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Once I had a Sunshine

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AS SYLVIE WAS WALKING
ONCE I HAD A SWEETHEART


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Subject: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Dec 19 - 11:57 AM

"Once I had a sweetheart", as sung by Cynthia Gooding, says:

One night in sweet slumber I dreamed I did see
My own dearest jewel sat smiling by me
But when I awakened I found it not so
My eyes like some fountain with tears overflow

"You are my sunshine" says:

The other night, dear, as I lay sleeping
I dreamed I held you in my arms
But when I woke, dear, I was mistaken
So I hanged my head and cried.

Same? Are there others? Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 11:55 AM

Aw come on, guys, real question...


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 12:03 PM

Well, Mrrzy dear, let others rush in;
this post will look at what you submitted.

And here, I think, is Cynthia Gooding's lyric.

Once I had a sweetheart (no mention of sunshine)


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,Starship
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 01:10 PM

Try "I once had a sweetheart". It was done by Baez in 1962.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Reinhard
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 01:34 PM

I Once Had a True Love by Paddy Tunney.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 07:36 PM

The title amalgamated You are my sunshine and Once I had a sweetheart.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 08:53 AM

The question is about the identical verse in the two songs. Same song?


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 09:16 AM

I see no similarity at all. I have listened to both , Mrrzy , and I cannot see how you think they are at all alike...sorry !


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 09:19 AM

They have that identical part I quoted in my apparently terribly unclear opening post.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,Starship
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 09:22 AM

There are so many take-offs and interpretations of YAMS it's almost like making sweet potato pie. Everyone comes along and tweaks the recipe for the next person they pass it along to. The result six iterations later is poutine where the pie used to be. The following article is worth the read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Are_My_Sunshine


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 09:39 AM

They may share a similar sentiment, but, to me they are very different. Many songs share this theme of dreaming of love..then waking to no love at all. Just my view...


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 10:30 AM

HiLo, I tried to think of others and failed. Examples?


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 10:34 AM

A version of Sally sat weeping I think.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 11:49 AM

Robert Schumann's setting is the best known, but this poem
by Heinrich Heine is a foundation text of the German Lied.

English translation by Louis Untermeyer, early 1900's.

[Ich hab' im Traum geweinet]

I wept as I lay dreaming,
I dreamed that you had died.
And, when I woke, the tear-drops
Clung to my cheeks undried.

I wept as I lay dreaming,
I dreamed you were false to me.
I woke, and for many hours
Lay weeping bitterly.

I wept as I lay dreaming,
I dreamed that your love was true.
I woke, to an endless weeping,
And the endless thought of you.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 12:17 PM

I looked up Sally sat weeping and it turns into a totally different Cynthia Gooding song! A maiden sat a-weeping down by the seaside. Fascinating!


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: robomatic
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 01:57 PM

When I want you in the night
And I want you to hold me tight
Whenever I want you all I have to do is dream
Dream dream dream.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 02:15 PM

Hello again Mrrzy, I just reread an earlier post of yours where you suggest that there are “ identical “ verses, I truly do fail to see any”identical” verses.am I missing something ?
In Dreams by Roy Orbison has a similar theme.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,keberoxu
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 04:39 PM

Somebody ought to stand up for the OP here.

No, each verse in total has differences,
but there are lines within each verse
that form a striking parallel,
which have the same emotional resonance.

particularly:
"But when I woke ... "


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: meself
Date: 31 Dec 19 - 04:49 PM

What is being asked about, I believe, is the business of, in four lines, presenting the image of the speaker being blissfully in the company of the loved one, waking and finding that was a dream, and then crying. Perhaps the OP is also wondering if one of the examples influenced the other? To which I would say, maybe yes, maybe no - there are similarities, but they could well be coincidental.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jan 20 - 10:03 AM

Yes, which is why these other examples are so interesting.


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,keberoxu
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 03:10 PM

Then there is the bona-fide traditional song
about the man relating the dream he had
of his beloved, from whom he was separated.

Synopsis:
he dreamed he saw his love all dressed in white
and she spoke no word and made no sound
'and then I knew my love was dead.'


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Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jan 20 - 07:55 AM

Ooh I think I knew that from a ghost ballad somewhere...


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