BS: Is liking pornography wrong?

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:51 PM

Why does everyone read what they WANT to see, rather than what's there?

I didn't say churches were the only source of values. I gave churches as an EXAMPLE (look up "e.g." in your dictionary!) of one source of values.

Sheesh.

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: Wavestar
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:49 PM

I'd like to think, Mousethief, that churches aren't the only sources of morality. What about your mother?

I don't think it's wrong, and niether do I get the feeling from it that Ebbie does, but I think Annamill's right, it's not that interesting. Look, those people are having fun. Don't you wish you were?

-J

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:49 PM

Whoa, I didn't mean it to be harsh. I just think there's no answer to the question simpliciter, because it depends so much on the source of one's values. In the church I am a member of, it is considered wrong. But if you're not a member of that church, then its moral strictures don't apply to you. According to other worldviews, it is not.

I'm sorry if I came across as being harsh; that certainly was not my intent.

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:46 PM

Ebbie - I don't get the connection between the incident you described and pornography.

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:43 PM

Whoo, Mousethief, that comes across as a little harsh.

I can't speak for men or for other women, for that matter, but I know how I feel about it.

The reason I don't like pornography is that it makes me feel bad. It's like reading a violent novel or watching a horrific movie with its attendant touch-of-sadistic aggression. The person I am then is not the person I want to be and is not the person I think I am. I believe that we all are capable of responding to button pushing.

I liken it to mob mentality. Many people would never by themselves beat someone up or torch a building but caught in a mob frenzy may find themselves doing just that.

I once had a graphic example of that. My daughter was 4 years old when one day I investigated an uproar in the courtyard of the compound where we were living. There was a group of maybe 6 kids, the oldest one 12, who were throwing rocks at a 5 -year-old and telling her to go home. My little daughter was among them. I waded into their midst, sent my daughter home to await our talk, told everyone to go home and to tell their parents that they could expect a visit from me that evening and walked the little girl home.

All that said, I'm sure pornography has its uses- in prisons and island shipwrecks- and that doesn't bother me in the least. It does seem a lonesome way to go.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:43 PM

Difficult question, even if you ignore the problem in defining what is meant by "pornography". I would think that you'd have to eliminate the type of explicit material that involves children and the exploitation of someone against their will, both of which are obviously wrong. Some people would eliminate depictions of homosexuality and bestiality on a similar basis. You can go on to limit the field in all sorts of ways.

If you limit the field (on whatever basis you choose), and then change the question to "what's wrong with pictures that arouse the libido?" I can't give you a good answer. There are many prohibitions against practices that effect only the individual that are designed to protect us from ourselves. Maybe there are reasons rooted in religious and social taboos that may or may not have been legitimate once and may or may not be legitimate now. Maybe there a real, sound psychological reasons (the possible substitution of imagination for reality, or possible withdrawal from actual human contact, etc.) for these taboos. Personally, I think it's all extremely subjective.

If it doesn't become obsessive or excessive - why not?

Bart

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: annamill
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:39 PM

I'm opening a video store (gutsy, huh) and just bought 3,340 adult films (we don't call them porn ;-) **BG**). I don't care if Honey watches them, but I have no real interest at this point in time. Maybe if they were a little more female oriented, instead of so very male oriented, I would be. The ones I have watched were boring to me.

Honey says he just watches for academic reasons. ???? Right! Funny, cause he's very prudish. Much more than me.

Love, annamill

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: harpgirl
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:36 PM

If you live in Alabama, you better watch out! You could get arrested! Marital aids are now illegal!

Subject: RE: BS: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:20 PM

Wrong according to whom? Some moral sources (e.g. some churches) say it's wrong; other say it isn't. Whether it's wrong for you, I guess, would depend on where you get your morals from.

Alex

Subject: Is liking pornography wrong?
From: GUEST,a well recognised catter
Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:19 PM

Is pornography wrong?

Most males use it, but will totally deny it if their wife/girlfrind asks them.

Women know that we use it, we lie and say we don't.

WHY IS THAT?