Help: public domain for Irish folksongs?

Subject: public domain for Irish folksongs?
From:
Date: 16 May 00 - 01:00 PM

Am looking for documentation re: Molly Malone; Whiskey in the Jar; The Orange & the Green etc. When first appeared in folksong rep.

Subject: RE: Help: public domain for Irish folksongs?
From: MMario
Date: 16 May 00 - 01:16 PM

The ballad index does not list either author or earliest date for either Molly Malone or Whiskey in the Jar.

Subject: RE: Help: public domain for Irish folksongs?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 May 00 - 01:16 PM

This isn't by any chance a Harry Fox operation is it?

Finding out the history of songs, and when they got collected and who may have written them and how they may have changed over the yeqrs is one thing, and a bvery good thing too.

But "looking for documentation" as to when songs "first appeared in folksong rep". That sounds different.

If I'm being unduly suspicious, forgive my paranoia.

Subject: RE: Help: public domain for Irish folksongs?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 May 00 - 01:29 PM

If you go to the "Digitrad and Forum Search" box on the main Forum page and type in (one at a time!) the titles you're interested in, you will certainly find a lot of previous discussions on these songs, some of which may answer your questions -insofar as it is ever possible to be sure of such matters...

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Help: public domain for Irish folksongs?
From: MMario
Date: 16 May 00 - 01:32 PM

okay - Molly Malone appeared at least as early as 1884 attributed to James Yorkston, and there is evidence that Whiskey in the Jar was extant before 1860 (because an australian parody has been found that is traced to that time)