Subject: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Alan of Australia Date: 02 Jul 00 - 03:44 AM G'day, From the Penguin Book Of English Folk Songs, Ed Pellow's rendition of the tune of The Ship In Distress can be found here.
THE SHIP IN DISTRESS
You seamen bold who plough the ocean
For fourteen days, heartsore and hungry,
A full-dressed ship like the sun a-glittering
Sung by Mr Harwood, Watersfield, Sussex (G.B. 1907) Click here for a much longer version.
Previous song: Salisbury Plain.
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Subject: Lyr Add: LITTLE BILLEE (William M Thackeray) From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 03 Aug 00 - 04:05 PM From the notes to the Penguin Book (1959): "The Portugese Ballad A Nau Caterineta and the French ballad La Courte Paille tell much the same story. The ship has been long at sea, and food has given out. Lots are drawn to see who shall be eaten, and the captain is left with the shortest straw. The cabin boy offers to be sacrificed in his stead, but begs first to be allowed to keep lookout till the next day. In the nick of time he sees land ("Je vois la tour de Babylone, Barbarie de l'autre côté") and the men are saved. Thackeray burlesqued this song in his Little Billee. It is likely that the French ballad gave rise to The Ship in Distress, which appeared on 19th. century broadsides. George Butterworth obtained four versions in Sussex (FSJ vol.IV [issue 17] pp.320-2) and Sharp printed one from James Bishop of Priddy, Somerset (Folk Songs from Somerset, vol.III, p.64) with "in many respects the grandest air" which he had found in that county. The text comes partly from Mr. Bishop's version, and partly from a broadside." -R.V.W./A.L.L. This version was collected by George Butterworth from Mr. Harwood of Watersfield, Sussex, in 1907, and was first published in the Folk Song Journal, vol.IV, [issue 17], p.321. On the DT: The Ship in Distress From the Oxford Book of Sea Songs, with tune. Sept Ans sur Mer Canadian version of La Courte Paille, with tune. Il était un Petit Navire Canadian version of La Courte Paille, with tune. Le Petit Navire is a later development of the song, dated by Henri Davenson (Le Livre des Chansons, 1955) to the mid-19th. century. It was re-made in the music-halls, becoming a comic song in which the cabin-boy is actually eaten, in a variety of interesting sauces. In this form it re-entered tradition -largely as a chidren's song- and continued alongside its more serious-minded ancestor. See also: The Banks of Newfoundland (no tune). The Silk Merchant's Daughter From the Oxford Book of Sea Songs, with tune. These two songs share the central motif, though the surrounding stories are different. In the Forum: The Silk Merchant's Daughter Discussion of variants and broadside sources. Il était un petit navire Discussion of variants @sailor @cannibal There are entries at The Traditional Ballad Index: The Ship in Distress
La Courte Paille
The Banks of Newfoundland (II)
The Silk Merchant's Daughter Laws N10
There is a version of A Nau Catarineta, and links to others, at: Barcarolas e Marinhas I am not in a position to provide an adequate translation from the Portugese, so have not included a text at this time. If there's anybody out there who could do one, that would be great. |
Subject: Lyr Add: LA COURTE PAILLE / THE SHORT STRAW From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 03 Aug 00 - 04:06 PM Here is a version from France: LA COURTE PAILLE (The Short Straw)
This version was printed in Le Livre des Chansons (Henri Davenson, 1955); he gives a text collated by Doncieux (Le Romancero populaire de la France,1904) but gives no provenance for the tune, a midi of which goes to Alan's Mudcat Midi site. Malcolm |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Alan of Australia Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:26 AM G'day, (At last) Thanks to Malcolm the tune for "La Courte Paille" with embedded lyrics can be found here at the Mudcat MIDI site.
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Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Sorcha Date: 12 Oct 00 - 03:10 AM Malcolm, you are absolutely amazing. WOW. What a provenance for a song. You deserve at least a small SNOG for your scholarship and research. Soooooo, SNOGS to you, Malcolm Douglas!!!!!! |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Anglo Date: 12 Oct 00 - 10:27 AM Bob Copper also sings a version of the "Ship in Distress," which is printed in the Copper Family Songbook under the title "Seamen Bold." The Cecil Sharp version is published with a piano arrangement in his "One Hundred English Folk Songs." (Still in print from Dover, I believe). This version seems to be the only one in 6/4 time rather than the more common 5/4. Terrific job, Malcolm! |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: MartinRyan Date: 12 Oct 00 - 10:46 AM Franklin, in his own account of his early explorations in North East Canada, has an account of cannibalism among his French-Canadian voyageurs. I think there was also a suggestion in respect of some of those lost in his later disaster. Regards |
Subject: Lyr Add: SIR J. FRANKLIN AND HIS CREWS From: radriano Date: 12 Oct 00 - 11:45 AM There's an interesting version of Lord Franklin in the Bodleian library that goes into the account of cannabalism on the voyage. Sir J. Franklin and His Crews Bodleian Library Broadsheets You tender Christians I pray attend To these few lines I have now penned Of Sir John Franklin and his brave band Who've perished far from their native land Chorus: So listen now while I tell to you The fate of Franklin and his brave crew It's now nine years since they first set sail With joyous hearts and a pleasant gale In frozen regions to cruise about The Northwest passage to find out There was many a sad and an aching heart As from their friends these brave men did part To plough their way o'er the raging main For fear they should ne'er return again When six dreary years they had been away Some other vessels without delay Were sent to search for the missing crews But alas of them they could hear no news A gloomy mystery for nine long years Their wives and children has kept in tears In deepest anguish they did await The ships sent out to learn their fate Poor Lady Franklin in great despair In anguish wild she tore her hair Saying ten thousand pounds I'd give for news Of my loving Franklin and his brave crews The government in this present year Did pensions give to their families dear But Lady Franklin refused the grant Crying give me my husband I no money want At length sad tidings of this brave band Has reached the shores of their native land By which we hear that they are all dead Though suffering much ere their souls had fled As through the frozen seas they pushed Their ships by blocks of ice were crushed And offering prayers for their babes and wives Many brave souls did lose their lives Forty poor creatures from a watery grave With one of the boats their lives did save And over the ice they now took their way To reach in safety the Hudson's Bay What horrid sufferings of pain and want These frozen regions no food did grant At length, oh horrid, for want of meat Their dying comrades they had to eat How horrid was the sight when found Their limbs and bodies lay scattered round The flesh gnawed off from every bone Oh, may their souls to heaven have gone Now for to finish and make an end May God their families from want defend And while their loss we sadly deplore We hope such horrors to hear no more The version of "The Ship in Distress" in the Oxford Book of Sea Songs is a wonderful version (with a lovely melody) of the well known sea song, "The Mermaid." Regards, Radriano |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: MartinRyan Date: 12 Oct 00 - 11:54 AM Radriano Interesting one alright. John Moulden had sent me a copy of one of those versions - I didn't realise it was in the Bodleian. I find their search system a bit dodgy! Haven't tried to sing that set to the usual air. Ever heard it done? Regards |
Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: LADY FRANKLIN'S LAMENT FOR HER ... From: radriano Date: 12 Oct 00 - 12:25 PM Martin: I've had trouble with the Bodleian search system as well. I tend to browse the collections when I have the time to do it. I believe that the version I just posted would fit well with the usual air. Lately I've been singing a version of the song given in "The Oxford Book of Sea Song" which has a slightly different melody that I like a lot. In case you don't have access to the Oxford book here's the ABC notation for that melody along with the lyrics: X:1 T:Lady Franklin's Lament for her Husband M:4/4 L:1/8 S:Oxford Book of Sea Songs K:D (D>F)|A2A2 B2 A>F|(E>D) (E>F) D3"'"D| E2 (E>F) (G>F) (G>A)|B2B2 A2"'" A>A| BBBB d2 c>B| A2d2 F2"'" (F>E)|D2 AA (B>F) G>E|E2 D2 D2|| Lady Franklin's Lament for her Husband The Oxford Book of Sea Songs, Roy Palmer, ed. You seamen bold that have oft withstood Wild storms of Neptune's briny flood Attend to these few lines which I now relate And put you in mind of a sailor's dream As homeward bound one night on the deep Slung in my hammock, I fell fast asleep I dreamed a dream which I thought was true Concerning Franklin and his brave crew I thought as we neared to the Humber shore I heard a female that did deplore She wept aloud and seemed to say Alas, my Franklin is long away Her mind it seemed in sad distress She cried aloud, - I can take no rest Ten thousand pounds I would freely give To say on earth that my husband lives Long time it is since two ships of fame Did bear my husband across the main With a hundred seamen with courage stout To find a north-western passage out With a hundred seamen with hearts so bold I fear have perished with frost and cold Alas, she cried, all my life I'll mourn Since Franklin seems never to return For since that time seven years are past And many a keen and bitter blast Blows o'er the grave where the poor seamen fell Whose dreadful sufferings no tongue can tell To find a passage by the North Pole Where tempests wave and wild thunders roll Is more than mortal man can do With hearts undaunted and courage true There's Captain Austen of Scarborough town Brave Granville and Penny of much renown With Captain Ross and so many more Have long been searching the Arctic shore They sailed east and they sailed west Round Greenland's coast they knew the best In hardships drear they have vainly strove On mountains of ice their ships were drove At Baffin's Bay where the whalefish blows The fate of Franklin nobody knows Which causes many a wife and child to mourn In grievous sorrow for their return These sad forebodings they give me pain For the long lost Franklin across the main Likewise the fate of so many before Who have left their homes to return no more |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 12 Oct 00 - 12:39 PM Why, thankyou Sorcha! All I'm really doing is cross-referencing resources available on the Web (and trying to leave out sites that look as if they may disappear without warning.) Of course, like many others here, I've done a lot of reading and listening over the years, which helps when pulling information together. The version Sharp found is mentioned in A.L. Lloyd's notes, above; Bob Copper's version is currently available (text only) at Gary Gillard's Copper Family site: Seamen Bold. The song persists in tradition in Sussex, and the late Gordon Hall also had a set of it. There is an interview with Gordon at Musical Traditions here: Gordon Hall There was extensive discussion of Lord Franklin on a thread last year: Franklin where several versions were posted, including the full broadside text Radriano gives above. I will refresh it and put in a link to this thread, though it doesn't have very much to do with The Ship in Distress! For more on the Franklin expedition, see: John Franklin's Story (at Lord Franklin Productions ) John Franklin and the Opening of the North, 1845 - 1859 Of course, they were on land at the time and probably would have survived if they had adopted the Inuit diet as Ross had some years before in the same area. I'm still hoping for a translator for A Nau Catarineta... Malcolm |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Date: 12 Oct 00 - 04:51 PM Malcolm That's alright - we'll take Franklin off elsewhere. Sort of a takeaway, I suppose. Regards |
Subject: Lyr Add: TROIS MATELOTS DU PORT DE BREST From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 01 Jan 01 - 10:09 AM Here is another set of La Courte Paille, in answer to a request for the version recorded by a band called "Arcady". Having never heard of them, I can't be sure that this is the right text, but it seems likely enough. It appears on several websites, all apparantly deriving from the same, unnamed, source, and is described as Breton. The narrative is a bit confused in comparison with the collated version I gave earlier in this thread. Regrettably, none of the sites carrying the text give any indication as to what tune may belong to it. I give the words as found, though in verse 1 I have substituted "dessus" for "de sur", which is probably either dialectal or the result of a mis-hearing. TROIS MATELOTS DU PORT DE BREST
Malcolm |
Subject: Lyr Add: A NAU CATARINETA From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 18 May 01 - 12:14 PM A recent brief thread on Little Billee ( Three Sailors from Bristol City ) reminded me that we still had no example here of the Portugese set of the story. Since I now have one with an English translation, here it is:
Except in the second verse, the second two lines of each verse are repeated as a refrain. This Brazilian version of the widespread Portugese song is taken from Folk Songs of the Americas, edited by A.L. Lloyd and Isabel Aretz de Ramón y Rivera (Novello, 1965), and was originally published in Música Popular Brasileña (O. Alvarenga; Mexico City, Fondo de Cultura Economica, 1947). A midi of the tune goes to the Mudcat Midi Pages; as a temporary measure, it may be heard via the South Riding Folk Network site: A Nau Catarineta (midi). Malcolm |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 10 Nov 09 - 06:24 AM Obviously mistook the thread for The Courtship In Distress! Mick |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Artful Codger Date: 10 Nov 09 - 06:32 AM That remark will be mighty puzzling when the spam post is removed. ;-} |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 10 Nov 09 - 09:21 AM True enough AC - I'd thought the elf would be clever enough to remove my post too! Mick |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Little Robyn Date: 10 Nov 09 - 01:51 PM I thought, from the title of this thread, that it was about the sinking of the Penguin - a ferry that went between the north and south islands of New Zealand. My grandfather, Dick Williams and his identical twin brother Jim were stewards on the Penguin and my late Father had several stories of their time on board. There was one time during a storm when Dick was moving a mattress from one room to a room on the deck below. He was standing at the top of the companionway with the mattress, the ship lurched and the next second he was on the deck below - just one little step away - the lower deck had risen to meet him. Lucky he had a mattress underneath! But the boys were both hard drinkers and one time were both so drunk that they missed the boat - they were left behind in the South Island on that fateful day in February 1909 - and their boat sank on the Wellington coast with the loss of 75 out of 105 on board. If they hadn't been drunk, if they hadn't missed the boat, the chances are they would have died that night, aged 20 years, and so they would never have married or had kids, and I would never have been born!!! Quite a frightening thought really. So I was hoping there might have been a song written about it???? Cheers, Robyn |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Artful Codger Date: 11 Nov 09 - 04:45 PM Did they seal, did they seal? If so, you could adapt "David Lowston" to the circumstances. I can also envision a comic song about twin brothers getting into difficulties piloting a boat, muddling their duties because each couldn't tell himself from the other. Post more details about the sinking of the ferry and we'll compose "The Penguin in Distress"! You know how folkies go wild for songs about nymphs, shepherds and ferries. Codgerly yours... |
Subject: RE: Penguin: The Ship In Distress From: Little Robyn Date: 12 Nov 09 - 02:07 AM Hi Codger, I found these details from a site with NZ shipwrecks online. I wonder if the discrepency re numbers on board and numbers lost had anything to do with Dick and Jim being AWOL that night? No seals around, unless there were some swimming around Cape Terawhiti that night. 1909 SS Penguin wrecked in Cook Strait The voyage began promisingly. On the evening of 12 February 1909 the Union Company's passenger steamer Penguin left Picton for Wellington in fine weather. The ship was small (749 tons) and old (launched in 1864), but had been rebuilt, and Captain Francis Naylor knew the route thoroughly. By the time the Penguin entered the open waters of Cook Strait, however, it was dark and the weather had closed in, blacking out every landmark. Unable to see the Pencarrow light, Captain Naylor set a course to take him clear of danger. He later made another course change, intending to ride out the storm until daylight, but then the ship struck heavily - with a noise like 'the rending of a gigantic piece of calico', a seaman recalled. The Penguin began sinking in heavy seas off a rugged, isolated stretch of coast. The practice of 'women and children first' prevailed but this proved disastrous as the lifeboats they were placed in quickly capsized in the rough seas. None of the children and only one of the women, Ada Hannam, survived. Hannam was declared a heroine in the days that followed, particularly for her efforts assisting in the rescue of the youngest survivor, teenager Ellis Matthews. But this would have been of small consolation to the then pregnant Hannam; she had lost her husband and four children in the wreck. Only 30 of the 102 people who had set out from Picton that summer evening lived to tell the tale, 72 perished, making it New Zealand's worst 20th century maritime disaster (some contemporary accounts put the number of people on board at 105, with 75 deceased). All but 13 of the bodies were eventually recovered. Most were transported via the salvage tug Terawhiti to Miramar wharf and then to the drill hall in Buckle Street for identification. A public funeral was then held in Wellington on 16 February. The half-day holiday declared for the event saw thousands line the street as 'a cortège of cabs and lorries' left the drill hall, thousands more met the cortège at Karori Cemetery. The deaths of the four McGuire children were among those that 'touched the people of Wellington'. They had been placed in St Andrews Presbyterian Orphanage, Nelson after their mother's death in 1906 but were on their way to be reunited with their father, who had recently remarried. Although some said the Penguin had struck a drifting wreck, it is widely believed that it struck Thoms Rock off Cape Terawhiti, after being carried off course by an exceptionally strong flood tide. The inquiry blamed Captain Naylor and suspended his certificate for 12 months. But it was also unanimous that once disaster struck Naylor 'did everything in his power to prevent loss of life'. Robyn |
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