BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.

Subject: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 May 19 - 01:31 PM

Wow.. I was just reading about the effect some modern munition shells can have on tank crews...

Blam.. a shell hits the turret, shoots a jet of white hot liquid metal inside igniting all combustables..
In the same instant the shock wave creates a sudden vacuum that can suck a body inside out..
Then all the sizzling meat gets liquidised as air pressure spurts it out the small exit hole on the other side of the turret...

All within a split second...

F@ck me.. imagine sitting down at your desk at the start of a day's work and thinking that one up...

Beats working in a double glazing tele sales office...

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 May 19 - 02:24 PM

File under:

war is hell

?

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Jack Campin
Date: 18 May 19 - 02:33 PM

Look up the USS Iowa gun turret explosion, 1989.

Probably the fastest and most thorough suicide of all time.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 May 19 - 05:26 PM

But it's *honorable* (sigh/barf).

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 May 19 - 08:58 PM

Makes a rather messy funeral.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 May 19 - 11:52 PM

"What did you do at work today honey..??"

"Well.. nothing special.. oh.. after lunch I did devise an anti tank shell
that instantaneously cooks, sucks inside out, and liquidises human beings.."

"That's nice dear.. fancy a hot cuppa tea while I'm cooking dinner..."



...I suppose you'd get used to it if it pays the mortgage...???

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 19 May 19 - 02:15 AM

The inventor of the AK 47 Mikhail Kalashnikov was made a ' Hero of the Soviet Union ' for inventing a device that has killed thousands of people. What a feckin world we live in.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 May 19 - 02:45 AM

why do you think they like drones so much?

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Donuel
Date: 20 May 19 - 12:37 PM

give that man a Nobel peace prize

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: gillymor
Date: 20 May 19 - 12:43 PM

At least it sounds like a quick death. Have you ever seen the WW2 documentaries with film of tankers climbing out of their vehicles ablaze.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 May 19 - 01:08 PM

You don't need to go back to WW2. That was what the Americans did to the column of Iraqi armour as they were retreating from Basra on their way to overthrow Saddam (which the US wasn't about to permit). Thousands burned to death.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 May 19 - 01:18 PM

gillymor - yeah.. for a pacifist, I have a very keen morbid curiosity for warfare, and militay hardware..

Probably because I was a boy in the 1960s growing up brainwashed on a diet
of heroic war movies, TV series, and comics...

One of the earliest books I remember looking through was my Dad's big collection of WW2 photo journalism..
titled something like "Greatest War Photos"

It was completely graphic and uncensored..
No one seemed to mind me seeing those images of reality in the early 1960s..
Unlike today's utterly sanitised, over protective and non offensive mass news media...

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 May 19 - 01:21 PM

Jack - that was when newspapers could still print such images of the horrific consequences of war...

Now it's all so tastefully pixilated and edited...

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 20 May 19 - 02:28 PM

Yes, ideally war should be unnecessary. But, if man must kill man, surely a method which minimises the suffering of the victim is preferable.
Choose between:
They are our enemies. We must kill them to prevent them killing our men, and we will make them suffer agonies.
Or:
They are our enemies, we will kill them to prevent them killing us, but will do so as humanely as possible.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 May 19 - 02:36 PM

Have flame throwers been outlawed by any international conventions...???

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Iains
Date: 20 May 19 - 02:54 PM

Though flamethrowers aren’t entirely banned, you can’t use them to fry your enemies, according to Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. This clause prohibits the use of incendiary weapons on people. You can, however, use them to clear foliage.

Surprisingly thermobaric bombs are legal. They create a plasma cloud that has a long dwell time and the resultant overpressure wave creates fearsome tissue damage.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 May 19 - 04:54 PM

Then there is infra-sound, it resonates in the body, ruptures soft tissues, and people die of hemorrhaging.

And ultra-sonics can create similar fields. The equipment for both is not that portable, but on a vehicle maybe.

But drones are simpler, and expendable.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Donuel
Date: 21 May 19 - 09:22 AM

A morbid curiosity is normal. People can not help rubber necking to see the grotesque, the insane and horrible.

If they did not, people would not have taken a second look at Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 May 19 - 05:38 PM

What about the pain gun? And y surely, if you want to kill, you want those you kill to suffer agonies.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: robomatic
Date: 21 May 19 - 09:39 PM

I'm still shakin' my head over the merry little man who invented the bump-stock, got the Feds to allow it, and turned a respectable little business out of turning semi-automatics to effective automatics by doing an end-run around the mechanics of it all.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Raedwulf
Date: 24 May 19 - 07:47 PM

Back in the day, standard military bore was 0.303" / 7.62mm. Now it's 0.556mm (0.22"). Ever wonder why? Military doctrine shifted post-WWII. There's the obvious "We can make more of the smaller ammo from the same amount of metal", but that's not the reason.

Military doctrine now is "wound, not kill". A dead body is a dead body. A wounded soldier will lie there screaming in pain & upsetting his mates. Someone may become another casualty trying to rescue him. All casualties, if they can be recovered from a battlefield, require care, soaking up manpower & resource, draining the enemy's materiel. A corpse doesn't do that. So shoot them with smaller ammo.

Nasty, but true...

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 19 - 08:48 PM

War is for drama queens, killer kings and merry little men like the bump stock Baron.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked off, cooked, & liquidfied
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 19 - 09:04 PM

Hey Joey, do you like gladiator movies?

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 25 May 19 - 02:12 PM

From: Raedwulf - PM
Date: 24 May 19 - 07:47 PM

Back in the day, standard military bore was 0.303" / 7.62mm. Now it's 0.556mm (0.22").

0.303 inches is more that ten times as big as 0.22 inches?
Need to work on conversion rates there.

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 May 19 - 02:22 PM

""wound, not kill""

I actually already knew that.. shows I have an unhealthy interest in weaponry and warfare...

But then, maybe that makes me a more effective pacifist...???

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 25 May 19 - 03:16 PM

If you know anything about military actions you will know that soldiers are taught to aim at the largest area on the body of an enemy, this is called the MPI [ mean point of impact ] ie. the centre of the chest, a wounded enemy can shoot back, a dead one can't.

I was taught this as a young British soldier, thanfully I never had to do it.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised.
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 May 19 - 03:27 PM

Depends on the wound - shattered or missing limbs and bleeding out, incapacitate a wounded soldier
and distract his loyal close buddies...

It all adds to the genreal confusion and panic of an opposing side in battle...

Maybe infantry are instructed in text book shoot to kill,
but weapons designers go for inflicting maximum injuries..

eg, land mines...