Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 15 Jan 22 - 08:50 PM @leeneia For example, "wunderschön, from what I hear, sounds like "voon-da-shern". Is your "Troy-meh" pronunciation supposed to be more like "troima", with the ? (schwa) as in "again" and "sofa"? |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: leeneia Date: 12 Jan 22 - 12:30 AM Google thinks that berceurse is bear suz, similar to suds, so that's no help. Monique's link is nice, but it's only talking about the long u umlaut. The long umlaut has ee in the back, but the short one has short i in the back. Not every umlaut calls for rounded (or pursed) lips. Traueme is pronounced troy-meh. And Haendel (the composer) is Hendel. Spaet, the word for late, is schpate. To finish the story, the long o umlaut has long ay in the back, and the short o umlaut has short e in the back. That's all of them, I think. In Milwaukee, where I grew up, if you were named Schroeder, you were called Schrayder, because people remembered that long a in the back of the mouth. Also Koenig was Kay-nig. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 09 Jan 22 - 09:39 AM @leeneia That seems quite interesting. So would the ü be pronounced something like the "eu" in "berceuse" (approximately pronounced "bear sirs"? |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: Monique Date: 08 Jan 22 - 03:10 AM How to pronounce the German "ü" and French "u" sound: 1 and 2. Video #1 is about German words and video #2 is about French words but the sound is exactly the same and both explanations may come handy. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: leeneia Date: 08 Jan 22 - 12:15 AM I've decided to explain more about the word "suesse." (When one can't type those two dots, one inserts an e after the vowel.) That u with two dots above is a "front vowel", or in German, an umlaut. It's a u, and it has two s's after it. That makes it short. So here's what you do. You say the s like an English z. For the vowel you say short i as in pin, then you promptly round your lips slightly, so that the i is modified into a complicated-sounding new vowel. These front vowels are heard in German, French, Scottish dialect and U.S. southern dialects, and probably in other languages. Come to think of it, I believe I've heard Bulgarians use them. I wonder if they occur in Irish dialects. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: leeneia Date: 07 Jan 22 - 12:18 PM People pronounce it shlah fay if they haven't had any German classes. Your pronunciation of the last phrase is close enough for someone who has not had classes. I hope little Marleigh is thriving. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 04 Jan 22 - 02:43 PM @Reinhard If that's the case, then I wonder why some people pronounce it "Shlah fay", as if it's more like Spanish than German? I'm making a version of this song for a very special friend of mine. My beautician, Cassie, whose aunt is from Germany, is having a baby soon, on January 6, 2022. A little girl she's going to name Marleigh May Josephine, and I want to sing this lullaby to her little one. And no, I'm not going to make it shrill like an aria, as I don't like opera. My voice is meant for soft, tender tones, which are the things that lullabies are made of. At the end, I whisper, "Süße träume, kleines prinzesschen!". I could be wrong, but I think that would be approximately, "zoosa troyma, kline es prin tsess yen". Am I right that this approximately translates as, "Sweet dreams, little princess!"? |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 17 Dec 21 - 06:45 AM @Reinhard Then I wonder why some people pronounce it "Shlah fay", as if it's more like Spanish than German? I'm making a version of this song for a very special friend of mine. My beautician, Cassie, whose aunt is from Germany, is having a baby soon, hopefully in the second week of January 2022. A little girl she's going to name Marley May Josephine, and I want to sing this lullaby to her little one. And no, I'm not going to make it shrill like an aria, as I don't like opera. My voice is meant for soft, tender tones, which are the things that lullabies are made of. At the end, I whisper, "Süße träume, kleines prinzesschen!". I could be wrong, but I think that would be approximately, "zoosa troyma, kline es prin tsess yen". Am I right that this approximately translates as, "Sweet dreams, little princess!"? |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: Reinhard Date: 16 Dec 21 - 12:23 PM Yes, the second pronounciation is the usual one. The 'e' at the end is a schwa vowel as in 'the' or 'taken'. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 16 Dec 21 - 11:48 AM Interestingly enough, I'm confused on the pronunciation of "schlafe". Some pronounce it "Shlah fay", while others pronounce it more like "Shlah fuh" (to rhyme with "luftwaffe"). Which one is right? I pronounce it with the latter rather than the former. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 24 Nov 21 - 09:49 AM @leeneia "until the baby went to sleep". I'm confused! Was the baby one of your siblings? Or was it you? |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 07 Nov 21 - 05:08 PM @leeneia There's one problem, I'm sight challenged. I have no sight at all. That's why I say that I tell instruments apart just by listening to their tones. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: leeneia Date: 07 Nov 21 - 04:22 PM I think those are nylon strings, because if you stop the video at 35 seconds and look at the strings where they go over the nut, they look transparent. I agree that lullabies should be soft. I remember my mother singing them softer and softer, until the baby went to sleep, listening. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 07 Nov 21 - 03:49 PM The part where I'm confused is whether he's playing a nylon guitar or a steel guitar. Sometimes they can sound the same, even if someone like me can tell them apart by ear most of the time. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: Monique Date: 07 Nov 21 - 01:38 PM This SoYmartino guy is a Slovak guitar player. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: Stilly River Sage Date: 07 Nov 21 - 11:02 AM "Soy Martino" in Spanish means "I am Martino." So I suspect it's a business name, not actually his first name. |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 07 Nov 21 - 09:11 AM I recently found this version where a guy, at least I think it's a guy, who goes by the name Soy Martino, plays this on a guitar. I think it might be a nylon guitar, then again, it could be a steel guitar. That's where I'm confused! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbbhuXukOkk |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 07 Nov 21 - 08:25 AM @leeneia Interestingly enough, I heard a version where they sing: Schäfchen ruh'n und vögelein. Would that be less of a mouthful than, "Es ruh'n schäfchen und vögelein"? The part where a solo soprano would usually sing so high that glass would shatter? I've made an arrangement where that part is a softly playing flute instead. Since I don't like opera singing, flutes sound pretty to my ears. So do soprano saxophones. Especially when played softly. I mean, aren't lullabies supposed to be soft, not shrill like arias? I even put a bit of a crying tone in my voice (That's natural for me.), and no, this is not fake crying, the tears are for real! |
Subject: RE: Versions: Sleep Little Prince From: leeneia Date: 06 Nov 21 - 05:52 PM I can't vouch for all of it, but "Schlafe, Prinzessin, schlaf ein" looks right. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 04 Nov 21 - 11:03 AM I don't think it would be a mouthful for me. I could make it sound beautiful. And no, I don't have to sound like an opera star to have a beautiful voice! I even have a sweet version I made up in English, which I'm sure you might say would scan beautifully with the melody. Sleep, little princess, lie still. The lambs are at rest on the hill. Crickets will sing you a song. Rock you to sleep all night long. The nightingales whistle their tune. And shine with the bright silvery moon. I love you and I always will. Sleep, little princess, lie still. Lie still, lie still! And here's the version in German that I would sing. Schlafe, prinzesschen, schlaf ein. Es ruhn schäfchen und vögelein. Garten und wiese verstummt. Auch nicht ein bienchen mehr summt. Luna mit silbernem Schein. Gucket zum Fenster herein Schlafe beim silbernem Schein Schlafe, prinzesschen, schlaf ein! Schlaf ein, schlaf ein! Does that look and sound right to you? |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: leeneia Date: 03 Nov 21 - 02:05 PM The -chen ending means "little." To make it scan. Sing: schlafe, mein Prinzchen, schlaf ein OR schlaf, Prinzesschen, schlaf ein Prinzessin and Prinzesschen have the same number of syllables. Me, I think the -chen form is too much of a mouthful for pretty singing. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 01 Nov 21 - 04:00 AM @leeneia You say that "Princess" in German is "Prinzessin". Yet somebody a few posts earlier, who went by the name German, clearly wrote this: For girls, "mein Prinzchen" is changed to "Prinzesschen". Now I'm confused! Which one is the one that would scan musically? |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 23 Sep 21 - 07:01 PM @Leeneia That was so beautiful! The guy's voice reminds me of my American dad. So you say that for a daughter, I would sing something like, "Schlafe, prinzessin, schlaf ein'"? |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: leeneia Date: 21 Sep 21 - 11:31 AM Prinzessin is the German for princess. The z is very crisp, like ts. Leave out Mein and you'll be all right. Here's a nice YouTube with the lyrics and very clear singing. Sing at the front of your mouth, not back in your throat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5A1rS0OKHE Providing a written guide would take a long, long time. |
Subject: Schlafe, Mein Prinzchen, Schlaf Ein' From: GUEST,Annabelle Date: 20 Sep 21 - 08:41 AM Out of curiosity, I wonder how this lullaby would scan for a little daughter. Would it be something like, "Schlaf, Mein Prinzesschen, Schlaf Ein'"? Since I have trouble pronouncing German, as it sounds like French when I try (I'm pretty good at speaking French), I wonder, can anyone provide a written pronunciation guide for me? I know that "Schlaf Ein" is something like "Shlof Ine", but that's all I can easily pronounce. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Ann pyper Date: 03 Jan 17 - 03:21 PM Sleep little prince all is still Folded the sheep on the hill Calm lies o'er palace and park Not ev'n a sound in the dark Except for the maiden who sighs Dreams of her lover and cries Dreaming as dream lovers will Sleep little prince all is still Lie still......lie still |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Rosiewh Date: 16 Dec 15 - 09:36 PM I was so pleased to find this site, thank you. This song was sung to me when I was small, I sang it to my son and now I'm singing it to my grandchildren! The all love it and I became curious to see who else uses it and where it came from. This is the version I use: Sleep little prince all is still Folded the sheep on the hill Silent the hum of the bees Birds are at rest in the trees Silent and peaceful the room Slowly the big silver moon Rises and peeps o'er the hill Sleep little prince all is still" |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST Date: 29 Oct 15 - 01:13 AM Sleep Little Dream Prince of Mine Leave your toys soldiers in line Birds are asleep in the nests Even the bees are at rest Heavenly Stars and the Moon All will be greeting you soon Through the dark night they will shine Sleep Little Dream Prince of Mine All of the house is quite still Sheep grazing over the hill Cows and the pigs are asleep even the Chicks will not peep Heavenly Stars and the Moon All will be greeting you soon Through the dark night they will shine Sleep Little Dream Prince of Mine Sleep on, Sleep on |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Bernadette Date: 28 Jul 15 - 12:07 PM Sleep little Prince and lie still Folded the sheep on the hill Silent the hum.of the bees, birds are a nesting in trees Silent and still is the room Slowly the big silver moon Rises and peeps o'r the sill, sleep little Prince and lie still, lie still......lie still |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sleep Little Prince, All Is Still From: Joe Offer Date: 04 May 15 - 07:45 PM I found this: https://ar.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070305065116AAz0dOM: Sleep little prince all is still, Foldeth the sheep on the hill. Silent the hum of the Bees, Birds are at rest in the trees. Quiet and peaceful the room. Slowly the big silver moon, Rises and peeps o'er the hill. Sleep little prince all still, Lye still, lye still. And note all that's been posted above. -Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor- |
Subject: Lyr Req: Sleep Little Prince, All Is Still From: Joe Offer Date: 04 May 15 - 07:43 PM from the FAQ: Thread #19340 Message #3706318 Posted By: GUEST,Lynne 04-May-15 - 07:52 AM Thread Name: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide
I was also looking for a song and your page came up. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST Date: 17 Sep 14 - 04:14 PM sorry - silent the hum of the bees, birds are at rest in the trees |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,lj Date: 17 Sep 14 - 04:09 PM Folded the sheep on the hill beautiful song |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Barbara Date: 05 Apr 14 - 04:12 AM As I remember it from my school days the missing word is .......Folded the sheep on the hill. I used to love singing this.o |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Gerry in Coventry UK Date: 14 Jan 14 - 04:43 AM Our music teacher at the Star of the Sea PES in Belfast taught us one verse (only) of this lullaby. She was a Maureen O'Hara look-alike and wore an engagement ring. Funny the things you take in as a child!Probably married with a squad of kids now! Sleep little prince and be still Silent the sheep on the hill Slowly the big silver moon Rises and peeps over the sill Sleep little prince and be still Lie still.l.l.l.l Lie still. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Bernadette Date: 15 Aug 13 - 09:36 AM I learned this song at school, but only the first verse..... Sleep Little Prince and lie still Folded the sheep on the hill Silent the hum of the bees Birds are a'resting in trees Silent and still is the room Slowly the big silver moon Rises and peeps o'er the sill Sleep little Prince and lie still Lie still, lie still. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 19 Jul 12 - 10:50 AM Thanks for the link. Now we have the words and the tune. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: blinddrunkal Date: 18 Jul 12 - 10:52 AM http://youtu.be/XjtHdUl-YI0 |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: blinddrunkal Date: 18 Jul 12 - 10:50 AM http://youtu.be/XjtHdUl-YI0 can't get the blue clicky to work! |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST Date: 18 Jul 12 - 08:21 AM Sleep Little Prince Sleep Little Prince and lie still, Folded the sheep on the hill Silent the hum of the bees birds are at rest in trees Quiet and peaceful the room Slowly the big Silver Moon Rises and peeps o'er the 'sill Sleep little Prince and lie still....... Lie still...lie still........ Who is as happy as thou Free as a bird on the bough Plenty of nice things to eat Fine golden shoes for thy feet Horses and carriage to ride Footman to run by thy side All will be thine if thy will Sleep little prince and lie still Lie still…… Lie still I adapted this song for my daughter with the word princess |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST Date: 09 May 12 - 01:15 AM I was taught this at school (only one verse, we were only 4/5) Sleep Little Prince and lie still, Folded the sheep on the hill Silent the hum of the bees birds are a' resting in trees Silent and still is the room Slowly the big Silver Moon Rises and peeps o'er the 'sill Sleep little Prince and lie still....... Lie still...lie still........ I sang this to my sons & grandsons I adapted the verse for my daughter/grandaughters & greatgrandaughters "Sleep little Princess lie still" |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,kay Date: 02 Oct 11 - 07:11 AM I have been trying to find the words to the begining of this lullaby but I can perhaps help with some of the rest. ? folded the sheep on the hill silent the hum of the bees birds are at rest in the trees quiet and peaceful the room slowly the big silver moon rises and peeps ore the sill sleep oh my prince and be still lie still lie still Who is so happy as thou free as a bird on the bough plenty of nice things to eat fine golden shoes for thy feet carriage a horses to ride footmen to run by thy side all will be thine if thou will sleep oh my prince and be still lie still lie still |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 12 Aug 11 - 11:47 AM You have my sympathy, Angela. I think most children respond to the idea of fairness. Try setting a a number of times you will sing it, and count them together. After that, say, "Mommy's throat is hurting from so much singing. It's time to stop." If he fusses, say "It's not fair to make Mommy hurt. I don't make YOU hurt." And let him fuss. I just learned something new about autism. An article said autistic children learn, but they learn more slowly. Twenty percent of autistic children eventually grow up normal. I hope you find that encouraging. Hey, I just had an idea. Why don't you put up a new post and ask Mudcatters if somebody will make a YouTube of the song for you. Specify exactly what you want. Woman's voice, I suppose. The first verse only? If you do, I can produce a MIDI file which somebody can convert to an abc file, if needed. The only trouble is those last lines of the verses, ("lie still, lie still") I don't have those in my version and I don't know how they go. Do you sing those last lines? |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Angela Date: 12 Aug 11 - 11:21 AM I grew up listening to the version dc bird wrote out there. I am in Ireland too though it was my mother who sang it to me and she is English. Been trying to find it on you tube cos its the only song that will put my son to sleep and my throat is raw from singing it. My son is autistic and he is very particular about what songs he wants to hear and when.If I try other songs he just fusses about. I can sing it 30 times in a night. If I sing Sleep My Little Prince one more time I may go crazy.... |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,German Date: 07 Sep 10 - 05:50 AM The German text is from Gotter's play "Esther". It was probably first printed in 1795 (Leipzig), when W.A. and L. had long joined the Heavenly Choirs. The melody by the physician Bernhard Flies seems to be just a variant of an original by Friedrich Fleischmann. (The Wikipedia article has been written by the composer's descendants and thus may not be unbiased.) Folk tradition changed the beginning of the lyrics for better rhythm: "Schlafe, mein Prinzchen, es ruhn / Schäfchen und Vögelein nun ...". For girls, "mein Prinzchen" is changed to "Prinzesschen". Only the first stanza is common knowledge, my mum sang it at my cradle. Indeed, the sighing maid may not be the best idea to make a child sleep. (A genuine prince is not supposed to worry about maids, but will he know that when he's alone at night?) |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,dc bird Date: 06 Sep 10 - 04:07 PM I heard Mozart's dad wrote the melody. This is the version I grew up with in Ireland. Sleep little prince and lie still folded the sheep on the hill silent the hum of the bees birds are at rest in the trees quiet and peaceful the room slowly the big silver moon rises and peeps o'er the sill sleep little prince and lie still lie still, lie still (very slowly) not even a mouse is a stir cupboard and cellar are bare calm lies o'er palace and park never a sound in the dark save for the maiden who cries wakes from her slumber and sighs dreaming as fond lovers will sleep little prince and lie still lie atill....lie still None is so happy as thou free as a bird on the bough plenty of nice things to eat fine golden shoes for thy feet carriage and horses to ride footmen to run by thy side all will be thine if thou wilt sleep little prince and lie still, lie still lie still |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,Helper Date: 03 Jun 10 - 08:51 PM We sang this in German and English in school quire. I seem to remember the first verse of the English along the lines of: Sleep little prince close your eyes All the world slumbering lies Garden and Meadow are still Bees are not home from the hill Moonbeam-like silvery light Sweps in to kiss thee goodnight Sleep by the silvery light Sleep dear prince charming good night Good night, good night |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: ard mhacha Date: 09 Oct 08 - 01:00 PM http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zm8CTJl8yA Many renditions on You Tube, Schlaf mein Prinzchen. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: GUEST,soph Date: 08 Oct 08 - 02:48 PM sleep little price close your eyes all naturing slumbering lies silent the birds in the trees silent the hum of the bees even the silverly moon bids its farewell to us soon sleep by the moons gentle light sleep dear prince charming good night good night,good night |
Subject: RE: Help: Sleep Little Prince From: Joe Offer Date: 30 Aug 08 - 06:09 PM Let's see if I can clean off some of the HTML and post the version from ingeb.org
Schlafe, mein Prinzchen |
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