get to understand that it gave it’s life for you"
"The animal deserves respect and thanks for giving its life"

This sounds as if the animal CHOSE to be shot and eaten. It's a rather different understanding of 'gave' and 'given' from the meaning I am used to.
I acknowledge that I eat meat and that in order for me to do that, an animal must die first, and I would rather it had a good enough life until then. I also realise that in most cases the animal would not have had any life as it would not have been born at all without the intention that it would eventually be eaten. But I don't pretend that it died willingly. It's life was taken from it without its permission.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 12:47 PM

Why make a meal of mere words..

It's to be respected that responsible humane hunters value and honour the life of the animals they kill and eat...

Why get petty and pedantic about the words they use to try to explain their principles and feelings...

Not everyone is a superior articulate literary academic writer...


[I intentionally left off the ???s - I wasn't asking any questions...]

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 12:57 PM

Backwoods I will get you some along with the 50 pounds of salmon filets i have from my fishing trip. I had neighbors knocking on the door. My mail man said i could have my mail if he could have one of the salmon filets.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 12:57 PM

He held my mail as ransom lol

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 01:01 PM

I think too many folks feel too compelled to be too clever than necessary...

Such time should be used more effectively on a more practical level,
like haranguing cruel and wasteful hunters...

On the presumption that most living beings would not volunteer to be killed and eaten,
the line of philosophising about 'choice' seems quite pointless...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 01:13 PM

Thanks 'dude, but England's a long way and it would likely go 'off' in shipment! I appreciate your kindness and good humour (or do I mean 'humour') though! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 01:21 PM

When you die you will be eaten by your own intestinal fauna. You don't choose this. A hawk takes a rabbet and eats it. Vultures eat carrion, as do coyotes, bears, and wolves...and you. The death and butchering is divorced from you (unless you are quite unusual). But did you have eggs for breakfast? -- you ate an unborn chicken, you brutal savage!!

Don't condemn another until you know the facts. Not the propaganda, the FACTS. About the case.

(And you'll be surprised what you can do if you or those you love are really hungry or in danger.)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 01:30 PM

My kudos to people who are vegans. I couldn’t do it as I am a meat eater. When one has to take an animal, gut it butcher it you know where meat comes from. It is not fun and you realize where and what was involved with those steaks on the grill or the pot roast. Killing an animal is never pleasant but I eat meat and a moose is all meat with no drugs in it no growth hormones and lived free and not in a cage

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 02:00 PM

While we are edging into this more complex issue...

I get irritated by the hypocrisy of meat eaters who condemn the consumption of dog and cat meat..
and any other designated cute cuddly pet animals...

It does not appeal to me because I am also very sentimental about dogs,
but I'm not going to get all priggish about those cultures who do...

Also, there is probably a practical health reason why mankind mostly abstains
from eating predatory carnivorous animals...???

I'd accept that over them being too cute to eat...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jos
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 02:57 PM

I didn't intend any personal attack, and I certainly wasn't trying to be clever. My criticism was of the way language is used in general - I must try to control my habit of taking things literally.
If anything, I feel more guilty about eating a living plant than about eating a dead animal, and yes, I have skinned and gutted rabbits, though I haven't killed one. In fact, an unfertilised egg from a free range hen is something I can eat without any feelings of guilt. It is not an unborn chicken.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 03:04 PM

Jos - sorry if I came over a bit belligerent - it's taking me longer to wake up out of a tired grumpy mood today...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 03:12 PM

"My kudos to people who are vegans. I couldn’t do it as I am a meat eater. When one has to take an animal, gut it butcher it you know where meat comes from. It is not fun and you realize where and what was involved with those steaks on the grill or the pot roast. Killing an animal is never pleasant but I eat meat and a moose is all meat with no drugs in it no growth hormones and lived free and not in a cage"

Nice post, Dan.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jos
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 03:16 PM

That's OK. (I only started reading this thread because I didn't know what a 'nome' was. Now I've googled it and found that it is a place called 'Nome'.)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 03:48 PM

I've just googled and found the major health reasons why we tend not to eat carnivores...

Good luck to the cultures who do eat dog without needless guilt and sentimentality,
but apparently dog meat, apart from all other potential risks, is rich in purines and can inflame gout...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: ranger1
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 05:07 PM

Oh, yum, Dan! I love a good moose steak. Moose roast is also delicious.

I am fortunate enough to live in a place where I can buy my meat already slaughtered and pre-packaged. If push came to shove, I would have a much easier time hunting an animal that saw me as a predator than I would raising and slaughtering animals for food.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 06:44 PM

Ranger they are wonderful. I don’t think I ever had better steaks. Amazing. One Alaska friend gave me some moose bacon I never heard of it but it was wonderful

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 06:51 PM

Some facts about animal exploitation, including hunting. This seems to leave out some of what goes on in the UK and which is paralleled elsewhere: a figure in the news this week is that Scotland has 1% of the mountain hares it did 50 years ago, exterminated by big landowners to boost the population of birds they can charge people to kill.

http://www.animalmatters.org/facts/wildlife/

Nobody needs to eat the species being hunted to extinction by American gun fetishists. They're not being hunted for food, the killers are some of the richest people in the world and they're doing it to satisfy their twisted lusts. Get your jollies by killing your fellow Americans if that's what turns you on - all life on the planet will thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: EBarnacle
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 07:07 PM

Be careful about how you cook your moose, Dan. Mad Cow Disease is now common in various forms of deer in the lower 48. It seems to vector through ticks. Moose is the largest deer in North America. I have not accepted the venison that a friend offers me lately.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: vectis
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 07:35 PM

I find that hunting for food acceptable, after all I spent my early years shooting rabbits for the pot as we didn't have money spare to buy meat. I gave them a quicker, cleaner end than the fox would have. I do have a problem with trophy hunters unless the numbers in a restricted reserve need to be culled because of overcrowding.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 09:54 PM

Every HUNTER I know, including all of my family and myself, finds trophy hunting to be wrong. When my family hunts all of the slain animal, including the bones, are used as food or returned. E.g., entrails which are not used otherwise are left for coyotes, bones are either left for wild rodents or other animals or used for bone meal fertilizer (yes, it is ground by us). If too much is taken, something that usually doesn't happen, the excess goes to a foodbank or other source that will help to feed others.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:02 PM

There is nothing endangered in the moose population Jack but again you talk out of your ass as you enjoy your farm raised tortured domestic animals that are force fed live inside boxes and shot full of antibiotics and growth hormones. If you eat any meat you are a hippocrite talking about something you know nothing about. However that never stopped you before as that is what you do

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:07 PM

Oh enjoy your steak jack try getting your hands bloody so you know where it came from. Oh but you let others do the nasty work so you can grill. As least we take that responsibility on our self instead of leaving it to another you creep

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:15 PM

And our moose population is highly managed. There is no endangered species hunted in the USA. Try breaking a game law and see what happens

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:34 PM

A friend was a game warden in Alaska, and was a hunter. I loved visiting her parents around mealtime - if they knew you were coming they'd get out the beef, but if you dropped by you were liable to get moose, elk, or venison. Mmmmm!

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 10:37 PM

Not nearly enough!

Deer, not moose.

Don't waste!

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 12:18 AM

"Not nearly enough!"


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sod that then...

We also now get the same legalistic cockblock from a popular USA music gear shop...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 01:56 AM

Luthiers' Mercantile (Lmii), pfr? Frustrating, innit?

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 04:21 AM

If you capture a moose
We could get the garage converted into a moosery
And it could sleep on the sofa. Although, I like to watch TV and play guitar into the early hours and some visitors don't like that

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 04:50 AM

Lol

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 10:44 AM

I wonder what my Amish friends will think when i ride my moose over to visit them

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 11:09 AM

It must be a huge relief for a mother moose that the antlers grow after her baby is born...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 11:19 AM

Backwoodsman -

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yeah.. bloody annoying - but at least we can refer to google cache providing we can find a proper link to the product reviews we want to read... bollocks to bureaucracy...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 11:25 AM

Pfr, I'm hacked off with lmii at the moment, I want some 'bits and bobs' that I've had from them before, but I can't get on the website to order them. I suppose I could call them and try to describe the stuff I want, but ordering from the website would be so much easier. I haven't had any problems with Elderly, MFG, or any of the other US sites I go to.

Wot a palaver! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 12:38 PM

Backwoodsman - now might be time for you to fanny around finding and installing a safe VPN..
I'd guess there is a primer thread somewhere back in mudcat archives...

I know this aint much to do with moose..
unless it's cuz we might want to order a moose caller from a USA mooseical instrument shop...???

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 01:01 PM

Moose call just use bagpipes:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 01:23 PM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 01:41 PM

Jack Campin:

Being as how you approve of assassination (Robert Kennedy), I'm surprised as how you make an issue of legitimate hunting. Or are you of the opinion that Bobby was eaten?

For the record, Alaskans are of varied opinions and for everyone who might want to make 'total war against nature' there are many many times that number who revel in the closeness that nature provides, sometimes unasked for.

We also have a sense of humor about our nature. Ergo our invitation to tourists not to love too much: "Step out of the bus and into the foodchain."

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 03:05 PM

Go back to sleep jack,
Hey backwoods, last year I was doing my grunt squealing call and I had a young bull run to me. I was kinda worried I was going to get mated by a 1000 pound animal. I kept saying go moose and he kept coming back lol

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 03:14 PM

thinking about it...

if a moose somehow gets tipped over onto it's back..
can it get up on it's feet again without help...???

I suppose it's worth knowing if you ever need to wrestle one...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 04:24 PM

LOL again Dan! :-) :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 04:26 PM

There is a real nasty case of a couple of yobs hunting 'old style' (man and son caught on camera killing bear in den). The general consensus is they are a blight on the hunting community and the community as a whole. A bigger blight than the fella that shot Cecil because he was guided to the poor old lion. These jerkwads led themselves and knew what they were doing, including that fish and wildlife had collared the mother bear. What they did not know was that a hidden camera caught them on visual and audio.

Now, bears as well as moose are legitimate game within legal restrictions. I knew a guy who loved to eat bear.

On a more cheerful note, peace may occasionally reign
in local yards.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 04:42 PM

On the subject of moose, back in 2012 Mrs Backwoodsperson and I took a fly-drive in AB and BC, Canada. On the road between Jasper and Prince George we came across Momma Moose and Li'l Baby Moose trotting along the road-side. We spent several of the best minutes of our lives watching Momma teach Li'l Baby to jump a fence, caught it on the camcorder too. An absolute joy, and a moment I'll never forget. <3

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 04:58 PM

Yes but they don’t climb trees worth shit

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 05:11 PM

Stop I! Stop it! LOL again! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 06:07 PM

Backwoodsman If Moose is more delicious than Bear steak, does the same hold true for vegan steak?

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: gillymor
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 06:17 PM

It depends on how old the vegan is, Don, they say the older ones are kinda tough and stringy.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 06:17 PM

I was on a camping trip in Maine and with my party having lunch by a lake we observed TWO mom mooses with calves, at separate but closely spaced times, with mommas enjoying an in-the-lake stroll, possibly teaching their calves about the nutritious greens to be found growing therein. Anyhow, aside from the spectacular natural interludes, it was clear to us hominids that the moose enjoyed different relationships. One of the calves was obviously relished by its mother, the other calf was whiny and its mother abrupt with it (or just having a bad day?).

My memory also is that those moose were physically larger than the Alaska moose I've lived among more recently. I don't know if that's as a rule or whatnot.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: gillymor
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 06:46 PM

About a decade ago I was fishing the Gros Ventre in Wyoming near Jackson Hole and taking a fair amount of cutthroat on dry flies while working slowly down stream. I was "in the zone", as they say, when all of a sudden a big lady moose came crashing out of the brush and into the river. I was about a hundred feet upstream and almost jumped out of my waders. She stood and glowered at me and when it was apparent she wasn't going to move while I was around I went to the far bank and took the fisherman's trail upstream. When I got a ways away I looked back and she was nudging her small calf across the stream with her snout, a sight I'll never forget.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 07:00 PM

My daughter has a yard moose, she is a big cow. Every time I visit i hear yelp as she hands my daughters coon hound a kick in the ass. Her dog doesn’t ever get that a 1500 pound animal doesn’t need to run. She kicks him he rolls down the hill then goes inside the house thinking he won

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 07:09 PM

When you bag one of them it’s like ringing the dinner bell for bears. I swear they know the sound of a rifle. Like quint on jaws ‘ sometimes the bear go away sometimes he don’t ‘ then you watch your moose being carried off without even a thank you after you back off quickly. Sometimes a shot by his feet changes his mind other times, hey I am bigger it’s mine and away it goes lol

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 07:16 PM

Another fascinating thing. An old timer even older than me said watch the ravens. Apparently they figured out if they help you they get all the tasty guts. They will fly into a tree look at you and sqack from tree to tree leading you right to them. I thought he was full of wacky tabaccy but it’s really true

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 09:05 PM

Well, an Uncle-in-Law shot a mountain lion while working for the Forest Service. It was during the Depression, so he brought it back to the small town (50 residents!) that he was living in. They butchered it, brought some beer and vegetables, and "had a big cat feed." Bear tastes a lot like pork; of course, much depends on how it's fixed. Everything tastes like chicken if it's not beef or pork: stumps, rattlesnake, kangaroo, bat guano, barbed wire, even chicken. Long pig tastes like pork, or so I'm told.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 11:14 PM

Rap have you been hunting long pig lol. For those who don’t know it’s what cannibels call people lol.

Rule don’t try to goose a moose. Those fuckers will stomp ya

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 11:16 PM

Lol being a non resident I can only shoot one with four brow tines and at least 50 inches. Going to be a bitch trying to creep up with my tape measure :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 11:23 PM

Conversation with the wild life biologist. How did I get a permit you have very limited numbers. Oh I was your student you taught me programming. I am sorry I don’t remember you. You wouldn’t I sucked lol

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: robomatic
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 12:52 AM

I've heard that about ravens and I believe it. I'm pretty sure they're not too particular and if they see you and YOU don't look particularly healthy they'll lead the bears to YOU.

Hey, guts is guts.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 03:05 AM

If you bother a moose, the other members of the lodge will come after you.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 05:32 AM

It takes a lot to bother a moose. As long as they've got the simple things in life (three square, satellite tv for the ice hockey, the odd Chinese takeaway) they are passive and friendly with a good sense of humour and liberal attitudes towards sex.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 08:12 AM

As Queen Victoria said, we are not a moose...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 08:44 AM

Can’t stop laughing

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 08:47 AM

the more I now think about moose...

..slowly recalling vague memories of a TV natural history program
I watched when I was a kid.
The biologist presenter may have been Jacques Cousteau
except he wasn't French or underwater.
The highlight of the documentary were spectacular scenes
of the moose using their antlers as rotor blades for vertical take of and landing...
This was probably on the BBC on a Sunday afternoon...???

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 11:04 AM

Folksong:-

I've got a moose permit in Alaska
I've got a permit for my moose
Theres no emnity, between the moose and me
In fact we've held a truce
I'm no longer a hermit, now I've got my permit
My moose and mee are mates
I've got a moose permit in Alaska
In the great United States.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: gillymor
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 02:08 PM

The Greatest Moose of All

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 02:48 PM

Great song love it. Hey isn’t moose the gel stuff Woman use for their hair. How does it fit. The mind boggles. A very tiny moose inside a bottle hmm

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 11:50 PM

Lady Hillary and I saw something rather peculiar yesterday. We were on our way to a meeting when a pair of whitetail deer crossed the road in front of us. One took off in a safe direction. The other went into a chain link fence head on. When it hit the fence, it moved to the next section of fence and tried to go through that. Repeated at least six times while we sat there trying not to panic it any worse than it already was. We finally gave up, restarted the engine and drove away. I don't know whether the deer was just more stupid than most or blind[not seeing the link fence] but it was a rather sad and eerie sight. No idea how it all turned out. I hope the deer recovered and departed.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 18 Aug 18 - 10:24 AM

Very possible it was born with no vision in one eye or lost vision in one eye. They have very acute vision but need both for depth perception

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: robomatic
Date: 18 Aug 18 - 04:43 PM

not for the first time: moose turd pie

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 18 - 10:32 PM

The problem is loose moose. You can run into one on a bicycle (happened to a doctor here) and it may or may not stomp you to bits. Hit one with a motorcycle and spend time in the Emergency Department. Hit one with a car or truck and you get a new vehicle and possibly get to meet folks at the hospital. Hit one with a train and you get mooseburger. In some places you can salvage the meat as a kind of pity prize for your own damages.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 12:38 AM

My uncle hit a deer in the Quantocks...
..as he was driving his transit van, it went straight in the back, then home to his big frezer...
Dunno if he ate the bruised bits, sold them to ciderered up blind drunk blokes down the pub, or fed them to his dogs...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 12:46 AM

I'm now wondering if he'd have done the same thing
if he'd run down a pedestrian on that road...????

.. he was the most hard core deep rural old world country dweller in our family

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jos
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 04:29 AM

I was told some time ago that if you find dead pheasants, deer etc. on the road you are allowed to take them and eat them, but if you accidentally kill a pheasant or deer you are not allowed to keep it as that would count as poaching.
Can anyone confirm this?

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 04:39 AM

I heard the same thing, Jos. In fact, I'm sure I read it in a newspaper.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 05:45 PM

Jos that use to be the case in Pennsylvania and nys. Now they come out take pictures make sure you were not drinking etc and let you take it. Far as deer my mrs totaled three cars with them running out. I think that’s why they issue five or six permits permits per hunter. We have an explosion of them here because of all the food and farmland

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 05:49 PM

In Alaska they take the moose and donate it to the homeless shelter you cannot keep it. Usually damage is really bad and lots of people have been killed. Not like a deer you smash up your car pretty good but a moose is like hitting a cement wall

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 05:52 PM

Really nice big deer here around 180 lbs. Alaska moose 1800 + lbs

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 05:59 PM

Hey rap do you want a box of my 45-70 hardcast. I just made several boxes medium load easy on the shoulder but at 1580 fps work great . These will not lead any barrel as they are rated to 2000 fps

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 06:00 PM

What is this. Who makes chocolate moose lol

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 09:11 PM

Sure. You'll need my physical address; I'll pm it to you.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 09:34 PM

"My uncle hit a deer in the Quantocks..."

That deer has my sympathy. I once got hit in the Gorbals. Bloody painful it was too...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 10:12 PM

Lol awesome steve

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 10:12 PM

Need your address rap

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 10:27 PM

If you hunt or want bear protection mine own are superb. I will send them in a buffalo bore box but they are not buffalo bore. I use the best hardcast 405 , starline brass and 38.5 grains of imr 4198 powder. It’s a medium not max load but devastating on game

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 10:28 PM

Won’t hurt your shoulder

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Aug 18 - 10:48 AM

It sounds to me as though we should say sod the starving Africans. Lets offer political immunity to Mooses.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Aug 18 - 11:33 AM

I'd like to see a genetically engineered cross between a moose and a grizzly bear..

Now that'd be a predator requiring a change of underpants
if you ever came face to face with one...

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 20 Aug 18 - 12:40 PM

Big al we could ask trump

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 02:07 PM

BIG Al, the acoustic qualities of Moose antler is remarkably penetrating in that it is more porous than wood but immensely stronger, hard and loud.
Be the first to have a Moses, Mossad, I mean Moose antler Uke.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 02:19 PM

How about the cutest most vicious predator cross - 1/2 Kodiak Bear and Panda.

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Jos
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 02:37 PM

If you crossed a horse with a swordfish or a narwhal, would you get a unicorn?

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: EBarnacle
Date: 22 Aug 18 - 01:36 AM

Would the steaks taste good? Or would it be protected species?

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Aug 18 - 06:31 AM

No moose is good moose....

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 23 Aug 18 - 08:04 PM

https://youtu.be/4uPXHggbCTY

Subject: RE: BS: Yay I got a moose permit for nome Alaska
From: olddude
Date: 23 Aug 18 - 08:08 PM

https://youtu.be/pN5PmOS34hI

These guys are Canadian