BS: Gene genie?

Subject: BS: Gene genie?
From: KarenH
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 09:37 AM

Delighted by claims in today's press that t'Rump's orange skin is not down t't sun beds or t't lotions but t't genetics. Never heard of a genetic cause of a google shaped white circle round eyes but there you go.

I now firmly believe that the disappearance of my unwanted eyebrows when coincidentally they have been near tweezers is also down to genetics.

Any other genetic claims of a similar nature to be made?

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 10:32 AM

Yea

Adrenaline is brown and runs in yer jeans................

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 11:04 AM

Is a gene genie like a diaper genie?

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 11:18 AM

Oh I have the gene for arachnophobia. It's associated with startling beauty and superb intelligence.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 11:19 AM

To me the gene Genie is CRISPR.
My blonde Viking eyebrows can be combed back into the temples. If they get any longer I will send them to you.

I suspect exogenetics influences behavior.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Thompson
Date: 06 Feb 19 - 02:48 AM

Well, tongue-rolling, love or hate of Brussels sprouts and/or coriander (and maybe broccoli in another American president - by the way, has anyone seen Vice?)...

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Jos
Date: 06 Feb 19 - 03:36 AM

Could it be that rather than being genetic, food likes are linked to what the mother eats while pregnant and while breastfeeding?

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 06 Feb 19 - 03:46 AM

Baby Jacob arrived yesterday, and amazingly already seems to share his grandad's enthusiasm for old Martin guitars, Southampton FC, 1950's American cars, and the recorded works of Robert Johnson, Ry Cooder and Richard Thompson.

Genetics is a wonderful thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Feb 19 - 04:27 AM

The New Scientist reported research on what can only be described as epigenetics.

Mothers who have endured famine or even restricted diets, particularly during pregnancy, are more likely to have smaller babies. And the grandkids also exhibit some of the trait for reduced size. This is well known in cats.

If you think about it: evolution would have favoured this manifestation in order for the species to survive difficult conditions. Larger people need more food!

And there is a tendency for younger generations to be taller in Western countries, where there is more than plenty of food. Much more!

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Feb 19 - 04:27 AM

Congratulations Grandad Rusty!

I can roll my tongue and adore sprouts. Do you mean to tell me that not everyone is like this??

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Feb 19 - 09:49 AM

Don't forget the cilantro-is-inedible gene.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Feb 19 - 10:54 AM

Did I dream it or did the American version of 'Life on Mars' have some suggestion that the detective named Gene Hunt had something to do with genetics?

Sounds a bit far fetched so I guess I dreamt it. But then again...

Oh, and that is in keeping with the David Bowie titles :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Thompson
Date: 07 Feb 19 - 12:44 PM

Those specific taste hates are not to do with what the mother does when pregnant, Jos, but it might have to do with what the mother did while she was getting pregnant.

As for Gene Hunt, it's another example of what's trendily called nominative determinism (Mr Green becomes a greengrocer; Ms Wyse goes into philosophy, etc; there's a reverse version too, like the British policeman called Rob Banks).

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Feb 19 - 06:04 PM

I knew a Robin Banks

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Senoufou
Date: 08 Feb 19 - 03:38 AM

I'm interested in the genetics versus nurture question.

All my W African in-laws are small in stature and quite thin. So was my husband until he arrived in UK.

Amazingly, not only did he put on weight, he actually grew about 5 cms in height. His bones took on board calcium, while many other nutrients made his muscles stronger, so his posture and his newly-strengthened bones made him taller.

He now dwarfs his entire family - they're amazed at his appearance and literally look up to him.

But this theory falls down when one considers other tribes in Africa.
The Wolof I met in Senegal were very tall, big and sturdy, yet the Diola (or Jola, depends if one is Francophone or Anglophone) are tiny, fragile little folk with more pointy faces.

They all live in the same environment and are all rather poorly-nourished. So genetics seem to dictate their stature.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Feb 19 - 05:31 PM

Didn't David Bowie write that song about Iggy Pop?

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 12:28 AM

Senenfou, I noted something of the sort in a Chinese man. He had lived in the US from age 12 and by the time I met him when he was 40, he was 5'9" and robust. His Chinese employees were short and slight; I doubt any of them weighed 130 pounds.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 03:17 AM

I've read that Japanese-born folk who have lived in the US for many years grow much taller, and that their children are every bit as tall as their European-origin friends and neighbours.

It's sad isn't it that people's stature may be due to deprivation and malnourishment, while their appearance has formerly been ascribed to their ethnicity and genetics?

I have to add that all my husband's family are very very black, which I find extremely attractive. So was he until he'd been in UK for about ten years and I noticed he was getting paler. He's now a much lighter colour, although still quite dark of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 04:07 AM

So genetics seem to dictate their stature.

so does epigenetics

Nuture v nature - is an argument, not a binary choice!

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Jos
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 04:09 AM

I've read that as well about Japanese people living in the US. And think about how big Japanese Sumo wrestlers get on the right diet.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Feb 19 - 08:03 PM

We are living in the time when the first CRISPR enhanced genetically modified people are being born. This was the aim of Eugenics 90 years ago but the concept of becoming super human was warped by a master race Nazification and elimination of undesirables.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: leeneia
Date: 14 Feb 19 - 10:07 PM

To get back to the first post, I suspect Trump's orange skin is caused by make-up. Some unlucky people just find that make-up turns orange on them after a while.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Sep 22 - 03:48 AM

I can't find the thread where my post about epigenetics following the generations (in a diminishing effect) was (he says politely) discredited. But here is the report on a slightly different take on the same.

Folate ............ causing transgenerational effect on development

Source of link - New Scientist, Oct 5, Page 14. viz "Lack of Folic Acid hits generation.








(go on resident "fount of all knowledge", digest that one) he won't, but he might question my spoolling/grammer

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Sep 22 - 06:27 AM

I doubt that anyone here is going to digest all that lot. However, kudos for picking a reputable source, though I note that you have little to say about it. As you prodded me, I opened that link, though I almost never do that for links unsupported by their providers.

Subject: RE: BS: Gene genie?
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Sep 22 - 01:57 AM

Has anyone 'seen' tRump with no makeup on? He is pasty and slack faced, and looks a good 15 years older than with his beloved orangeness.