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Subject: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 10 Aug 22 - 10:10 AM I'm not a massive fan of bottled beer in general, but in this unusually hot weather, and after bit of overheated garden labour, I've found myself swigging large bottles of Peroni (found mysteriously present in cupboard, moved to fridge) and enjoying them bigly of an early evening. There was also a bottle of Moretti in there. It was fine but I preferred the Peroni. I remember that when we were in temperatures of 38 or 40 in Andalucía we drank beaucoup de little bottles of ice-cold CruzCampo, very nice too. I haven't seen that one here. There's a village poolside bar in the Alpujarras that had a gorgeous lager called Alhambra. I think that was my favourite. There's something about swigging from the bottle that appeals. This is going to be a hot summer weather habit only. I'm a novice at this bottled lager lark so tell me what you like. You are not, however, allowed to mention Budweiser, Carling or Fosters or zero alcohol, and it's useless if I can't buy it here. Cheers! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman Date: 10 Aug 22 - 10:55 AM Well, for medical reasons, I have to make do with the ‘alcohol-free’ version of Peroni but, as these things go, it’s reasonably palatable. But I insist on a glass - despite what some people believe, we aren’t savages out here in the Backwoods. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 10 Aug 22 - 11:05 AM Mrs Steve has taken to drinking alcohol-free beers at times. I drink the versions with alcohol for medical reasons ;-) Hey, let's not turn this into a temperance/prohibition thread! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 10 Aug 22 - 11:48 AM Budweiser Budvar - The proper stuff from the Czech Republic Staropramen from the same place Lost Lager by Brew Dog (Scotland) A few good Spanish ones hitting the market too. Cheers! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Doug Chadwick Date: 10 Aug 22 - 12:05 PM There's something about swigging from the bottle that appeals. Erm? ..... nah! I'm with BWM on the need for a glass. DC |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Rapparee Date: 10 Aug 22 - 12:06 PM Moose Drool. Bitch Creek. Midnight Satin. Belligerent Ass. Irish Death. Bad Frog. Many more. Too bad that y'all can't sample them and you are force-fed Budweiser and Coors Lite. A nice Alaska White is great on a hot day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 10 Aug 22 - 01:45 PM Some of the new bottled pale ales are very nice cold too - Particulary a double dry hopped one called Kaihe that I tried the other day. Brewed by Donkeystone abd available in Lidl :-) Mind you, that was canned rather than bottled now I think on. Still, very tasty anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel Date: 10 Aug 22 - 01:58 PM https://untappd.com/b/albani-bryggerierne-giraf-beer-10/550970 One is good, two and your face goes numb, three and you wobble, 4 and you fall down muttering about what upstanding blokes we all are. There is a curious white powder that drifts about at the bottom of the bottle but it tastes light and bright. Drinking six bottles is for medicinal purposes only. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 10 Aug 22 - 02:49 PM 10% ABV is a silly strength for beer |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman Date: 10 Aug 22 - 03:25 PM "10% ABV is a silly strength for beer" I agree. You'd be pissed as a fart before you'd had enough. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 10 Aug 22 - 05:55 PM I think I had that genuine Budweiser in Prague in 2006 (it was urgently needed to wash down the terrible dumpling-led grub that obtained at the time...) I haven't supped Stella/wifebeater for at least 25 years but remember it as OK on a summer night/drifting away. The Bude Morrisons has stacks of bottled beers of many varieties, usually near the front entrance, I suppose because of the hot weather. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Aug 22 - 06:39 AM The tale is that the US version was named and made in honour of the original. How someone could so utterly screw up an excellent beer is beyond me :-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Senoufou Date: 11 Aug 22 - 09:28 AM Ugh the lot of you! The only bottled ale worth considering is OLD SPECKLED HEN!(by Greene King) Okay? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Aug 22 - 09:45 AM Dark beers like Shiner Bock and Negra Modelo are my favorites. Bud and Coors and Miller and most of that is bleh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman Date: 11 Aug 22 - 09:57 AM I drank a substantial amount of Shiner Bock during my stays in Houston TX on business trips. I thought it was rather nice - better than the usual American non-beers posing as beers. I agree with you also about Bud (US version), Coors, and Miller. But, as I’m no longer a partaker, it’s all immaterial AFAIC… |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: G-Force Date: 11 Aug 22 - 10:16 AM Our son would drink nothing but lager until he was about forty. Then I managed to get him to have a taste of Badger Golden Champion, since when he only drinks bitter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion Date: 11 Aug 22 - 10:39 AM Lager rules in the steam heat of summer in southern Ontario, and we have so many small lical breweries that it’s impossible to taste even a representative sample. My mother claimed to have been quite unable to drink beer of any kind until she learned to mix cement — the parents were installing a new wellhead, and it was a typically tropical July in the Ottawa Valley. I’m with the Backwoodsman on the subject of drinking vessels — a glass or mug is a must. Put it in the freezer before starting your shift in the garden, and enjoy the even frostier treat when you’re finished (in at least two senses of the word). Due to weight and fragility, the beer bottle is a threatened species in these parts, as most breweries have shifted completely to tins. I will not drink from a tin if I have any choice in the matter. I keep imagining myself with a cut lip. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: gillymor Date: 11 Aug 22 - 10:49 AM I'm more of an ale drinker but I jump on Anchor's California Lager when I can find it. Old Speckled Hen is a good summertime ale, as is Golden Hen, but it's getting kind of pricey down here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Aug 22 - 11:44 AM The only bottled ale worth considering is OLD SPECKLED HEN!(by Greene King) Okay? Old Speckled Hen was brewed by Morland of Abingdon until the mega-multinational Greene King took it over and closed it down in 2000. Speckeled Hen changed for the worse as often happens when the big boys start to interfere:-( Mind you, Morland were not averse to taking over other breweries in their time! If you like Speckled Hen you are not averse to hoppy beers - Try some of the new dry hopped IPAs like I mentioned to Steve earlier. Of course I would pit anything from Holts, Hydes or Timothy Taylors against anything from a namby pamby southern brew any day of the week :-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 11 Aug 22 - 12:17 PM Well I just purchased a 12-pack of Staropramen on Dave's recommendation and my hazy memories of Prague before the hen-party fetish kicked in. The temperature in Bude exceeded 32°C today (see what I did there, Maggie?) which, to me, is cold beer weather (in spite of Mrs Steve's hardly-successful-at-all efforts to ban me on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays...), so, after pork pie and salad on the beach in a few minutes, we'll retreat to the festival tent (aka our back garden Argos pop-up gazebo) and I'll crack open one or two...or three...or... It had better be good, el Gnomo! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Aug 22 - 01:24 PM If you don't like the first one it will be fine by the 4th :-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Aug 22 - 01:46 PM G-Force - My youngest son did not drink at all until we moved to Yorkshire. He had one taste of Copper Dragon Golden Pippin (Brewed 4 miles from us) and decided it was the best thing he had ever tasted. He is now a beer connoisseur! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 11 Aug 22 - 07:08 PM Well I do like the Staropramen, Dave, but I note that it's barley malt only. It's very malty and fuller-bodied than the Nastro Azzurro so, to me, it tastes more like a drink-it-round-the-bonfire brew than a bejaysus-it's-hot-so-toss-me-a-cold-bottle-NOW brew. I'll update my thinking after I've supped the other eight bottles...Hey, she's gone to bed... The head brewer at Sharp's (the legend known as Stuart Howe) once provided us with a tasting of esoteric American and continental beers as reward for our hard work on his Doom Bar flavour panel (somebody's got to do it...). We all thought that almost all the American brews were shite.* One had so many hops in it that you could have stood a spoon up in it. Some of the Belgian and/or Trappist brews were well-liked, but most of us agreed that the star performer was Duvel, the wheat beer from Belgium. At eight-point-odd alcohol it isn't one for drinking all night, but it's dead grand as an alternative to a glass of red with a good meaty dish. It's bottle-conditioned too. *This happened in 2009 so, hopefully, things may have improved... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 12 Aug 22 - 03:21 AM Glad you enjoyed it and hope you still do this morning :-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: BobL Date: 12 Aug 22 - 03:43 AM This is weather for Wheat Beer. With or without a slice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 12 Aug 22 - 04:01 AM You just reminded me. Hoegaarden is still pretty good even if is now owned by one of the big boys. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 12 Aug 22 - 06:46 AM I must admit I have sucumbed to a Morrisons offer. Carlsberg, which is in my opinion one of the better mass produced lagers, was £4 for 4x1 pint cans. Yes, full pints. Not 440 or 500ml. Carlsberg at £1 a pint. How can a trainee Yorkshireman resist! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion Date: 12 Aug 22 - 08:40 AM American beer has improved enormously over the last 20 years, due largely to an explosion of local producers cranking out such a wide variety of brews that sooner or later everyone finds something to like. You won’t see the best stuff in the UK because only the national and international brands bother to ship abroad. The same is true in Canada. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman Date: 12 Aug 22 - 11:16 AM We’ve had a number of very nice beers during our several forays in ON, AB, and BC but the names escape me. We stopped by at the Hop ‘n’ Hog Tap & Smokehouse in Clearwater BC for dinner one evening, and the (British!) owner brought us a sampling selection of four beers, all of which were very nice indeed and, according to Mrs Backwoodsperson, went well with the Meat Platter for Two… Hop ‘n’ Hog Menu About the only Canadian beer I can recall drinking in the UK is Moosehead - not sure if it’s one of the superior brews, but it tasted fine and had the desired effect during several sailing trips up the West Coast of Scotland. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Manitas_at_home Date: 12 Aug 22 - 12:45 PM Isn't carling a Canadian beer? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Aug 22 - 12:55 PM A beer refresher from Wikipedia Lager is beer which has been brewed and conditioned at low temperature. Lagers can be pale, amber, or dark. Pale lager is the most widely consumed and commercially available style of beer. The term "lager" comes from the German for "storage", as the beer was stored before drinking – traditionally in the same cool caves it was fermented in. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion Date: 12 Aug 22 - 01:05 PM Carling is one of the original central Canadian national brewers, along with Labatt, Molson and O’Keefe. Their most popular product was Black Label. Moosehead Breweries of Saint John, New Brunswick, is the only fully independent Canadian-owned and -operated beer producer that ships internationally. When I was a youngster, a person with normal olfactory capabilities could barely tell the difference between or among the various top brands without looking at the labels. Things have definitely improved. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: gillymor Date: 12 Aug 22 - 02:30 PM Unibroue in Quebec makes some excellent Belgian style ales. I'm partial to their Maudite. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 12 Aug 22 - 06:08 PM (Valiantly trying to return the topic to lager)* There was a mix 'n' match three for a fiver deal at Tezzies today, so I bought two Nastro Azzurros and one test bottle of Budweiser Budvar, as recommended by Dave. It's in the chiller just now, but I may swig it tomorrow as we hit 35° tomorrow afternoon. Trouble is, I've promised Mrs Steve an Aperol Spritz tomorrow (aka the tastiest bloody thing on the planet - the Spritz, not Mrs Steve, although...), so I'd better go easy, as making an Aperol Spritz leaves an awful lot of spare Prosecco in the bottle that is in need of urgent use... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 12 Aug 22 - 06:09 PM (Valiantly trying to return the topic to lager)* *I'm not bothered, honest! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion Date: 12 Aug 22 - 06:11 PM The Aperol Spritz is, indeed, a lovesome thing. Y’know, there is such a thing as a vacuum stopper for fizzy wines … |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 12 Aug 22 - 06:20 PM We do not apprise Mrs Steve of that, do we, Charmion? ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Aug 22 - 07:07 PM In the interest of following along with the flow of this thread I picked up a Modelo Negra to go with dinner tonight. (Technically it is a Munich Dunkel-style lager.) Skoal! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Aug 22 - 02:36 AM Did you know that Skol lager is still going? I thought it had been consigned to the bin of bad memories along with Watney's Red bleedin' Barrel but sadly not. The only thing it has going for it is that at 2.8% in can nearly be sold in sweet shops. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 13 Aug 22 - 05:31 AM I have dim memories of Tartan Keg bitter in the early 70s, at 2.2% alcohol. You could drink eight pints and feel like a large bag of water but still be strangely sober. I rapidly graduated to Newcastle Exhibition, which I seem to remember wasn't too bad. Anyway, if I get hot and sweaty enough today (down, girls...) I might quaff that test bottle of Budvar later. I shouldn't really, as it's Aperol Spritz on hot Saturdays, but, well, after all, what is life if not but a vale of tears... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: G-Force Date: 13 Aug 22 - 08:11 AM Watney's Red Barrel, Tartan Keg, Whitbread Tankard, Ind Coope Double Diamond ... I'd forgotten how bad it used to be. Fortunately I've always lived on the fringes of the Young's empire, so decent beer was available, but you might have to travel (evening Officer!). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Aug 22 - 08:18 AM Titbread Wankard! I had forgotten that. Luckily all the crap that they tried to sell us brought about the most sucessful consumer group ever - CAMRA :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 13 Aug 22 - 09:44 AM We've all supped bad beer in our time I know, but the very worst thing ever to cross my lips was a pint of scrumpy in a pub in Dudley called the Gipsies Tent in 1973. The cider was incredibly cloudy, like the residual water of a two-week underpant wash mixed with urine, was almost lukewarm, as flat as a witch's tit and had what I can only describe as a thin layer of scum floating on top. The mates who took me in to try it had eulogised about it, possibly from a much earlier visit, but even they had to admit that it was the vomit of Satan. I didn't drink mine after the first sip. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Aug 22 - 11:11 AM Did you ever go in the Man and Scythe in Bolton, aka the cider shop, Steve? Their cider was labelled "Bulmers Original". Cloudy and flat but tasted divine and after 4 pints you didn't care anyway :-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 13 Aug 22 - 11:22 AM I supped many a time in Notlob, Dave, but I don't remember that one (there were allegedly 600 pubs in Bolton in those days!). It was generally the Lower Nag off Deansgate, the Wheatsheaf or the Golden Lion (aka Brass Cat). The latter was very nifty in that it was very close to the famous pasty shop. Our favourite Bury pub was the Hark to Dandler up Walmersley Road, or the Two Tubs just off the Rock. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Aug 22 - 02:37 PM The Man and Scythe was on the same street as Harker and Howarth's music shop. Can't remember the street name. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Bonzo3legs Date: 13 Aug 22 - 04:59 PM Back in the 60s, a favourite girls' drink in the UK was lager and lime, a fairly revolting mixture, not a patch on the stout and cider combination!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman Date: 13 Aug 22 - 05:13 PM ”not a patch on the stout and cider combination” We called that ‘Snakebite’. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Date: 13 Aug 22 - 06:24 PM Ye gods, yes, lager and lime...Not the inclusion I envisaged when I started this thread! Whose bloody idea was lager and lime! When I was at Dudley College of Ed in the early 70s I had a mate, a fellow rugby club member, who swore by "a pint of bitter with a lime top." Tosser or what! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Rain Dog Date: 14 Aug 22 - 03:39 AM Well bitter with lime is an unusual combination but I don't think that makes him a tosser. Each to their own. I am a real ale drinker. A few years back I got chatting with a couple of guys from Sheffield while I was in the pub. They told me that they could not drink the real ale down south as it was 'flat'. I said that is because we don't need any sparklers to give it an artifical head. Each to their own I guess. We are all creatures of habit to some extent. |
