Mudcat Insomniacs.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: autolycus
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 06:40 PM

No time to right thru the thread (cries of 'intolerable','disgraceful','red card,ref')

We could sort the time thing by including in postings what the time is on our clock/watch.

Methods of getting to sleep that have worked for me.

1. Do a 3-digit by 3-digit multiplication in my head; keep restarting when I lose track till I lose cosciousness.

2. Overdo keeping myself awake while lying in bed with eyes shut till etc.

3. Remind myself that there have been literally 1000s of nights when I've slept, so not to worry.


With apologies if I'm on the wrong track here.

Ivor

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:17 PM

thank you so much ivor.

freda

(just awoken by the sound of a massive garbage truck rolling down the street, with all the accompanying rumbling, crashes, and broken glass)

11.16 am

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Morticia
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:28 PM

I 'spect this is old hat but have you tried taking yourself for a (mental) walk through a building........I visualise every detail from the hall to the 33rd ( if necessary) bedroom......colour, furnishings,purpose, books, bed linen.....every little thing until the place is more familiar than home.....mostly I don't get further than the library...on bad nights, the 5th bedroom......and as I said, on one very bad night, the 33rd bedroom but as mental chewing gum, it works.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:56 PM

thanks Morticia - I hope i don't have another bug eyed night but if i do..

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:58 PM

So, where are all these insomniacs when I need them???? Wrong time zones I guess....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 05:19 AM

Seems I get more sleep between 8am and 10.00am than I do between 10.00pm and 8.00am.... I'm still unbearably cheerful in the mornings... they just start really REALLY early!

But if you're awake at 4.00am GMT, spare a thought for my uncle who will be on his way out to the milking parlour whatever the weather.

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 05:23 AM

and speaking of cows, thanks for reminding me Liz, I'll be having a hot milk n horlicks tonight, and taking some magnesium tabs

fingers crossed

f.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 05:44 AM

I've been visiting 'down home' so the car smells of cows.. it's lovely but City Boy Manitas wants me to clean it out.... he be puggled if 'ee doan loike thur smell o' good clean cowshit.

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: David C. Carter
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:00 AM

Liz,You're talking "good clean cowshit"and I'm just about to have lunch!

David

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:00 AM

must be great to get back there. Strange, these city boys.. can't handle the smell of the earth..

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:04 AM

Fresh cowshit is sweet and aromatic.. it's only when it's been lying around for a few days that it starts to smell horrid...

Cow pee is a different matter entirely.

Enjoy your lunch!

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: David C. Carter
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:08 AM

Thank's a pile!and I'll stay with the Bordeaux,thank you very much!

Cheers

David

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:17 AM

I don't blame you.. I've often wondered how 'Blue Nun' was made.

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:22 AM

A pile - nothing like a good steaming pile - hee hee!

(I wonder whose lunch/dinner time it is now? MWUHAHAHAHA HA HA)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 01:11 PM

meanwhile, back in sydney at 3.09 am I can hear bats screeching, chirruping and cavorting in the trees over the road. I made the mistake of mentioning the "I" word this afternoon, and now, in the early hours of the morning.....

maybe I should be counting bats..


freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: autolycus
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 07:41 AM

Freda,

Aside from the suggestions so far for getting to sleep, may I suuggest (No flags and saluting here, oh no) a counsellor or therapist. Sleeplessness can be to do with matter unresolved that one continues to chew on, or at least the unconscious does. Just a thought, from a therapist obviously.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 05:18 PM

You're quite right Ivor - I've done 8 years of group therapy with 8 women and a gestalt therapist - one of the best things I've ever done - but it was those damned bats! (the flapping ones)!!

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: autolycus
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 05:26 PM

As a gestaltist, I'm glad it was a gestaltist, Freda.

   What was the "I" word ?(modesty forbids) or shouldn't I ask?


   Ivor

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 01 May 06 - 04:36 AM

I was wondering that too, Freda, but didn't mention it before cos I thought it was just me being thick. So what was the "I" word?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 May 06 - 05:35 AM

it was......


















"Insomnia"!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 01 May 06 - 06:13 AM

D'oh.....

I must have had too many late nights myself - but for some reason it didn't seem all that obvious.

Ya gonna have another late one tonight?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 May 06 - 07:25 AM

i hope not jenny - I'm back into proper hours again - I think Saturday's insomnia might have been excitement - I'm going to Austria on Thursday!!
fred

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 01 May 06 - 09:37 AM

Yeah, not long now! Hope you have a wonderful time! Do you think you might get on Mudcat at any stage while you are over there?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 19 Jul 06 - 12:45 PM

the "I" word has reared its ugly head.

I for inane (all those useless comments?)
for inept (sabotaging my tomorrow)
or for










insomnia............aaaagh.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 02:45 AM

Jeez--this is my 8th night straight.

I need some

safe and restful
sleep, sleep, sleep.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 02:48 AM

not insomnia, just kids that won't go to bed! One was supposed to be all packed for her move to college tomorrow. Guess what? Piles of stuff everywhere, and one tired mom.

SRS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: LilyFestre
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 03:20 AM

I'm just up. The house is quiet with sounds of my husband sleeping peacefully, crickets softly humming, all the animals are sleeping....now if I could just join them.....

Michelle

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: John O'L
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 05:54 AM

My son and I have found that Bach Flowers remedies have helped us sleep more soundly.

Just recently we both suddenly started having a lot of trouble sleeping, and a doctor acquaintance mentioned melatonin. I Googled it and found that it occurs naturally in bananas. Since Cyclone Larry had sent the price of bananas from less than a dollar a kilo to $14 a kilo we had stopped eating them. Now we are spending more on bananas than on petrol but at least we are sleeping at night again.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,kt
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 07:01 AM

yawn.......3 am here.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 08:28 AM

I've just had a week of wonderful, restful, undisturbed sleep and peaceful days.

Then Manitas and Limpit came home from their holiday.....

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Firecat
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 11:02 AM

6.15 am I got to sleep... 7.40am the stupid alarm woke me up!! I'd forgotten it was on. I'm going to go for a bath now. Hope I don't fall asleep in it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 04:01 PM

Years ago, while going through a rough patch, I visited a medical doctor for relaxation therapy. If my 'stories' don't work for me, to this day I do what the doctor taught me: I visualise a puffy cloud on which I nestle. I can 'pack' the cloud under my knees or my neck or wherever I need more support. It is peaceful and comfy and I am weightless. If I'm curious I can sit up and take a look at the silent blue sky and then cuddle down again...

Sure beats counting sheep.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: skarpi
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 07:04 PM

Not for me here in Iceland not after midnight .

All the best Skarpi Iceland

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: John O'L
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 07:24 PM

It must be hell to lie awake all night up there Skarpi

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 08:00 AM

fluffy clouds, bananas .. i'll try these next time!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 08:24 AM

Sorry... that just made me think of banana splits covered in cream....

must


eat









chocolate.........



















LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 09:13 AM

Somewhere I read: 'Save Mother Earth. It is the only planet with chocolate.'

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:02 AM

'In any case, chocolate is hardly a rare commodity,' said Chaos. 'There are planets covered in the stuff'

REALLY?

'Indeed.'

IT MIGHT BE BEST, said Death, IF NEWS LIKE THAT DID NOT GET ABOUT.

Terry Prachett, Thief of time.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 04:20 PM

You can always see if anyone is in the chat rooms...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 05:06 PM

i tried the fluffy clouds last night and went straight off to sleep!

unfortunately forgot about them when I woke up at 3.00.

must get some bananas today! (yes, we have no bananas!)

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 12:04 AM

I've tried warm milk, ambien, trazadone, benedryl, Australian shiraz and Italian pinot gregio. deep breathing and visualization. Nothing is helping.

I have bouts of insomnia but never for so long before. I'm beginning to wonder if the eye stimulation of being on the computer at night is contributing.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 03:11 AM

Janie - can you fit that list to the tune of 'Dido, Bendigo'?

There was Shiraz, Benedryl, some eyetie pinot grigio,
Warm milk, trazadone and breathing!

Try watching a film you've really wanted to see for some time... works like magic for me... I STILL haven't seen how 'Frankenstein' (1934, Boris Karlof version) ends....

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 12:32 AM

Looks like I'm heading into another late night. I'm starting to get sick and miss work from the fatique. Guess I best get
myself to the doctor.

Or at least get off the damned computer.

nite nite.

Janie

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: John O'L
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 01:06 AM

Liz -

The big ugly guy gets it in the neck.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 01:27 AM

Sleep? I just keep going and at some point I'm awake again! And if I go online there's always a Mudcatter or two floppin' about the site and citin' about the flop.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bert
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 02:14 AM

Try a hop pillow.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 25 Aug 06 - 07:04 AM

after three nights of interrupted sleep, i slept well and then had the most wonderful dream. I dreamt that I was walking through a medieval village with a friend (catter hilda fish) and she took me into the village square. Erected across the green lawn was a series of huge, cube and rectangular shaped sculptures like buildings, with pipes and metal scultpted pieces linking them.

As we looked about these huge wooden sculptures, the wind was blowing through the wood and making it vibrate and hum. It created a huge natural instrument - a cross between a scuplture, a building and a musical instrument because all the wooden walls and panels were vibrating and humming in different harmonic keys, as the breezes stirred the wood.

I woke up with an amazing sense of gratitude to my brain - it felt like it was generating wonderful healing energy into me, through this dream.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 25 Aug 06 - 08:29 AM

Nite all. I'm heading for Freda's dream.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 04:19 AM

Once upon a 1:16 AM (PDT) dreary
While I pondered, weak and weary...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 02:48 AM

I seem to be up wide awake at 1:42am. It's more a case of too much to do and not enough time in which to do it, and a weekend over which I can do a little extra work. But I'm finished, so I hope I can wind down and get to sleep soon. I have to get up early to walk the dogs (and myself) because after about 8am it will be too hot to walk very far or very briskly. BUT WAIT! I see there are thunderstorms in the region. We're a bit off the path right now, but maybe they'll expand to our area. How nice--the idea of sleeping to the sound of rain!

(Too bad I washed the dogs today--it'll probably be a horrible muddy mess out back after this drought we've been having, and the dogs will be in the middle of it).

SRS