BS: Murder by USAian police

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 May 20 - 05:37 AM

I'm sure you're right.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 May 20 - 04:55 AM

In answer to you question, Bonzo, I'd go again at the drop of a hat. We stay with my cousin when we are there and meet ordinary, everyday American citizens who, like the rest of us, are mostly decent, honest and law abiding. Don't tar an entire nation with same brush as a few racist criminals.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Neil D
Date: 31 May 20 - 04:21 AM

Speaking of a language peeve, for two days every report stated that George Floyd was transported to the hospital where he later died. Having watched the video I was certain that the victim was dead before he was picked up from the ground. My wife, an RN, was able to point out the exact moment he drew his last.
Finally after two days of misinformation, the fire department issued a statement that Mr Floyd had never had a pulse from the time he was put in the ambulance. Even when paramedics used the paddles they couldn't raise one.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Senoufou
Date: 31 May 20 - 03:51 AM

This incident reminded me vividly of footage I saw, when young, (cinema newsreels) of the treatment of Jews in Germany by the Gestapo etc. Psychopathic disregard of their humanity, and evident sadistic pleasure taken in tormenting/torturing/beating/killing of defenceless civilians.
It's absolutely chilling, and I'm not surprised that riots have ensued.
It's murder, but also a racist atrocity.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 May 20 - 02:16 AM

Is trump's middle name Bob??????

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 May 20 - 11:09 PM

Stop it, WAV. This is no place for your treacle.

Murdered (alleged) would be fine also.

The whole place isn't going to Hell in a Handbasket, it just seems like it at the moment. Every time you think things under Trump couldn't get worse, he says "hold my beer."

Police and citizens marched together this evening in Camden, New Jersey, and people are trying to quickly sort out the white extremists who are trying to blow everything up from the regular peaceful protesters. Trump offering to send the military to Minneapolis probably is a stupid move (simply because anything Trump does is stupid.) The military isn't supposed to go into law enforcement situations unless it is an extreme emergency. People are hard-pressed to deal with protesters right now, but it doesn't rise to the level that the military should be called in. I'm willing to bet what Trump wants is a way to declare martial law. Make himself look real presidential, it will. Of a banana republic.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 May 20 - 11:03 PM

A related language peeve: most media are saying Died while in police custody. I was pleased my local station said Killed by police.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 May 20 - 10:30 PM

I just read about that. Sigh.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Neil D
Date: 30 May 20 - 09:34 PM

Mrrzy, there was also an incident in Louisville where a reporter and crew were shot with pepper bullets and I believe another reporter was shoved to the ground by an officer. Are we seeing the beginning of trend of widespread targeting of the media by police? After all, the free press of this country has been under attack by its Commander-in-Chief for years. The first casualty of war is truth, and if anyone thinks that's not war out there tonight, just wait a bit.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Mossback
Date: 30 May 20 - 05:57 PM

In the U S of A - Black lives DON'T matter,and haven't for quite some time- like since 1609 ??.

HEIL TRUMP!!

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 May 20 - 02:07 PM

With Trumpitler calling himself a president, nothing surprises me any more!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 May 20 - 01:37 PM

”And if they had, shooting him would have made more sense.“

Not really, Mrrzy. Far easier to claim ‘accidental’ than it would be if they shot him.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 May 20 - 01:21 PM

The USA should be run by a Council of Native Americans & those who don't like it can repatriate to Europe, Africa, etc. The Trump family, e.g., may choose Scotland or Slovenia; my poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, on "Repatriating"

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 20 - 10:38 AM

In Court my argument would prevail but beyond that Minnesota has upcharging rules that allow for 1st degree murder be considered by the jury.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 May 20 - 10:30 AM

Um, no. Intent does not form after the fact. Either they intended to kill him before the attack began, or they didn't. And if they had, shooting him would have made more sense.

And what about arresting all the nonwhite CNN guys but not the white ones?

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 20 - 10:19 AM

For three minutes after there were no signs of life in George Floyd's body, the killer maintained his knee on George's neck. That is precisely the time 3rd degree murder became first degree murder.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 20 - 10:09 AM

Yep, white cops killing black people is practicly a sport in the USA.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 20 - 09:55 AM

You have to admit the cleverness of the racist killer cop for appearing non chalant for 9 minutes, with his hands in his pockets and whistling while he worked. The cop strangled a big man to death without breaking the hyoid bone!

For all you stranglers out there, that is really hard to do.
Judges gave him a 10 for technical and a 9 on required elements.
A shout out goes to the victim for being extremely polite and cooperative throughout.

A speed record was also set. Usually it takes a white policeman a year to be charged with murdering a black man. The 3rd degree murder charges are called 'a depraved heart murder'. Manslaughter charges have also been brought. The 3 backup cops who helped as assesories have not been charged.

Subject: RE: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 May 20 - 09:27 AM

I wouldn't dream of going to the USA for any reason, mind I've got several American made instruments, mandolins.


Dave H

Subject: BS: Murder by USAian police
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 May 20 - 09:18 AM

Following the murder of George Floyd by chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer, who would ever want to visit USA again???