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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BLUE VELVET BAND
From: GUEST,SH
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 08:52 AM

I have looked at the lyrics for "The Blue Velvet Band". My mother has some slightly different lyrics that she remembers. They are as follows.

THE BLUE VELVET BAND

If you listen, a story I'll tell you,
Of a girl who once lived in this land
A girl who once was my sweetheart
She was known as the Blue Velvet Band

On her cheeks was the first flush of nature
Her beauty it seemed to expand,
Her hair hung down in long tresses
Tied back by the Blue Velvet Band

I can still see those tears as we parted
Of my heart broken Blue Velvet Band
As I left her I told her I'd never
come back to my old home again

Five years in the wide open spaces
Was all that my poor heart could stand
Every night as I lay on my pillow
I would dream of my Blue Velvet Band

Then one night as I lay down dreaming
Of home and dear Mother and Dad
Like a flash by my bedside was standing
The form of my Blue Velvet Band

I started the next day for my darling
To go back and make her my bride
But as I reached the old country depot
They told me my sweetheart had died

They laid her to rest in the churchyard
Mid the sweet summer flowers of the land
On her finger was the ring I had bought her
On her head was the Blue Velvet Band
^^

I hope this of use to other people, it seems to be quite alot like other "The Blue Velvet Band" Lyrics but I thought it would be good to submit it to see if others remember the same lyrics. Perhaps there are a few lyrics missing.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 12:17 PM

There are three versions of Blue Velvet Band on the DT, all presumably American:

The Blue Velvet Band
Blue Velvet Band (2)
Blue Velvet Band

There has also been some discussion in the Forum:

Help: Velvet Band Age  Includes Hank Snow's re-written version.

None of these have tunes specified.  Was your version sung to the familiar  Black Velvet Band  tune, or to something else?

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: GUEST,SH
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 05:30 AM

It had a tune all its own and did not sound like the tune to "The Black Velvet Band". She also has a song called "The Answer To The Blue Velvet Band" which is song to the tune of "The Red River Valley" that seems to be about a woman's death and her letting her beau know that she was true despite what he may have thought. I am unsure if it is connected to the song that I typed in because in that one the man seemed to have wonderlust and left his town and then became homesick and had a premonition that something had happened to his girlfriend. My mom has a couple of other songs which I am not sure they have in the listings one is "Jack and Joe" which has the line "Don't Forget to give my Love to Nell". Also she has one called "Missing in Action" which is about a soldier who is presumed dead but was captured by the enemy and he escapes. He returns home to his home and discover from the pictures in his home that his wife got a letter saying he died and he sees that she has married again because he sees a wedding picture. He decides she never need know he returned. I might type that one in if it permitted to do so. Is there the lyrics to "My Daddy's Just A Picture" anywhere on here because I heard this song recently and it is a beautiful song and my Mom loves to sing sad songs.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: GUEST,SH
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 05:48 AM

I just checked out the Help: The Blue Velvet Band. It is the version my mom remembers. I had no idea it was Hank Snow who sang it. Before TV people sang alot more I think to be entertained. Does anyone know where a person can purchase Hank Snow's Version of "The Black Velvet Band". He just passed away earlier this year and my Mom was saddened at his passing and she really enjoyed his music. Is there someplace on here where I can check for the words to his version to of "The Answer to The Blue Velvet Band". Does his version of "The Blue Velvet Band" have a different tune than "Black Velvet Band" because Mom doesn't sing it to that tune. I feel like a fool for writing in all that and it was already there. I suppose a person learns as they go along. It is wonderful that there is a place on the Internet where you can revive these songs which are seldom heard anymore. My Mother when she sings the songs it brings her back to when she was young which was the Great Depression.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 07:48 AM

I see it on this compilation

http://www.bear-family.de/tabel1/backor/internat/s/snow_hank/snow.htm

Enjoy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Dale Rose
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 09:42 AM

No need to feel the least bit foolish, SH ~~ I expect we've all done that at one time or another. One of the local bywords is Did you check the DT/Forum first?????

I have the Hank Snow version. As soon as Tripod gets their problems fixed, I will put it up, as well as the Answer to The Blue Velvet Band. The link that George provided is the only source that I know of, and it is very expensive, but well worth it if you are a fan of the early Hank Snow.


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Subject: Lyr Add: ANSWER TO 'THE BLUE VELVET BAND' (H Snow)
From: Dale Rose
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 10:11 AM

Here are the lyrics for The Answer. The notes to the CD set do not give any extra information about the song.

THE ANSWER TO 'THE BLUE VELVET BAND'
Clarence Hank Snow, recorded February 8-10, 1941

By an old willow tree in the churchyard
On the banks of the old Rio Grande
Lies a loved one who died broken hearted
She was known as the Blue Velvet Band.

She was called by the Angels up yonder
As the dew kissed the pale summer rose.
As we stood there in silence beside her
These words to her lover did go.

Dear Jack you've mistrusted your darling
You said that my love was untrue.
You roamed o'er the wide open spaces
But my thoughts they were always of you.

My last wish was once more to see you
But they said you're in some foreign land.
Your forgiveness is in this last message
From your heartbroken Blue Velvet Band.

Far away o'er the lone western prairie
Her message sped fast o'er the way
To the side of a bed where her cowboy
Was breathing his life fast away.

Please grant a last wish boys and lay me
Out west on that old Rio Grande
'Neath that old Willow tree in the churchyard
By my sweetheart the Blue Velvet Band.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 10:38 AM

The tune is here:  Red River Valley  Is anyone in a position to post the tune for Blue Velvet Band?  It would fill another gap in the archive.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Gene
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 11:55 PM

* CLICK/PLAY BLUE VELVET BAND/HANK SNOW *


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Dale Rose
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 12:19 AM

Oh, yeah ~~ Here's The Answer To 'The Blue Velvet Band'. It's another orphan file with no links to it except here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Dale Rose
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 12:24 AM

I changed the error in my test copy, but failed to change the one in the reply box! Make that The Answer To 'The Blue Velvet Band'. It's another orphan file with no links to it except here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 08:59 PM

Turns out there's a version recorded from tradition at the  Max Hunter Folk Song Collection:

The Girl In The Blue Velvet Band  As sung by Mr. Ed Stilley, Eureka Springs, Arkansas on May 1, 1958:  includes staff notation and soundfiles in RA, AIFF and HIF formats.

Malcolm


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE GIRL IN THE BLUE VELVET BAND
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 05:41 PM

In the thread "Black Velvet Band- Again," B V B , and Malcolm's reference to threads with old and other versions of Black Velvet Band: Black V B , Black Velvet Band first appears in broadsides and collections in the British Isles is early 19th Century (Ian C, posting on Bodleian material, and ship data). It could be late 18th century.

The first appearance of the American "Girl in the Blue Velvet Band" is about 100 years later. In this thread, Malcolm Douglas points to a version in the Max Hunter Collection, sung in 1958. A very similar version was collected in Voices From The Dustbowl- the Todd and Sonkin Migratory Worker Collection, 1940-1941. The two versions must have come from the same source. It was recorded in Porterville or Woodsville, CA, in 1941. Audio on this song can be found by putting Blue Velvet band in the Search box of American Memory.

Spaeth was the first to note "Blue Velvet Band" in 1927. Vance Randolph collected the song in 1933, sung by Fred Barbee. Several versions were collected in the 1930s, including one by John A. Lomax who made a phonographic recording in 1938 in Michigan.
Speculation- it is possible that the song was brought into popularity in North America by soldiers returning after WW1, and later added to by hoboes and migrant workers. It appeared in a hobo song collection in 1930 ("Hobo's Hornbook"). Cowboys also liked the song; Johnson (1935) said it had been a favorite for "a quarter century or more." (Quoted from Randolph, Ozark Folk Songs, vol. 4, p. 115). Some versions run to many verses.

Here are the lyrics from the Migrant Worker Collection and comparisons with the version on Max Hunter. Several mis-hearings are evident in the Max Hunter version, so possibly Mr. Stilley took his version from this 1941 recording. The singer is unknown (no notes accompany the recording except date and approx. location).

THE GIRL IN THE BLUE VELVET BAND.

In the city of riches and fashion,
In Frisco where I first saw the light,
There were numerous adventures and frolics,
So rich in my memory tonight.

One evening while out on a ramble,
The hour was just about nine,
When I met a young maiden in Frisco,
On the corner of Perry (Peary?) and Pine.

On her face there was beauty of nature,
Her eyes they seemed to expand,
Her hair so rich and so brilliant
Entwined in a blue velvet band.

We walked down the old street together,
In my pocket she placed her small hand,
She planted the evidence on me,
O, the girl in the blue velvet band.

We heard the wild scream of the siren,
O, the girl in the blue velvet band,
She left me to face all the trouble,
For a diamond that was worth ten grand.

That night when bedtime was nearing,
I was strolling right close to the park(?),
I fancied I heard a voice calling,
Far out on the ocean of stars.

They sent me to San Quentin prison,
God knows I'm an innocent man.
I spent ten years in that prison,
For the girl in the blue velvet band.

I'll be out in a week, then I'm leaving,
But I carry the name of a man,
Who served ten years in that prison,
For the girl in the blue velvet band.

But when I get out I'll endeavor,
To live in some other land,
I'll bid farewell to old Frisco
And the grave of my blue velvet band.

There is no lead-up th the last sentence about the grave. In the Stilley version, one verse is:
They sent me to prison for stealin',
God knows, I'm an innocent man,
The guilty one is dying
O, the girl in the blue velvet band.

The audio may be heard at Search Box Enter blue velvet band.

The Stilley song lacks the verse "That night when bedtime was nearing, ...."
The first three verses are similar to those of the extended paste-up "The Blue Velvet Band" in the DT.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: GUEST,zuzuman@sbcglobal.net
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:02 AM

my copy of the poem (my blue velvet band)is a typed copy by private ben luvovsky 10/1/1920. originated 1/4/1889 by prisoner jack leonard san quentin and contains 43 stanzas


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: GUEST,Lighter at work
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 10:52 AM

Could you please post that copy, GUEST zuzuman? It would be very useful. How'd you come by it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 11:02 AM

Hank snow can be found singing several versions of this on The Record Lady site.
You can download the songs on Real Player.

http://www.recordlady.webgcs.com/main2.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: GUEST,Guest, Karizma!
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 01:15 AM

I hope this isn't a dead thread... I've stumbled across an envelope postmarked from Berlin found in a storage unit that hadn't been opened in decades... anyway, the envelope contains original typed copies of various poems and one of those happens to be "My Blue Velvet Band" and starts out with the line "In the City with wealth and fashion, called Frisco, I first saw the lights..." and goes on for over 100 lines (2 full pages). This particular sheet isn't date, but one of the others in the same envelope is - Nov. 13th, 1918 from St.Dizier France by Corp. A.A. Liversidge, Corp. of the Guard. So I'm just trying to find out anything I can and stumbled across this old thread regarding lyrics similar to this. Can anyone shed any light as to the original author? seems like Zuzman's comment "originated 1/4/1889 by prisoner jack leonard san quentin and contains 43 stanzas" would be most helpful, but I can't seem to find anything more... HELP ANYONE? - Thanks!
Kari (aka Karizma!)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: michaelr
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 01:37 AM

Wow, that's fascinating. San Quentin prison near "Frisco" (San Francisco) was built in 1852. It appears that more than one poet used the "Black Velvet Band" form to tell their own or other stories.

Karizma, I don't suppose you could bother to post the text here? It would be an interesting piece of folklore to have.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 08:34 AM

The R. W. Gordon collection in the Library of Congress includes a text from the mid 1920s. I also seem to recall that there's one in George Milburn's "The Hobo's Hornbook" (1929, I think).

Maybe I can dig these out. Meanwhile, I too urge Karizma to post Cpl. Liversidge's text, which seems like the earliest known copy. And what other poems did he write down?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: GUEST,Karizma
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 11:36 AM

Is there a way to scan a copy of it here? sorry, but I'm rather a novice at this blog stuff... the other pages that were included in this envelope are:

The Dogs of War
Entre Nous
The Road Out of Chatue (I'm assuming he meant Chateau) Thierry
The Face on the Floor

and some little ditty or joke/play on words about Mrs. Smith having a baby weighing 12lbs a little 'nugget' and when word got out to the news they thought it was a 'nugget' of gold and so the interview/conversation goes on in a humorous tone...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: Acme
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 12:29 PM

If you can scan them then load the scans to a third party place (I use Photobucket and Picasa generally, others use Flickr) then link out to it, that's a good start. This might be the kind of thing that Joe or someone else would want to load (Joe can use HTML here for images and tables while the rest of us are limited to decorated text).

SRS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blue Velvet Band
From: GUEST,Karizma
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 05:21 PM

:o( sorry but that's all Greek to me... so I'll just re-type it: (I'm going to type fast as it's long, so forgive me of any spelling errors and I have to chuckle as the original I'm copying has MANY!)

In the city with wealth and fashion,
Called Frisco, I first saw the lights
and the numeroius frollicks I had there
In my memory are still very bright
One evening while taking a ramble
here no'r there without thought to'r design
I encountered a young maid, fair and handsome
on the corner of Ferney and Pine
Her cheeks where the first flush of roses
her dark eyes with joy did expire
and her hair in luxurious tresses
was entwined in the Blue Velvet band

To a house of sentuous designation
she invited me with a smile
she seemd so refined and so charming
I thought I might tarry awhile
Deaftly spreading a dainty collection
of wines of an excellent brand
she conversed with jolly intimation
did the girl with the Blue Velvet band

After lunch, to her suitable compartments
we retired to the floor up above
where I thought myself nearly in heaven
where supreme resigned the Godess of love
disrobing her swelling white boosom
palpitating beneath my bold hand
I kissed and toyed with her tresses
that I released from the Blue Velvet band

On a pile of soft rugs and two pillows
she diclined, I declair on the floor,
while the bedstood invitingly ready
with its white sheets folded ov'r
so in rapture I laid down beside her
her beautiful figure I scanned
and we both hit the pipe and slumbered
in the arms of my Blue Velvet band

now months since this siren has cought me
my life, steeped in bliss rolled away
Till my pockets grew light and she taught me
the counterfitting racket to play
from opium smoking to stealing
my down-fall was artfully planned
so young men, from Fisco take warning
and beware of the Blue Velvet band
(page 2)
One night coming home-ward and dreary
with the of a jewlrey store
I hear Dearie and someone conversing
so I remained awhile outside the door
"If you furnish us clues to convict him"
said the strange voice both sweet and bold
you will then prove indeed that you love me
'Very well' said my Blue Velvet band

oh what a rage filled my heart as I heard them
How false seemed all women in vile
and to think that once I adored her
made me with grim moskery smile
my ill gotten gains she had squandered
Deceived and betrayed to another
could this be my Blue Velvet band?

But a moment before I'd been haunted
by the cops that had wounded me twice
and my temper was none of the sweeter
as I thought myself into their sight
the fly cop not liking the cold glitter
of the Colt's 45 in my hand
jumped out through the window and left me
alone with my Blue Velvet band

years have passed since this meeting
and they are all things of the past
I forgave her, but just refritation
overlook this fair, false one at last
abanded by me she sank lower through life's shifting sands
and in a hop-joint on Dupont Street
died the girl with the Blue Velvet band

what happened to me? I'll tell you
I was ditched for the desperate crime
there was hell in a bank about midnight
and my pal was shot down in his prime
a convict of hard reputation, at present I'm doing the Grand
but I of't times think of the pleasures
I had with the girl with the Blue Velvet band

One night just as bed-time was ringing
I found meself close to the bars
and I thought I heard a girl singing
away in the ocean of stars
her voice held the same tone of sadness
of one that I knew could command
the same gentle readiness of gladness
that one was my Blue Velvet band

when my time has expired I'll hasten
to this famous old city again
where I know I've a chance for some dollars
all the way from a thousand to ten
and in luck I'll endevor to live honest
away in some other land
then farewell to dear old Frisco forever
and the grave of my Blue Velvet band


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