Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 24 - 08:32 AM

A good cognitive test would be to have Nikki, Joe, and Donald as contestants on Jeopardy.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 24 - 03:43 PM

OK I understand that Christians chose a magic Jew as their Messiah but why did they choose a narcissistic atheist for their second coming?

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 21 Jan 24 - 05:12 PM

Ron DeSantis withdraws from Republican presidential race, endorses Trump

"Ron DeSantis announced his withdrawal from the race on social media

"He finished a distant second behind former president Donald Trump in last week's Iowa caucuses

"Nikki Haley is now the last Republican in the contest with a shot of denying Mr Trump the nomination"

The article also analyses DeSantis' campaign issues and failures.


Donuel said, "OK I understand that Christians chose a magic Jew as their Messiah but why did they choose a narcissistic atheist for their second coming?" but I think you are missing the obvious.

In my opinion, he's not the Second Coming, he is the Anti-Christ. It fits with his narcissistic personality and his power plays and his manipulation of facts into lies. And he didn't raise people from the dead, he sent a huge number to their deaths by COVID.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 24 - 09:12 AM

After one whole term of being lazy
Like an old man he's half asleep
Now it seems that he's half crazy
but is mean as a lieing creep
Trump is not a new sensation
He's done pretty well I think
But this half-ton imitation
is circling down the sink

He's wild again, beguiled again
A simpering, whimpering child again
Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he
He's alot like villain John Wilkes Booth
When he tweets he decrees what our eyes should see
Bewitched, he's allergic to the truth

Lost the vote, but so what of it
He is old I agree
He can laugh, and we love it
Although the laugh's on me
Pastors sing to him, folks bring to him
Donations for lawyers that cling to him

Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he
He's a fool and don't I know it
But a fool can have his charms
He's confused and he really shows it
Revenge will be his harm
He's the same old sad sensation
Lately I've not slept a wink
Since this half-ton imitation
Washed rights down the sink

He's sinned a lot; I mean a lot
He's like a repeat craven felon
Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he
The fringe loves him, but I CRINGE from him
Some worship the red tie that clings to him
Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he

When he talks, he is seeking
Hatred to get off his chest
with his word salad speaking, he's at his very best
Vexed again, perplexed again
As God, he wants us obcessed again
Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he

Wise at last, my eyes at last
Are cutting him down to size at last
Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered no more
Burned a lot, we've learned a lot
And now he thinks he beat Barak,
Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered no more

For all we know he is dyspeptic
Sanity is a real no go
I hope the election's antiseptic
I hope he's locked in Mar Lago
Donald Trump, finis, your chance, finis
Those ants that invaded our House, finis
Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered no more

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jan 24 - 10:49 AM

The Sanctimonious one has withdrawn, leaving Nikki Haley as the last woman standing, except she's a Trump toady who has said she will pardon the bastard if he is convicted, leaving him to roll around golf courses the rest of his life. He belongs in prison, and she can go work in some 9-5 office where she isn't causing any harm.

My first Biden/Harris political purchase should arrive in the mail today. A t-shirt. I don't put bumper stickers on the car, I don't want it keyed, but I can pick and choose where to wear the shirt. :)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 05:18 PM

An interesting analysis of Nikki Haley's possible chances and strategies and Trumps' (predictable) anger at not getting a higher result:

Donald Trump's anger in New Hampshire followed a primary win that exposed some weakness

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 05:24 PM

Mother Jones posted on Threads today that if they run headlines about Trump from now on they will appear like this:

Florida Man Facing 91 Criminal Counts Wins New Hampshire Primary
Donald Trump defeats Nikki Haley.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 05:25 PM

He is going to be your next president. I do hope I am wrong but I can't see any other outcome. I am sorry for you and fear for the rest of the world. :-(

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 05:34 PM

The view from the UK is so pessimistic. And wrong. And you don't listen to us, telling that Trump doesn't have a chance in hell of winning. He's pushing all of the boundaries he can, but in the end, cheaters won't prosper. Ignore the polls, and ignore what Trump himself says (but believe him when he tells you how he would behave).

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 06:03 PM

Once again I hope that in November you will say "I told you so".

But it's not just the view from the UK. A lot of the world press is fearing the worst and I have relatives in the US who are making tentative arrangements to move in with us while they look for a house here next year!

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 07:54 PM

A Trump voter in NH explained why he'd still support Trump in November even if he's convicted of felonies. Can you guess the answer?

















"Because all the charges are phony and any conviction would eventually be overturned by the Supreme Court."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 08:53 PM

The Republican primary results simply tell what Republican voters think of the Republican candidates. The democratic vote between the final candidates in November will show what voters want.

It ain't over until the obese orange one whinges in November.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 10:34 PM

We've heard enough of the view from the UK if that's all you have to offer, it doesn't need to be repeated (which is about as annoying as anything can be in this day and age). At a more granular local level here we're all working on it.

Democrats in various local areas where primaries are happening have been asking if they should support Haley to try to keep Trump out of the election, but Trump is the face of the brand and the malignancy that need to be defeated; if the GOP should end up with Haley and were she to be elected we'd have a Trump sycophant who would pardon him of any federal crimes and let him go on his merry way. Best to defeat Trump himself and be done with it.

The civil trial by E. Jean Carroll about defamation should resume tomorrow after a COVID scare earlier in the week. It is about ready to wrap up.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 11:05 PM

From my home in Oz, and with no real stake in the outcome except in relation to world politics, I'm going with Joe Biden's statement: let the voters decide.

I'm also inclined to think that there are possibly enough voters who are keeping their cards close to their chests with regards to Trump, and probably waiting to see the outcomes of the various legal trials he will have to get through. I think that those voters are more likely to judge him according to the outcomes of his legal battles and I really think there could be enough right-thinking people who would reject him as a president if he loses some or all of those battles.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 05:21 AM

DAVOS is famous for its wrong predictions. I agree with Stilly that Europe is wrong overall about another Trump Presidency.

Also, election interference techniques are complicated with AI voice fraud techniques already.

An unlikely Trump opponent is returning. JOHN STEWART !

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 06:32 AM

Trump Wants:
The economy to crash (in his own words)
The border to remain open during Biden's term
Abortion ban to be nationwide
to be reelected
Ukraine to be defeated
Affordable Healthcare banned


These things are not what my neighbors want.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 11:37 AM

Much of the recent conflicting opinion squabble has been deleted; no one needs to resume the caustic tone that was featured a while back. This thread is mainly about Trump's trials and his campaign. Let's keep it that way.

Today the E. Jean Carroll trial resumes, with Carroll again set to testify. From the CNN update link this morning:

Lawyers for E. Jean Carroll have rested her case against Donald Trump in the civil trial to determine how much in damages, if any, he will have to pay the former magazine columnist for his 2019 defamatory statements following her sex assault allegations.

The plaintiffs called three witnesses including Carroll who testified last week while Donald Trump sat at the defense table making audible comments for which he was admonished by the judge.

Carroll is seeking at least $10 million in damages for the 2019 defamatory statements.

In a separate trial last year, a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation similar statements he made in 2022. The jury awarded Carroll $5 million in damages.

Meanwhile, Trump's attorney in the trail, Alina Habba, begged off of court this week because she felt sick, resulting in a trial postponement, only to turn up at a New Hampshire political event. A reporter who busted her for the stunt got kicked out of the NH event.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 11:39 AM

I am aghast at Trumpian politics and glad that it is guaranteed that he will not be elected. Come November I shall be the amongst the first to congratulate those who made that promise:-)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 12:08 PM

Bad news for Trump - a huge thorn in his side is returning to The Daily Show on the Comedy Central network for the rest of the campaign year. As mentioned above, Jon Stewart to return to ‘The Daily Show’ as a host and executive producer

“In our age of staggering hypocrisy and performative politics,” McCarthy added, “Jon is the perfect person to puncture the empty rhetoric and provide much-needed clarity with his brilliant wit.”

Stewart gained acclaim hosting “The Daily Show” for his sharp humor which was deployed to deliver stinging — and hilarious — monologues often aimed at exposing the hypocrisy of politicians.

With the 2024 election featuring Joe Biden and Donald Trump, Stewart is likely to have no shortage of material to work with. Stewart has been a strong critic of Trump and will undoubtedly use the platform to needle the former president.

Stewart’s return to the venerable show is sure to generate significant excitement and provide a much-needed jolt of buzz to boost the show, which has struggled to find its footing in recent times.

"Needle" is putting it mildly. Stewart's jabs connect when he targets Trump, and Trump hates it.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 12:13 PM

91 INDICTMENTS are but a small sliver of the subject of Trumpian cult grievance-chaos politics and racist fascism.
To assume a simple overview of these issues are irrelevant and should be expunged is myopic in my opinion, especially after it is decreed that no new Trump threads are allowed.

To nearly quote Ben Franklin, for now, we have a Republic if we can keep it.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 12:29 PM

Sorry, I misspelled Jon Stewart. John Stewart was born in Virginia to Baptists of mixed European and African descent in 1786.
Jon Stewart is born and bred in NYC.

Successfully mocking dictators is an age-old valuable strategy in overcoming such villains. Jon does this very well.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 03:02 PM

> The view from the UK is so pessimistic.

It reminds us right-pondians too much of some more-painful-than-somewhat episodes of our own recent history, which we neglected to do enough about till it was far too late. It doesn't help that our papers thrive on using scary headlines to increase their sales.

> And wrong.

I really, really hope so. All we can do from this distance is worst-case planning for potential fallout .... and that last word was chosen carefully: "Si vis pacem, para bellum", an' all that.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 03:50 PM

Well said, MaJoC.

I was thinking of a similar quote, "hope for the best but prepare for the worst".

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 04:24 PM

Donuel, those are not the things my neighbors want either.

Except for "re-elected."

What they want is Trump. Many "dislike him personally," but "he did a lot of good things for this country," and they will vote for him enthusiastically in November.

Many don't "want" so much as "fear."

What they fear, in no particular order, includes:

Government seizure of firearms.

The government sending jobs to China and Mexico   

Illegal immigrants stealing jobs, smuggling drugs, killing Americans, voting Democrat, and getting free health care and welfare benefits while they slowly become the majority in what's left of the country.

Unelected "activist" judges who twist the law because they were appointed by Clinton, Obama, or Biden.

"Democrat wars" and support for Ukraine, which has nothing to do with us.

Biden and his "crime family" "selling us out" to China for millions in bribes.

Universities that teach atheism, lies, and Marxism.

The removal of statues of American heroes and the renaming of military bases in the South named for Confederate officers, who were just as patriotic as Union officers.

Kamala Harris becoming President.

Hunter Biden getting away with crime because he's a Biden.

Powerful elites who despise ordinary Americans.

Blue states with sanctuary cities and "blue juries."

Persecution of Christians.

The mainstream media that lie about conservatives and won't report the truth.

Federal meddling in our lives.

Regulatory agencies.

Time- and money-wasting sensitivity training.

Islamic terrorists coming from Mexico.

Muslims.

Immigrant kids who speak "strange languages" that "nobody knows" packing our schools and making teaching impossible.

Government and private censorship of MAGA speech.

Legalized abortion.

George Soros.

Laws and lawsuits that hamstring police.

The "Deep State."

The "administrative state."

School shootings that Democrats won't prevent by arming teachers.

Government health care that tells people what doctor they can see and what treatment they can get, and that takes taxpayer cash to treat and give free, overpriced drugs to alcoholics, dope addicts, and other freeloaders.

Dangerous vaccines that don't work anyway.

Doctors who shill for the crooked vaccine manufacturers.

A fascistic government "ordering" people to wear useless, harmful masks in a pandemic.

Climate-change "loons" who want to destroy business and industry and make everyone buy electric stoves and vehicles they don't want and can't afford.

A "weaponized" Justice Department "coming after" Americans for speaking out against the Biden "regime."

The highest crime rates in American history.

The highest taxes in American history.

The worst inflation in American history.

The collapsing American economy.

The "weak," "bumbling," "senile" "tyrant" "Crooked Joe" and his shadowy "handlers" who tell him what to do.

The Socialist "Squad."

Globalists.

Transsexuals.

Gay marriage and the destruction of the family.

Influential fools who teach that America is a Democrat democracy when it's "really" a Republican republic.

LGBTQ teachers "grooming" our kids.

Kids being taught they can choose their own gender.

Teachers telling white kids they and their families are racists responsible for slavery.

Teachers telling black kids they'll always be victims because America is fundamentally racist.

The "woke mob."

"Cancel culture."

The "weakness" and "wokeness" of our military.

Foreign countries "laughing at us" for our stupidity and weakness.

Membership in NATO, which costs us billions and will get us into war.

Biden's high gas prices.

Non-MAGA politicians, who are mostly crooked and un-American.

Elections carefully rigged against conservatives.

Hollywood pushing immorality on our kids.

The Big Lie that Biden won fair and square.

Judges who dismiss the proof that Biden cheated.

A rogue FBI and CIA spying on, framing, and imprisoning American patriots.

Liberal news that smears Trump by taking remarks "out of context" and/or not acknowledging he was "just being sarcastic."

Critical race theory.

BLM mobs burning cities like Portland while liberal mayors look the other way.

The replacement of truthful American history with Marxist Liberal lies and distortions.

The railroading by corrupt DAs and judges, under Biden's orders, of America's "true leader," Donald Trump.


Quite a list. Quite a collective nightmare. Everything in quotes is an actual quote. I have heard or read of every one of these fears from actual Trump supporters.

For MAGA voters these are, in varying degrees, the "real issues."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jan 24 - 04:56 PM

As for real issues, they have to be real to be real. Belief on the other hand trumps reason and fact. Its how religion works too.
For the most part your list is a collection of post-hypnotic suggestions that only serve Trump and his cronies.

As for his MAGA cronies, Trump is turning on many of them with extreme passion. Any dissent and he responds with threats and vows to blacklist the families, donors and friends of the RHINOS. This vindictive paranoid behavior is typical of Hitler, Stalin, and other dictators who go so far as to kill their own 'fiends', I mean friends.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 11:53 AM

But none of this matters because he cannot possibly be re-elected.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 01:17 PM

Michael Tomasky in The New Republic. I think he's right on, at least where I live:

"Support for Democrats has shriveled in rural America to near nonexistence, such that it is now next to impossible to imagine Democrats being elected to public office at nearly any level in about two-thirds of the country.... Right-wing media took over in these places and convinced people who live in them that liberals are all God-hating superwoke snowflakes who are nevertheless also capable of destroying civilization.... If someone had formed a liberal Sinclair [a popular right-wing network] 20 years ago to gain reach into rural and small-town America, that story would be very different today."

Las Vegas odds-makers now pick Trump to win November:

More on MAGA:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trumps-followers-still-love-103005015.html

The godfather of all this, if there was only one, was radio commentator Rush Limbaugh, who started the radical-populist ball rolling around 1990 and was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by DJT thirty years later.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 02:16 PM

The jury in the E. Jean Carroll case have been charged with deciding the penalty Trump must pay.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 02:52 PM

The Vegas odds link:


https://www.vegasinsider.com/odds/us-presidential-election/

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 05:37 PM

If you haven't heard, an hour ago the jury hit Trump for $83 million.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 05:50 PM

Good news, Lighter!! But I'm sure it's just small change for Trump. And I am also sure he will appeal the decision.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 06:47 PM

> I'm sure it's just small change for Trump

I've just been told [Herself, pri comm] that the jury set the penalty .... and methinks they'll have gone by his *reported* level of wealth. Words like "hoist" and "petard" come to mind. How he gets the monies is left as an exercise for the cynic.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 07:18 PM

By the time he pays off Carroll and the 350 million or so the State of New York attorney general is asking for (a summary judgment has already found him guilty of inflating those values - the judge needs to name the penalty) pundits figure Trump is going to have to start selling properties to pay the bills.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 09:53 PM

It has already changed his behavior. He did not continue to defame Jean tonight. While an appeal may cut the amount we seem to be speaking his language now.

Navarro and Steve Bannon both got 4 months in jail. Fox News Corp is looking at a 2.7 billion dollar lawsuit from Smartmatic voting machines.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 26 Jan 24 - 10:02 PM

Is there any information available on whether the numbers of people attending his rallies and events are significantly less than in his 2016 campaign? I'm thinking that that might be an indication of whether he is losing support from the people who would have voted for him back then.

I'm wondering whether there is a site which has comparative statistics.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 27 Jan 24 - 08:05 AM

He received eleven million more votes in 2020 than in 2016.

2016: 63 million.

2020: 74 million.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 27 Jan 24 - 10:33 AM

Trump follower:

"I don't care how much they gave her. It didn't happen. If it happened, why didn't she scream? Why did she wait thirty years to bring charges? Nobody saw anything. And these judges won't let him defend himself in court.

"Plus it was a New York jury. They hate Trump in New York."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 27 Jan 24 - 12:58 PM

Thanks Lighter for the info on votes in 2020 compared with 2016. It will be interesting to compare with this year's votes.

I'm wondering whether his supporter numbers are less since his legal troubles began and I'm thinking the attendance numbers at his rallies and events might be an indication.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 09:06 AM

Make America Wait Again...

to address
Climate change,
Immigration reform,
Racial harmony,
Gun reform,
Responsible journalism,
Federalism,
Electoral College (somehow worse than real college)
A political Supreme Court
Free Elections


That is if Trump wins.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 12:43 PM

I think E. Jean Carroll will be interviewed again on the Rachel Maddow Show on Monday (Jan. 29 on MSNBC). She is 80 and is going to have to wait through appeals and foot dragging, but Trump has to already cough up the money so it is for now in limbo in the court coffers. She says she has to think about what to do with it (foundation-wise, one assumes), but for now, she plans to start giving her two dogs premium dog food. This is the woman who Trump insists is dining out on the fame and proceeds of his past attention.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 01:41 PM

Trump supporter in Las Vegas (CNN):

"Trump is doing God's work for this country, and that's why I'll stay with him to the end."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 02:35 PM

An interview on Australian TV:

Bernie Sanders says US is facing an inequality crisis and Donald Trump is not the answer

"Bernie Sanders doesn't blame ordinary Americans for succumbing to the appeal of Donald Trump.

"'I want the people of Australia to understand it's not because everybody who votes for Trump is a racist, or a sexist or a homophobe,' US Senator Sanders told 7.30.

"According to Senator Sanders, the leader of the US progressive movement who campaigned twice for nomination for president, much of the response to Mr Trump is driven by economic conditions.

"'Millions of people are hurting, they're suffering,' Senator Sanders said."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 02:46 PM

I thought I had linked this article from the Royal Society before but I cannot find it now. Makes a lot of sense and explains the appeal to so many.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 03:02 PM

I think Bernie is living in the past.

I don't believe Trump or any of associates has ever said a word about raising wages, strengthening unions, or addressing economic problems other than slapping tariffs on imports. They're not even promising more tax cuts (but wait till the election gets closer).

After more than a decade, Republicans still offer no replacement for Obamacare for the non-wealthy, which they continually promise to revoke.

Low wages and the like undoubtedly contribute to the broad resentment of American society by many working-class GOP supporters, but they rarely mention it, except to assert that immigrants are going to steal their jobs and sponge off their taxes.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 03:13 PM

Lighter, did you read the whole article? I couldn't decide which bits to quote because it was all relevant.

I think what he said is fairly similar to what you just said.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 04:56 PM

More from the article I quoted from in the interview with Bernie Sanders:

"'The average American worker today, his or her wages are lower than they were 50 years ago, parents are worried about their kids who might have a lower standard of living than they do,' Senator Sanders said.

"'People are feeling that government does not listen, does not understand their pain. And they are turning to somebody who says: 'Forget all of that. I've got the answer. Don't worry about democracy. I'll take care of it for you.'

"While Senator Sanders doesn't blame ordinary Americans for putting their faith in former president Trump, he says the consequences of a Trump victory would be dire for the entire world.

"'Everything is at stake … If the United States moves in an authoritarian way, it will certainly send a signal to every country on Earth that, that's the future of politics.' Senator Sanders said of Donald Trump.

"'He's a phoney, he's a pathological liar. But I'm afraid his appeal is working.'"

.....

"'I don't want to speculate about the what-ifs, what should have happened, Biden is the candidate and our job is … to make it very clear that Biden has done some good things … I think he's not getting the credit for what he has done.'

"'What we have got to make clear to ordinary Americans is you may not like everything that Biden has done, maybe you think he's too old … but you know what? The alternative is a hell of a lot worse'."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 29 Jan 24 - 04:15 PM

I didn't read the article, Helen. Thanks for posting more of it.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jan 24 - 07:00 PM

I HAVE BEEN TOLD GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS SO "Trump IS doing God's work for this country, and that's why I'll stay with him to the end."

EX General Flynn is doing all the church work on that end of the Trump campaign.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Jan 24 - 10:20 PM

Rachel Maddow and E. Jean cut Trump down to size this evening. The introduction was excellent - giving an overview of the journalistic career of Elizabeth Jean Carroll. And the revelation that E. Jean made in court - he's not so big and isn't scary when he's cut down to size in court. He doesn't like it when the judge has him under control.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jan 24 - 06:32 PM

Jean looked at Trump, sized him up, and saw he was a big nothing.

The chair of the RNC tried to publicly cancel the primary vote by declaring Trump the winner now that he has 32 of the 1,215 delegate votes required to win. That is like dismissing 69 million voters.
It is such a bad look for the Republican Party that they walked it back. Canceling elections sounded like the easy MAGA thing to do.