BS: George Bush, next president

Subject: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 01:55 AM

I just did this ridiculous thread to match the equally ridiculous thread titled, Al Gore, next president.

Comment as you wish. If you dont' wish to, join me for a drink in the Mudcat Pub. I'll buy!

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: JamesJim
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 01:57 AM

I will continue this in an equally ridiculous fashion. Drinks are on you? I'm on my way.

Jim

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 01:58 AM

Heh-heh. But YOUR thread title is probably correct, damn you! :)

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:06 AM

So, Jim, Lepus Rex, what'll you have? DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:21 AM

Come on Mudcatters! The thread about Al Gore for President has 19 posts to only 4 for this one! Surely there are enough Bush detractors out there to at least MATCH the folks on the other thread who are, at this point, probably claiming victory!

:>)

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:21 AM

So we elect a Republican Congress with a Democratic Pres, or a Democratic Congress with a Republincan Pres. Is there really a difference? Make mine Guinness, because I don't really think it matters who is elected. Nor do I think it matters who I vote for. The end result will probably be the same. The Little People lose, and the Big People win. Sorry I am such a pessimist/cynic but I come from a long line of those.

Max (or Clive Cussler/Admiral Sandecker) for President.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:23 AM

Oh, yeah. I'll have root beer, Doug:)

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:33 AM

Root beer for Lepus Rex! You got it! Sorcha, whatcha drinking? DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:38 AM

Root Beer is probably best just now. Make it a double.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:40 AM

You got it, Sorcha, with lots of foam! DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Carlin
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:43 AM

Mind if I nose in for a Crown and 7?

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 03:34 AM

Hey, everybody, the beer line is shorter over here! Forget about politics and belly up to the bar.
Who cares who wins?
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Midchuck
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 07:35 AM

Bush will do less. Therefore, he will do less harm.

That's as close as I can come to saying anything positive about either of them.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: kendall
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 07:58 AM

PEOPLE .. IT DOES MATTER!! Do you want 3 more Clarence Thomas' on the Supreme Court? You dont care? then by all means, vote for the Lightweight champion of Texas. Roe v Wade is out the window, and the NRA will run the defense dept.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Midchuck
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 08:29 AM

"...and the NRA will run the defense dept."

YES! (Or maybe you suppose it's being well run now? Hmmm?)

P.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: kendall
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 08:36 AM

It probably could stand improvement, the Secretary of defense is a republican..

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 08:56 AM

If Bush is president does that mean I don't have to show up for National Guard duty either?

Make mine ginger ale, please. Ginger beer makes my eyeballs hurt...

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 09:04 AM

Hot whiskkey, please. If you need the recipe I'll post it. I'll be drinking a lot of it if this thread title turns out to be true!

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Troll
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 09:15 AM

What we really need is a choice that says "NONE OF THE ABOVE"!

troll

Oh yeah. Diet Coke, DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 11:52 AM

There you go again, Kendall! You're holding back again!

Drinks are on the house (which means somebody might have to help Kendall up the stairs). :)

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: mousethief
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 11:59 AM

I find it amusing that the competing threads so closely resemble the candidates they are named after. The Gore thread seems to be focused on issues, whereas the Bush thread is a bunch of silliness and folderol.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 12:06 PM

Thanks, Kendall. I will be sure to vote....for Bush.

Bob S.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Jed at Work
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 12:41 PM

Make mine a guinness, since the cyber world is the only one in which I can drink alcohol (tri-glyceride issue, booze is poison to me, sadly), I might even have two, since you're buying! ;-)

It seems to me that the US has taken this election more seriously then ones in the recent past. We've heard more issues then most can understand (the devil is ALWAYS in the details when it comes to issues, and therefore our discussions about them can't really go beyond philosophy and sound bites). Anyone who cares to notice will have seen and heard plenty from each major candidate, and if they wanted to look further, from all candidates.

For me, stated philosophies, recent record, political alliances, expressed views, presentation skills, body language and what they say when speaking extemporaneously (yes even in the guarded situations of staged debates) gives me plenty of information to make a decision. We have two well qualified, intelligent, well supported choices as our major candidates for this job. All the hateful talk and cynicism by us and other voters not withstanding. I will cast my vote, and I will hope for a victory for my candidate - but I am sure that either man will make an honorable president, and either will do his honest best to do the job well. I am much philosphically aligned with one then other, but I will honor the position no matter who gets elected.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: LR Mole
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 01:16 PM

Well, as Sinclair Lewis said (unless it was Upton Sinclair), no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.I'll drag myself to the polls, though, feeling more deserving of pity than scorn. Beyond anger is only a sort of hollowness, and that's the U.S. resonance, I think.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: LR Mole
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 01:17 PM

Well, as Sinclair Lewis said (unless it was Upton Sinclair), no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.I'll drag myself to the polls, though, feeling more deserving of pity than scorn. Beyond anger is only a sort of hollowness, and that's the U.S. resonance, I think. Just water, thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Midchuck
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 01:46 PM

Jed said:

"We have two well qualified, intelligent, well supported choices as our major candidates for this job.... I am sure that either man will make an honorable president..."

I assume that's intended as a joke, but I miss the point.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: kendall
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 03:30 PM

You do that Bob, and if that airhead wins, I will be here, forever to remind you!

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 03:45 PM

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 06:21 PM

Alex: The Gore thread is devoted to "issues?" Wasn't aware Bush bashing fell into that category!

Midchuck: what's not to understand? I don't think Jed is joking and I take him to mean that they are both good men and the country is not going down the drain if either man is elected. I agree with him, I just think Bush will do a better job of governing. Someone in this thread parised Gore's credentials in foreign affairs based on the fact that he has been in Washington so long. That's precisely what bothers me about him.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 06:37 PM

I am moving to Canada

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 06:38 PM

Wait a minute! Wasn't George Bush our last president? Before the sax playing guy? Didn't we already throw his smirky ass out? O-o-o-o-h, that was his daddy. . .

I'll drink whatever you're buying (as long as it's whiskey) and then we can argue about which of the donkeys and pink heffalumps would make a better caretaker of el Casa Blanca (Of all the gin joints in all the world, these two mopes have to pick this one). Ain't politics grand?

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 06:40 PM

Why is there no "BS" in front of the thread about AL Gore? Just wondering.

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: kendall
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 06:51 PM

Its silly to think bush would be better at foriegn affairs. He is governor of "Bubba Land" Gore has been a heartbeat away from being president. How can you compare the two offices?

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Troll
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 07:08 PM

Mole, it was H.L.Mencken who said that.
Kendall, I really can't recall any major foreign policy triumphs during the Clinton Years. Unless maybe you mean the bombing of that pharmaceuticals plant and the massive effort he mounted in Rwanda to prevent genocide there. Now we have had a US warship attacked, apparently by terrorists.The world awaits to see what Clinton will do.
My guess is that he will call Al Gore to Washington to sit at his side in the Situation Room to show that he (Gore) has a good grasp of foreign policy, while the Bush team will get the same briefings as the press. In other words it doesn't matter that americans are dead, let's play this for every ounce of political gain that we can.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 07:58 PM

Just one thing, Troll: Terrorists don't attack military targets, they attack civilian targets. As despicable as bombing an 'innocent' Navy ship may be, it's no worse than the US shooting down Iraqi military airplanes, and certainly much better than the US bombing civilian targets in Belgrade. Like it or not, once 'terrorists' attack a military target, they're no longer 'terrorists', but an army. We're all using the same techniques, after all.

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 08:01 PM

Wow, troll, I hadn't thought about Clinton spiriting Gore back to lead the investigation, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Clinton desperately wants to be remembered for something other than a stain on a young intern's dress, though, so on the other hand he might not want Al's help. I guess we'll see.

Kendall! The Texas governor will enter the White House with exactly the same credentials on foreign policy that former Governor Clinton did. Bush does have access to a former president with excellent credentials on foreign policy though, and they probably visit about it over cups of coffee or something. I'd think Bush probably will enter the oval office with a great deal more information in that regard than the Arkansas governor did.

Don't know why BS wasn't included in the Gore for Prez thread. I added it to this thread because that's exactly what it was intended to be.

Who was that ordering a whiskey? Oh, Bart! You got it, just name your brand. This bar is well equipped.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: kendall
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 08:23 PM

OK, your point is well taken. The old man, with the help of 14 other countries ALMOST licked Saadam Hussien. Have you noticed that there is only a handful of people in this "discussion?" I'm tired of it, and, I know I can not change your minds, and you sure as hell wont change mine. Enough already!

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: bbc
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 08:45 PM

I'll go for the drink, Doug, but I do hope it's a victory cup! It's nice that you're serving now. :)

love you,

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Skeptic
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 09:06 PM

Oh come on. I'll bet Gore and Bush will be equally adept at ignoring, insulting and misunderstanding other coutries, friend and for alike.

My trouble with Bush is that he comes across as if he derserves to be president because he's from the right family, has money and friends with money, and gosh darn it, his sort are just supposed to run things, else why would he have money, power and position?

Granted, Gore isn't much better. There seeems to be a little feel of noblise oblige there. And I'd prefer it be his VP that's one heartbeat away the Oval Office.

I find Gore's domestic agenda to be less opressive than Bush's. Granted Gore is into feel good political correctness. I'd prefer that over what seesm to be trend toward a a quasi-calvanism. At least the politically correct crowd pays lip service to diversity. I suspect that deep in his heart, Dubya knows Pat Robertson's right.

Regards

John

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: GUEST,mousethief (at the library)
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 09:28 PM

Doug: I looked through the Gore thread. There were 2 Bush-bashing posts, and two that strongly called him to task for misstatements or past behaviors. And maybe five in which the people said they hoped he lost, and another five stating a preference for the Democrat over the Republican party. Out of 48.

On the other hand there were 2 Clinton bashing posts (with Gore being found "guilty by association" either implicitly or explicitly), and 1 Gore-bashing post.

The rest were about specific issues, or whether one should vote at all, or about the flawedness of the system.

So yeah, the group seemed to be more heavily leaning toward Gore than toward Bush. But a Bush-bashing thread? Nah, I don't see it that way.

Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Mbo
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 09:32 PM

Is it me, or has Mudcat turned into a political forum? What happened to all the FUN BS?

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Troll
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 09:45 PM

M.Beau, this IS fun.It's also important that we all, no matter what our political persuasion,discuss whats going on. Otherwise we must rely on the pre-digested crap that the parties put forth as information.
Where else would I learn that Kendall-a staunch Democrat- doesn't like Gore?

troll

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 09:50 PM

Yeah Doug...I'll take your drink and a lot more if Bush gets it. To quote from "Animal House," "I suggest you start drinking heavily."

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 10:21 PM

bbc, you sweet doll you, you can have anything you want! Sure good to see that good old bbc again on threads! Smaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Ok, Spaw! What's your pleasure? How about a Lone Star beer? Might as well get use to it. It's probably gonna become the national beer after the first of the year (giggle)

Mousethief: you ACTUALLY did that? Wow! I'm impressed. Are you retired? I am, so I have lots of time, but I'd never do that. You're a good man!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: Mbo
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 10:26 PM

But what about the socio-political impact of Red Hugh O'Neill's gallowglasses-with-mattocks at the battle of the Yellow Ford?

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: DougR
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 10:44 PM

MBO! Why are you wasting your time in a thread like this?

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: kendall
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 11:14 PM

His time, or ours Doug?

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: JamesJim
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 11:56 PM

Doug, can you tell me how many I've had already? I know I've been drinking way too much lately. I seem to alternate between crying in my beer and celebrating something or other.

I was feeling euphoric last night, but I am not very thrilled about what happened today. We lost some great Americans and many others were injured. My 401K went south. War is brewing in the middle east and a lot of innocent people are being killed over politics and religion. The price of crude oil just hit an all time high...and when I woke up this morning, Bill Clinton was still President (could this be what is meant by cause and effect)?

Please give me something a little stronger this time -- Maker's on the rocks will do!

Jim

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: kendall
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 08:28 AM

Break out the Canadian Club Rick, I'm on my way...

Subject: RE: BS: George Bush, next president
From: JedMarum
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:11 AM

lol@kendall - I gotta laugh. I know it's timeto put this thread to bed, and I knew I shouldn't habe eeven looked in, but I did, and wound up posting one final message.