Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)

Subject: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: David W
Date: 16 Feb 20 - 12:54 AM

Hi,

Not to be confused with the nursery rhyme of the same name.

Anyone know where i can pick up this up. It's supposed to be the same one as with Mrs. McGrath but the recorded version sound very different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-3S4ekdW24

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Feb 20 - 02:39 AM

Th one linked is the only one I know. Never heard it referred to as a shanty.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Feb 20 - 05:26 AM

English band the Jones Boys have recorded my son John. It can be heard free at https://thejonesboys1.bandcamp.com/album/like-the-sun-a-glittering. They have also written about the song at https://thejonesboys.org/lyrics/my-son-john/. Definatly not a shanty!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: GUEST,Starship
Date: 16 Feb 20 - 10:27 AM

Then there's 'My Son Ted':

https://celtic-lyrics.com/lyrics/344.html

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Feb 20 - 05:43 PM

Again, My Son John is NOT a chantey.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 05:20 AM

"Then there's 'My Son Ted':"
We recorded it from Travellers as "My Son Tim" - It is a version of Mrs McGrath
The Irish aren't recognised as having shanties
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: GUEST,Starship
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 10:12 AM

Thanks, Jim.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 07:45 PM

The only song I know of that name is Tom Paxton's: very sad song from the Vietnam War era: describes Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder very accurately, but before the term was ever invented.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 20 - 02:41 AM

"Thanks, Jim."
You're welcome
My late friend used to tell the story of Henry Blake, the blind old Irish speaking storyteller, who lived at the very southern point of this County, Clare, where the River Shannon enters the sea.
Blake describe how he used to sit at the bottom of his garden listening to the sailors singing their shanties as they set off on their voyages - every language under the sun - a wonderfully evocative picture drawn by a blind ban.
I know that there were Irsi shanty-singers - Hugill mentioned them in his books as 'Liverpool-Irish', but nobody has ever been able to identify shanties that originated in Ireland
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 20 - 03:57 AM

Tom Munnelly's description , by the way
Jim

Subject: RE: Tune Req: My Son John (Shanty)
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 20 Feb 20 - 05:59 PM

Mrs McGrath - Dubliners