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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 04 Jun 00 - 02:11 PM To put the "fat" thing in proportion, here is a quote in this week's Sunday paper from Mo Mowlem, the most popular minister in the British Cabinet with the public (but not, it is said with Tony Blair):
"I don't believe in dieting. If I want to get thinner and wear a swimming costume, I'll have to cut out whisky and potatoes but you only have one life, so why not enjoy it? |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jun 00 - 02:32 PM What the hell kind of casserole is whisky and potatoes? Just doesn't sound too good together although both are fine individually. And what does this have to do with swimming? Is he afraid of getting a cramp or what? Spaw (trying to deteriorate this simpleass thread into oblivion) |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST,Lee Date: 04 Jun 00 - 03:09 PM John Evans, If you're serious I've found World Vision to be an excellent organisation with which to be associated. They do sensational work. Lee |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 04 Jun 00 - 04:21 PM In case anyone who followed Frank of Harlow's link to Jonathan Swift's proposal didn't realise this, the Irish-born Swift was neither a monster nor given to jokes in bad taste. His game was satire. I guess Spaw really takes the biscuit (which will not help him lose weight) for sneaking back into this thread after unilaterally declaring it dead with posting number 92. Obviously he's angling for the last word whatever number posting it takes. In which case we should be able to spin this thread out till it makes the record books.... Margo's right to blame the USA's lead in the obesity stakes on a rotten diet, but wrong to make excuses for that rotten diet. A banana is just as convenient as a bar of candy, and it comes in a biodegradable wrapper. As for all that ernest debate about soda, some way up the thread, what's wrong with unsweetened fruit juice, and even plain old nil-calory water? So diet's part of it, but so is sedentary lifestyle, which hasn'thad much of a mention yet. At least I pedal 10-15 miles regularly to the nearest towns round here, but I'm still overweight. We're designed to do much more physical work than we actually do. Finally (not that I'm trying to do a Spaw) the reason we Brits are so panicked by what's going on over there is because we see ourselves heading in the same direction, just like lemmings. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 04 Jun 00 - 08:02 PM Naw Fionn - there's Frank McGrath of Nenagh, and Kevin McGrath of Harlow. I was the one with the link to The Modest Proposal(the point being that when it comes to offending the well-fed bourgeousie, John Evans was being pretty gentle about it compared to the righteous Dean Swift).
And spaw, Mo is short for Maureen, and she's the one who made the right moves in getting the peace process in Northern Ireland on track at a crucial time.
Whiskey and potatoes are a fine balanced diet. You mix them up, but inside you. Or if you've the skill the potatoes make good poitin too. A versatile fruit indeed. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST Date: 04 Jun 00 - 08:04 PM mo mowlam is a woman catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jun 00 - 09:21 PM Great.....I'm now enlightened which should make me less fat................. Sorry Fionn.......This thread caused a boatload of xenophobic and other crappola and I should have known better than to suggest we kill it. It went about 14 hours and I was hopeful, but it didn't happen. Next I tried completely stupid BS that was so worthless that I figured it would send the thing into the shitter....But I forgot that this was Mudcat and we have a great need to answer everything. Did you ever read the "Condom Thread?" Started simply because Art was fed up with all the boilerplate threads like "Where do Mudcatters Live" and about 15 others like it......Art starts the condom thing to point up how silly we were becoming and sure enough it went rocketing past the rest. Oh well............... So why do y'all call cookies biscuits and biscuits scones? Don't you think it would be good ta git yerseffs all fixed up rite with the language seeuns as ta how yer English an all? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Jon Freeman Date: 04 Jun 00 - 09:45 PM No spaw, we call cookies, a type of biscuit, cookies but scones aren't any form of biscuit. Come to that, assuming that I'm right in thinking a Graham cracker is like a digestive biscuit, why do you call it a cracker when it is quite obviously a biscuit, and what do you call crackers? Why do you fill your cars with a liquid and call it gas?... ;-) Jon (Who in case anybody misses the ;-) is only joking)
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jun 00 - 10:10 PM We call it gas because in its leaded variation it smells like a pork roast fart. Also it worked out better for Woody when he wrote,
So I swapped my farm for a Ford machine Now that'd sound plumb stupid with "petrol" now wouldn't it? Come to think of it, its pretty stupid anyway. Now "crackers" are thin crispy little jobbies like saltines......and also the name of rednecks in the Georgia/Florida country. Though you can eat the first, I wouldn't advise it with the second, even if his name IS Cookie, unless you have a copy of "Dueling Banjos" handy....and a big club. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Jon Freeman Date: 04 Jun 00 - 10:23 PM Sorry spaw,
I swapped my farm for a car to have some fun Jon |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST,Starfish Date: 04 Jun 00 - 10:39 PM Hello! I was just wondering how much longer this thread will get? |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jun 00 - 10:44 PM ....Had a feelin'something like that was coming. But Jon, first they were getting shoved off their land and HAD to move on so it don't seem like much fun to me. And additionally, if they'd been driving an English car, they'couldn't have had any fun since it would have required stopping for repairs every half mile or so and not going out after dark at all!!! Its a little known fact, but during the "Blitz," Londoners did not voluntarily observe blackouts.......It was simply that all the lighting in the city had been supplied by Joe Lucas. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST,John Date: 04 Jun 00 - 10:46 PM Ahhh! Fooled ye!! |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jun 00 - 10:52 PM Well Starfish, hopefully its becoming so silly (believe me Jon and I are trying) and so long that the load time will preclude anything else being posted of any real import. Unless some idiot starts a part two, an action which should result in a public caning, I figure its about crapped out. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST,Starfish Date: 04 Jun 00 - 10:54 PM Agreed! |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 05 Jun 00 - 06:55 AM a coda to the thread |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST,Starfish Date: 05 Jun 00 - 07:10 AM Well, that puts a whole different slant on it, doesn't it? 'Spaw will be pleased |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 05 Jun 00 - 05:46 PM I just have to come back once more, if only to apologise to McGrath of Harlow. but I'm bound to get in a muddle Kevin, when a name gets to more than two words long. And thanks for bringing farts back into it Spaw - I tried to turn the thread in that direction right up near the top. Truly we are two nations divided by a common language, or whatever GBS said. See y'all in another thread. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jun 00 - 09:48 PM |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: JedMarum Date: 20 Sep 00 - 09:36 AM |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: kendall Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:10 AM Plenty of food, but, poor nutrition |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: flattop Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:56 AM Why would you resurrect this thread, Jed? Do you want us to wade through the same old cesspools in our barefeet? Can't you think of a fresh and controversial topic that would allow us to be malicious and cruel while we pretend that we are the most kind and sensitive folk singers with only the best political correct intentions? Couldn't you at least have rephrased the question in a sly and interesting manner so that we could have sent 100 debauched messages before someone pointed out in a blue clicky that we'd dealt with the same crap elsewhere? Cordially, fla You originally wrote: >>Does American the marketplace 'consume' significantly more than that of the developing counties? Almost ceratinly so - does that mean that Americans eat five times the food of those in the rest of the world? Bullshit! Is this discussion not one more example of some asshole trying to prove that the American's are better off then those in (some) other countries because we "stole' their piece of the pie. Most assuredly! |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST,Katchoo Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:07 AM Stop fucking talking and click through at http://www.thehungersite.com/ and salve your first world middle class conciousnesses. Thank Yew Katchoo xx |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: JedMarum Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:32 AM Ooops! Sorry folks. The last thing I wanted to do was bring up this thread again. I looked it it up to quote for another thread. I didn't want to re-open this old wound. Sorry about that! |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: flattop Date: 20 Sep 00 - 12:29 PM Sorry Jed. Simple mistake. Made one myself once. You can't leave opportunites for people like me to jump in with both feet. We do. I'm a bad one to have around the scene of an accident. Again, I'm sorry. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 20 Sep 00 - 02:29 PM Well, now that it's posted again,...
... Because Americans are the most unhappy.
The wor'dly race may riches chase |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 20 Sep 00 - 03:14 PM As Katchoo said, click on the hunger site - and do it every day, and stick it on your e-mail signature. It's not a lot, but it's something. If we all did it, it'd be quite a big little something.
I'm still puzzled why anybody found this question and this thread particularly offensive, but since they did, let's tiptoe quietly away and let it fall off the page. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Ely Date: 20 Sep 00 - 04:05 PM I don't understand SUV's. My parents shuttled two kids (plus friends and camping gear) in a Toyota Tercel for 12 years. Nobody killed anybody else--my parents talked to us and played music on the tape player to keep us entertained and there were never catastrophes. And, we can now sit in the car for 14 hours straight and not lose our minds (well, it's a handy skill in Texas). Actually, soda is bad for you, period. I don't mean just the sugar, either. It causes osteoporosis. I forget the exact mechanics of it, though (something to do with the carbonation?). Colas are supposed to be the worst. I like chicken fried steak on occasions (in general, I rarely eat meat) but even the 12 & under kid's portions were so big I stopped ordering it. I am not a small person but I just couldn't eat it (and I don't care for cold white gravy!). |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: MichaelAnthony Date: 21 Sep 00 - 02:34 PM Not sure if any one mentioned conditions like thyroid disease and depression, etc...to be fair some are fat because of that. I know that doesn't really answer the question about why Americans are so fat... |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Jon Freeman Date: 21 Sep 00 - 02:42 PM I can't believe that people (not you Jed) seem to want to keep this thread alive. It upset a lot of people at the time and in fact proved to be the last straw for one regular poster here. Just my opionion but isn't this one just best left to disappear again? Jon |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Elise Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:02 PM Could be all the Kraft mac and cheese... |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: bflat Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:30 PM Maybe because we are so social. People always want to get together and that leads to eating together. Maybe it is depression because we hate the pace and expectations of our lives and eat to assuage our true feelings. Maybe it is the feeling of big is better which seems to be an American ethos. Step in tune; step in tune!! Maybe we are sick. bflat |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:39 PM Why are Americans so fat? Go to Cuba and you will see why. In America there is: Too much TV. Too many Nintendos. Too many consumer goods. Too much advertising. Too much media. Too much loneliness and isolation. Too much money in place of all other considerations. Too many "labour-saving" devices, such as the TV remote. Too many pointless lawsuits. Too many cell phones. Too many cars. Too many fast food joints. Too much junk food. Too much social inequity. Too many slums and needless poverty. Too little medical coverage. Too much talk ABOUT freedom, too little practice of same. Not enough real life. Not enough community. And not enough love. Cuba ain't perfect (by no means), but it beats America in all of the above areas. I live in Canada, where, I am sad to say, it is much the same as in the USA, except that we do at least have the free medical coverage...until the neo-conservative politicians get around to taking it away, that is...which is certainly their present objective...and may they rot in the Hades of their own choice where they can eat dollar bills after everything else has been ruined and obliterated. By the way, this does not change the fact that most Americans and Canadians are fine and thoroughly likeable people...despite the unreality of our respective social systems. People's innate goodness has a way of triumphing over the odds, when it is given time to mature through experience, and gain compassion. So don't take my posting above as a criticism of YOU. It is not intended as such. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: hesperis Date: 21 Sep 00 - 11:26 PM Ordinary medical services are covered in Canada, but often not the stuff that actually cures people!!! Health Canada seems to me to just be a subsidy for the big drug companies, to the detriment of real health. But at least they take care of broken bones and other acute injuries fairly well. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:01 AM Plump Americans hit airline profits". Could this be the one language they understand? LOL! |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Nick Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:01 AM If this continues by the year 2804 the average American will weigh the same as a female African elephant. Huge opportunities for door manufacturers, furniture designers, house builders etc etc |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Nick Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:02 AM Designer shoes may take a bit of a bashing though. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:48 AM Was this a JOhn from Hull thread before his keyboard got dyslexia? RtS PS Why is dyslexia so difficult to spell? Why does monosyllabic have so many syllables? Where's me tea? |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Nick Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:10 AM Daily sex. Can't beat it. Can't spell it. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Ellenpoly Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:24 AM OK, I've only skimmed this thread, but rather than start a whole new one, I'm going to say the unthinkable... Why are so many Mudcatters so fat? I mean no disrespect here, but I've also been looking at the Events Pics, and children, there is not a gaunt or starved looking soul amongst us. On the contrary, there's enough heft to sink a not-so-small three masted schooner. So, come on- WESTERNERS are a bunch of fatties. Are you by chance suggesting we all diet and send the extra oreos to Sudan? I'll volunteer to cut back my caloric intake in the form of junk food, if everyone else will. Any takers? Hmmmm somehow I think not... ;-D ..xx..e |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Kim C Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:30 AM This isn't just an American problem, though. I picked up a German magazine - I believe it was Focus - awhile back, that had a huge spread on obesity in Germany. I think most of us who live in a desk-job culture are finding ourselves with a little more padding in the seat. Our time-saving gadgets save us so much time, that we cram so many things into the "saved" time, till we don't have time to take care of ourselves. And our desk jobs are sometimes so ridiculous, that by the time we get home in the evening, all we want to do is spread out on the couch. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Maryrrf Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:35 AM This morning I had to pick up 8 dozen donuts at Krispy Kreme for an office event. I see why Americans are so fat - the place was mobbed. I might eat a Krispy Kreme once in a blue moon but lots of people eat stuff like this on a daily basis -and it's fattening. You could see the donuts frying in hot oil and then being coated by being run through a waterfall of sugar glaze. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: The Beast of Farlington Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:48 AM Mmm...fat Americans...I can only eat one, though. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: muppett Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:59 AM Now, now children we're bickering again stop it or you wont get your pocket money this weekend, now come on kiss & make up. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: The Beast of Farlington Date: 05 Nov 04 - 11:13 AM Eh? |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: muppett Date: 05 Nov 04 - 11:38 AM Not you beast it's t'other folk I'm on abart. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Nov 04 - 05:31 PM You're mistaken, Ellenpoly. I am lean and trim. Look at my photos if you don't believe it. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: Bill D Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:55 PM Ellenpoly...I am 87.0237% sure that there is 'some' relationship between being overweight and our hobbies/avocations. If one geneticly tends toward fat, it is not as likely one will take up ski jumping or rollerskating. Singing...or sewing...or painting is much easier to do. This is obviously not a hard & fast rule, but it can affect what you have noticed, a 'tendency' for folkies to be above average in weight. Add to that our fondness for beer and conviviality, and you get a trend. I know a number of Mudcatters who ARE thin, but many who are not, and not all of them can easily control it. |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: dianavan Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:14 PM Cars, fast food and alcohol (excluding wine of course). ...and world starvation is a result of distribution problems not lack of food. d |
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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:43 PM Could American cadavers be harvested for ivory? Ivory for necessary things like frets and keyboards - not morbid things like jewelry.
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