BS: Improper Language II

Subject: Improper Language II
From: Pene Azul
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:10 PM

This is the continuation of the BS: Improper Language thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:19 PM

The Jessins o' Blazes on ye, ye byeya

You're not Spanish, are you?

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Pene Azul
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:26 PM

No, Brendy. You can read the thrilling story of the origin of my Mudcat nickname here.

PA

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:26 PM

Bendy! Bendy! I just replied to you on the musical chairs site - you're giving me a headache man! everyone else - don't give up - I'm going now. bye H.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:28 PM

One way to really ingratiate yourself with me, Hil, is to keep that oul' kind of shite up

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Pene Azul
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:54 PM

Here's a limerick found on this page that may support the quim-cwm connection.

There was a young lady so slim
Who had such a very large cwm. **
It wasn't the size
That attracted the flies,
But the crystallized cum on the rim.

** This is pronounced "quim" and is Welsh for valley Wonderbumb.

PA

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 12:08 AM

Yeah, I know the Welsh term 'cwm'
Valley, yes. It has gone down in posterity as a geological formation, also known as 'tarn', 'cym', 'coomb'
Also possible connections: Coom

Interesting analogy, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 12:17 AM

And, of course, a 'cwm' or 'tarn' is a hole in a mountain that has been scraped out by a glacier into a sort of a 'D' cup on it's side, kind o' shape.
All the little rivers that used to run down that mountain, before the big, bad, glacier came, ran down into the hole it left, after the Ice Age was over, you understand, and made this holy bejasus lake.
I wonder if these boys that invented the word could astral walk?

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Pene Azul
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 12:24 AM

Yeah, Brendy, looks like you nailed this one (so to speak). Nice goin'.

PA

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 12:30 AM

We're a bit closer, but I feel Chaucerian undertones waft softly under my door. I'm not totally satisfied, although the evidence is pretty damning, alright.
We need a connection.

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 12:39 AM

Interesting spelling for 'quim' in that limerick, though.
Looking at 'quim', as a word, though, I can't deny it's Latin roots (the language). It looks like something that can be 'declined': Quim, Quit, Quorum, Quis, Quis. kind of thing.
I don't know about you, Pene, but this is doin' my fuckin' head in!!!!

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 01:52 AM

I like the way, though, that various words can be linked together into a litany of curses.
I don't think anyone does it to the extent that the Irish and the Scots do:
All the above permutations (yeah, I know, some were a little exaggerated)
'Fuck arsin' around'
'Fuck shit' - a phrase that Frank would recognise.
'Piddlin' hoors'
'All manner of cuntishness' - a term I coined once, to portray what activity the Tax authorities would be engaged in at any given moment.

'Minge', 'Twat', 'Diddies', 'Dong'
'Condom' 'Pussy', the list goes on.
'Dildo', 'Frenchy', 'Cum', and 'shag'
Down with the trousers and empty the bags
© me, this day, this time

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 03:06 AM

This is a call out to everyone... Shall we send out for psychological help for poor Bendy?

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: alison
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 04:13 AM

nah.... let's just set up a swear/naughty words box... and raise funds for mudcat.... hahaha

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: GUEST,Hilary Nz
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 08:32 AM

Great idea - if i'd thought of that & got it paid to me i'd have enough to come over and see you all by now!

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 03:22 PM

Hilary.

There is an unfortunate trend in this Forum from time to time for people lacking proper manners and internet etiquette, to interject their one liners and insult people who are having a discussion among themselves, be it humourous BS like this one, or music related; both of which I contribute my $0.02 to.
If your intention is to disrupt and flame; and in your short time here, you have done both, I will point out to you that there are people on the wings, skulking in the shadows as it were, that will teach you (and God help us, the rest of us) the definition of the verb 'To Flame'
Such people drove me away by their disruptions before, not by flaming me as such, more the ugly taste it left in all our mouths. This time ,however, I'll make an exception in your case.

I don't see the humourous point you are trying to make and remake here, and I don't think it's my sense of humour that is at fault.
Keep it up, why don't you, and you'll have a monkey on your back, you will never shake loose.
I have only ever been polite to you, and rather than type up that joke again on the Musical Chairs thread, I kept it out of your eyesight, and directed others to it should they wish to read it. I didn't insult your intelligence by having you read it a second time.
This is proper and accepted 'etiquette'. Since I did that, you have followed me from thread to thread with this ridiculous nomenclature, behaving like what you consider Essex girls not to be.
Prove yourself right, and show us that Girls from Essex have a brain in their head. Use it, and don't take me on in an 'insult war'. OK?

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 04:14 PM

Now as I've always seen it part of the charm of the Mudcat is that we have these serious or frivolous or cod-serious discussions and dissertations, interweabing with one liners and jokes and the occasional insult. Much as the same as you get in any talk session in a pub in between the music.

Now if this were such a session,there'd now be a brief pause, and either it'd end up with a battle royal, verbal or physical, or with someone walking off in a fury. Or with luck someone would start up a tune, and the offending parties would end up buying each other drinks.

Let's fucking have a song now. Here is one that might be fitting..

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: MartinRyan
Date: 04 Jun 00 - 07:14 PM

To the Irish among us: I doubt there's any real connection between "feck", as we use it, and "fuck". Far from the former being a euphemism for the latter, I suspect the latter is an obscene substitute for the former!

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 04 Jun 00 - 07:54 PM

Martin; Although I am of Irish extraction (Partailly any how) and I have heard the term "Fecking" I assumed wrongly that it was an Irish pronunciation for the other. Could you kindly illuminate further on meaning and usage? Reguards Neil

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: paddymac
Date: 05 Jun 00 - 04:11 PM

Fuck; fok; fek; an amazing declension, or is it a conjugation? I have seen it described (or defined) as "an old Anglo-Saxon grunt word", but am partial to its usual Spanish definition: "explicativo sin tiendo" (explicative without meaning). Have also heard and read the verb "fek" in the Dublin vernacular as a synonym for "steal, pinch, lift, swipe, snatch, etc." (as in taking a thing unbeknownst to the rightful owner). Aint language grand?

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 05 Jun 00 - 06:09 PM

Paddymac: Indeed it is! Being a writer, it never fails to amaze me. I had never heard a meaning for feck and now I have one and hopefully a few more will crop up. Thanks much, Neil

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: MartinRyan
Date: 06 Jun 00 - 03:22 AM

"feck" was 17-18C underworld slang for "to steal by deceit". It is thought to be related to both "fake" and "effect", oddly enough. Like a number of other words of that period, it survived in Dublin long after it disappeared in England.

In the first of these threads, someone (Frank McGrath?) referred to a line in "The Night before Larry was stretched" which, of course, is in jail slang ("Newgate cant"). The line is "..Mind not such trifles a feck...".

Where does "feckless" fit in to all this? Not sure...

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 06 Jun 00 - 03:30 AM

That was the line I was referring to, Martin.
But, I know the word in the 'acquire' sense.
However, Feckin' read this!!!
Feckless would be the opposite, I would imagine

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: MartinRyan
Date: 06 Jun 00 - 05:49 AM

Brendy

Yes - that's the "effect" connection alright. I still find it hard to make the jump to a minute amount, which appears to be the sense in which we use it as a noun - and , by implication, explains "feckless".

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: sophocleese
Date: 07 Jun 00 - 10:08 PM

My kids are using improper language. At 5 and 7 years of age they are singing "What shall we do with a drunken sailor?" They have been very naughty and changed "Shave his belly with a rusty razor" into "shave his BUM! with a rusty razor". Tut tut what shall I do with them?

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: GUEST,Estela
Date: 08 Jun 00 - 01:47 AM

well you could always keelhaul 'em! lucky for them they're too young to shave or you could really make the punishment fit the crime!

bum really isn't too bad compared to some of the stuff I've heard kids say, actually, though maybe it's a worse word where you are. check out the naughty kids words thread [and n.k.w. II up near the top of the list] for more lovely kids' songs.

I think every kid who hasn't been brainwashed to a frightening degree does that to songs.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: GUEST,Estela
Date: 08 Jun 00 - 01:48 AM

oops, that's "naughty kids' greatest hits" and <-- II.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: GUEST,Crazy eddie
Date: 08 Jun 00 - 04:28 AM

Sophoclese Threaten to "Put 'em in the lock-up till they're sober" Or possibly "Hoist 'em up to the mains'l yard-arm. If you can stop giggling tlong enough to make the threat that is!

And aren't you lucky the don't know the REAL words? [It wasn't his belly OR his bum, originally] LOL Eddie

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 08 Jun 00 - 06:03 PM

You could channel Captain Bligh of Her MAjesty's Navy and flog them around the fleet. There is just something odd about shaving certain body parts for punishment. Methinks they had way too much time on their hands. Neil

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Fiddlin' Big Al
Date: 09 Jun 00 - 04:10 AM

re psychoillogical help for Brendy. Brendy is our psychoillogical help.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Brendy
Date: 09 Jun 00 - 06:00 AM

Thank you kind sir.

Always glad to be of assistance *BG*

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Improper Language II
From: Bert
Date: 09 Jun 00 - 04:26 PM

Irish S. The shaving was to sober them up. Don't forget they used open razors in those days. It would sober me up real quick if someone started waving one of those around 'my' privates.
Bert.