Your occupation vs. your music style

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: sophocleese
Date: 31 Dec 99 - 12:37 AM

I stopped paying attention to the myers briggs test when it asked if you were inventive or practical. I always figured it was practical people that were inventors. The left/right brain thing seems still to be an interesting theory that needs a lot more exploring.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Helen
Date: 31 Dec 99 - 01:29 AM

Hi again,

Here's a test called the Keirsey Temperament Sorter (where *do* they get these names from?) but the score is written the same as the Myers-Briggs 4-letter type. It's pretty quick to take, and then the explanations are very interesting.

http://www.keirsey.com/cgi-bin/keirsey/newkts.cgi

By the way I'm an ENTP (extravert, intuition, thinking, perceiving) whicht the Keirsey scoring refers to as an Inventor. I think it's pretty close towho I am.

My musical interests, I mean for playing music, not listening, are mainly Celtic music, especially O'Carolan's melodies. I love good harmonies and interesting or different melodies, and I hate repetitive tunes with a passion. Barbara Allen (don't shoot me, I'm only telling the truth *BG*) falls into that category for me.

Dada dada (high note), dada dada (low note), dada dada (high note) da da da, dada dada etc etc ad nauseum

But then if someone sings it creatively and puts in variations and lots of interesting or intricate harmonies I could love it.

Mary, I tried to connect to that site a couple of days ago and also today. It's not connecting for some reason. It used to be Barbarian's Test Page but the old site refers to the new site and won't connect from there either.

I tried Cyberia Shrink's Queendom site - she usually has lots of good tests, but I don't think she had the right/left brain one. http://www.queendom.com/test_frm.html

I did find a downloadable test for right/left brain focus in my search, but I'll have to back track to find it because my computer crashed taking my copied site link with it because I (stupidly) hadn't saved it.

Helen

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: tradsteve
Date: 31 Dec 99 - 02:07 AM

I sell Iced-cream for a living... didn't expect that did you? I play guitar and harmonica and play traditional music; mainly old ballads and acoustic blues. I also dabble in songwriting (though I have a ways to go). I have no idea how this theory applies to me.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 Dec 99 - 03:55 AM

My, what a lot of lefties there are out there - does this add to the theory that the left handers are the creative ones? - to whit: Leonardo Da Vinci, Van Gogh, Paul McCartney, John Lennon to name but a few.

I only ever learned violin, and could never control the bow well enough to please my teacher, with my right hand (still has lingering weakness due to ripped cartiledge), guitar was hopeless, I wanted to pick with my left and do the chords as well..... and the hurdy gurdy is probably all that is left to me, as I find it practically impossible to do piano tunes with my right hand. I used to work in a library, and have always been involved with food, books and people. Oh, and chocolate.

LTS

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Little dorritt
Date: 31 Dec 99 - 11:52 AM

I'm a lefty too,currently a financial consultant but previously a systems analyst. I have a lot of co-ordination problems e.g.i cannot control both sides of my body when driving etc -(give me a wide berth chaps changing gear and steering at the same time is virtually impossible for me!) playing instruments such as guitar etc also presents problems as does anything which requires my hands to do different tasks.- - however I am an exhibited artist and poet and at my age I am past worrying about it. I do remember at school being told to write with my right hand and also being punished for being unable to knit.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: selby
Date: 31 Dec 99 - 01:04 PM

A very left handed Electrician in a Large Power Station who plays accordian. But only the right hand,as when I put the Bass hand in, the right hand feels bullied and stops. Keith

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Helen
Date: 31 Dec 99 - 07:21 PM

Hi again,

The only test I can find for right-left brain is a downloadable zip file here. I haven't tried it out yet.

http://www.thezodiac.com/Bouncer.htm

Helen

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Dec 99 - 08:29 PM

Solicitor - English for attorney. I like traditional English vocal harmony. Surprise!

Gargoyle I wish I understood you.

Tradsteve I wish I knew more people careful enough to say "iced cream"

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 01 Jan 00 - 06:59 PM

Hi Gang, I'm a potter by day and play music whenever my kids let me or when I'm making some money doing it...I guess my life is mostly on the intuitive creating side... I'm starting to forget simple nouns and i'm 49 {Not a great indication of whats to come} What is interesting is that from the pottery my hands are pritty strong and because of that I realy hammer my strings..So my occupation dose phisicaly effect my music...I play a 018 martin because mahogony works beter for me hitting so hard...I kill a white lady but sound ok on a tubaphone.. All the best Guy

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: wildlone
Date: 01 Jan 00 - 07:55 PM

tradsteve,I make ice cream for a living also frozen yogurt play guitar,bowed psaltery,auto harp mainly for my own amusement, but I have been a nurse, printer,weaver,manager in a print works,cnc turner/miller, I wonder what the psychologists would make of that.
In a hospital that I worked in I had a young man on my ward who was autistic,he was a fantastic artist.One day we had a visit from some student psychologists and as they walked round they stoped to admire the drawing he was working on, it was of a big house well mansion really set in park land with a big drive and a gate lodge, "whats that he was asked", "its where I live" he replied" he went on to tell them about the famous people he had met when he went home at weekends By then you could see them shaking their heads and as They walked away one of them said loudly "its clearly delusional" and how if they were in this hospital they would cure him quickly but as it was pointed out to them he did live in a mansion but we were better equiped at dealing wuth the problems he had than were his parents. So I never take anything at face value.
Sorry for taking up your time just wanted to say it.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: pelrad
Date: 01 Jan 00 - 09:44 PM

Words Words Words

I always go for the ballads; it's a tie as to whether the lyrics or the melody catch my attention first, but I will listen to a piece ad nauseum until I know every single word. In learning a song, I tend to be very sure of the words, then perfect the tune later.

I sing. I can pick out melodies by ear on nearly any instrument I pick up, but guitars and their ilk confuse the hell out of me; they are counterintuitive. (violin, keyboards, concertina, any wind instrument...no problem)

I work in museums and libararies, and I am a voracious reader. I'm predominately right-handed (taught myself to be ambi when an injury put my right hand out of commmission for a year). INTJ and proud of it.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 01 Jan 00 - 11:43 PM

The right-left brain test Helen mentioned was interesting; I came out 45.5% left, 54.5% right, and twice as visual as auditory, which is probably what I'd have expected. Strange business...

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: WyoWoman
Date: 02 Jan 00 - 02:19 PM

When I tried to link to the Kersey Temperament Sorter, it just took me back to the Mudcat Cafe home page. I thought THAT was the test...

What's the URL, really?

WW

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 02 Jan 00 - 08:55 PM

Interesting Malcomb Douglas, I've always told people that I think in pictures..I find that is exsteamly helpful in producing cds because you look at a peace as if it were a sculpture, that the music has form. Yours Guy

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Helen
Date: 02 Jan 00 - 09:05 PM

Sorry Wyo Woman,

I forgot to change the url from the template I keep to make blue clicky things.

It's here: Keirsey Temperament Sorter

http://www.keirsey.com/cgi-bin/keirsey/newkts.cgi

Helen

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 02 Jan 00 - 09:54 PM

I'm a structural engineer. Now, the general reputation of civil/structural engineers is that they're traditional and slow to change, can't write coherent sentences to save their life, and are generally mundane in their interests.

Meanwhile, **I'm** a science-fiction fan and filksinger and I've penned a bunch of songs. Including several where I mix structures and SF. Go figure...

-- Gary

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: vikinglass
Date: 02 Jan 00 - 10:20 PM

I did the Myers-Briggs thing in grad school and I tested out as ENFP. If my memory is correct, that's a counselor type........good thing because my grad degree is in counseling. I'm a behavioral consultant and former special ed. teacher(EBD). My music preferences are diverse. I play mountain dulcimer, get cold chills to bagpipe music, thrive on regular doses of heavy metal, relax to Mozart, and love Bluegrass. Guess I'm a bit mixed up (or eclectic). My other hobbies include riding and showing horses, sewing, and dabbling in foreign languages.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: WyoWoman
Date: 02 Jan 00 - 10:24 PM

Well, a quick temperament test reveals that I'm on the cusp between being a teacher and a field marshall. So I think I need to take up instructing marching bands!

Wyo/don't-wave-salute/Woman

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 02 Jan 00 - 10:58 PM

Guy:

Yes; everything has a shape to it, doesn't it?  Music and words just as much as pictures.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: _gargoyle
Date: 03 Jan 00 - 12:38 AM

GG....it is very NICE to have another GG posting to the threads...

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Grubby
Date: 03 Jan 00 - 03:49 AM

Richard whats there to understand about Gargoyle. He's just a Mud Catter that says what he thinks. At least you know where you stand with him in a forum discussion. Sure he's ruffled a few feathers from time to time, but if we all agreed all of the time there would be no discussion. If he does rip into you sometime it's no big deal,the sun will come up tomorrow, your arm or leg wont fall off or any thing like that because of it. I have been observing the Gargoyle mania for quite some time now and it has been a thouroughly enjoyable stouch.But we all need to put it into perspective and compare it with the big things going on in our lives, it's just a discussion forum on the net, thats all it is. As far as I'm concerned Gargoyle is one of the many MCs that has has given me heaps of interesting info, that has considerably improved my progress in this fantastic musical journey I have recently embarked on and for that I am grateful. Getting back to the original question. I don't think occupations matter much I play in a session every week with people from many varied jobs and it's never mentioned the music brings us all together and we have a bloody good time of it.

Grubby

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: JR
Date: 03 Jan 00 - 04:22 PM

Left handed, right playing (I can usually hit the strings with the pick)accountant/singer/songwriter(dreaded)photographer who really likes songs with good words best.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Peter T.
Date: 03 Jan 00 - 04:43 PM

Another leftie playing right. I am incapable of playing much of anything in part because the two different brain styles clash in my head. I can neither memorize by rote, nor by exercise: I can do both about halfway, but neither stick, very well. I have to know the structure logically before I can pick it up by ear, and not even then very well. I envy both the intuitive, and the readers: being neither. I have not found any method that works for me, except a sort of hodge-podge. There must be a rhythm of learning for muddlers, but I haven't hit it yet. It is depressing.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Llanfair
Date: 03 Jan 00 - 08:02 PM

I tried that left/right dominance test, and they came out about equal, with lashings of "visual"The testers seem to think that this combination is quite useful.
I still can't identify left or right in a hurry, though, and it takes a while to work out which way a screw undoes!!!!.
Hwyl, Bron.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: WyoWoman
Date: 03 Jan 00 - 08:26 PM

Bron: Rightie, tightie; Lefty, loosey. My son the carpenter finally made it clear to me. I just put together a large desk of many small pieces and I was huddled over the parts with my screwdriver saying, "Let's see... rightie, tightie..."

(But... do screws fasten in the same way around the globe, or is this one of those oddities that depends on where you live, like driving on one side of the road or another?)

WW

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 03 Jan 00 - 08:35 PM

Just tried the Left/ Right brain test and I am very left brained.

The results were Left 66.7% Right 33.3%
Auditory 43.8% Visual 56.3%

Jon

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From:
Date: 04 Jan 00 - 01:02 AM

Check out this site. Has a test to determine right/left brain dominance.


http://www.mtsu.edu/~devstud/advisor/hemis.html

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 04 Jan 00 - 01:18 AM

Just tried anons test - came out the same (or as close as possible with fewer questions) as the zip file for me 70% left brained - maybe I am. I have Helens link to the the Keirsy Temprament Sorter on that one I'm am I+2, S+12, T+0, J+0 whatever that means.

Maybe somebody will explain it all to be. In the meanwhile, I'll stick to playing jigs and reels etc. on tenor banjo.

Jon

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Llanfair
Date: 04 Jan 00 - 05:01 AM

Thanks, Wyowoman, I'll remember that one!!I had to bleed the folks' radiators yesterday (bank holiday,banging pipes, wanted it sorted). No problem doing the job, big problem working out which way to turn the key!!!
Jon, ANY kind of test of personality or IQ is suspect, because you never know exactly where the tester is coming from. Jim tried the left/right test, and came out very left-brained. He's left handed, and plays the bass upside down. Hwyl, Bron.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Danlbear
Date: 04 Jan 00 - 11:23 AM

Joan...I think you have a point there. A friend of mine is a garbage collector, and he plays songs by John Denver and David Gates.

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jan 00 - 12:14 PM

Haha - I just took the Keirsey test and came out as ISTP - Artisan. The secondary was SP - Crafter. I love it when tests tell me what I want to hear. (And ignore it when they don't.)

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: gervase
Date: 04 Jan 00 - 01:15 PM

I work with words and people as half-social worker half-Torquemada, keeping an eye each to the flashing knives behind my back and the greasy pole in front of me. I've been doing it for nearly 20 years, and the darned personality test tells me I'm probably crap at it! INTP? Certainly not theoretically possible! I prefer singing with people to playing and instrument, and remain deeply mistrustful of stereotypes and pigeonholes. (Which is probably why I am crap at my job - working on a newspaper isn't the best place for such equivocation)

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Danlbear
Date: 04 Jan 00 - 02:47 PM

smiles

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: peg
Date: 05 Jan 00 - 01:19 PM

interesting thread. I am a freelance writer (mostly a film critic and alternative health writer), but have done a variety of other things to pay the bills over the years, including teaching and, for about the last fifteen years, working as an artists' model. I now have a "real" (i.e. full time) job as an executive assistant which arose out of a long temping gig; thought I'd try this for a while cuz I need the insurance. But I have lots of free time to do my own work during the day since we are not busy that often...best of both worlds. They get a smart creative non-automaton, I get some space to do my thing. Music-wise, I am a singer. Period. A rather good one, too, if that is not too arrogant of me. Always better at that than at instruments cuz I have tried several of them and while i do have some aptitude and did well studying theory in schol etc. I have trouble staying with one thing long enough to master it. Thus I play a bit of piano, a bit of guitar, a bit of pennywhistle... I do play percussion instruments fairly well, and am not too shabby on the bodhran (no jokes please! :)!!) I think the reason singing and percussion are my musical strengths is that they are somehow far more kinesthetic (at least to me) than learning tunes on instruments. They involve the body and emotions somehow more than other instruments which require some amount of mathematical thought when learning to play tunes on them...partly this is because of lyrics in songs speaking to the imagination with images, partly because drumming mimics the bloodflow and heart ryhthms more than anything else...also, as I am sure you would all agree, an innate sense of rhythm is something which cannot really be taught; any more than a true sense of pitch or a good sense of phrasing...although all these things may be somewhat refined with work...which is why many of our finest musicians have an emotional or magical quality to them that makes them shine far and above those who are merely great technicians; this may also explain why so many music lovers gravitate towards singers (groupie syndrome)since the emotional response to lyrics and human vocals is a bit more complex and immediate than to instrumentals; which affect us on, perhaps, a deeper, yet more subtle, level...any thoughts on any of this? my hobbies: herbalism, aromatherapy, calligraphy, hiking, cooking...was once very active in theatre...and I am a pagan/witch to boot! My MBTI usually comes out under Idealist; this time around I was a Champion, but it varies... peg

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: Joan
Date: 05 Jan 00 - 10:40 PM

LOL! Garbage collector? Love that, Danlbear.

Some folks really hold up my theory about word people going for lyrics and songs vs. analytical types going for picking tunes. Other folks blow the whole theory right out of the water. Don't know if our dominant hand hooks into the left-right brain dominance.

Certainly a wide variety of occupations out there, but what a bummer it would be if we couldn't have our music too--whatever we sing or pick.

Joan

Subject: RE: Your occupation vs. your music style
From: lajka
Date: 06 Jan 00 - 11:07 AM

Housewifw vs Irish folkmusic What´s make that me to become?? Desprate!!