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Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)

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THE MAGPIE
THE MAGPIE 2


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rhymes for counting Magpies (44)


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The Magpie 2 (noted by Peter Kennedy and S. O'Boyle from Annie Jane Kelly at Keady, Armagh, in 1952, as The Magpie's Nest. The tune is a variant of The Cuckoo's Nest Midi made from notation in Kennedy's Folk Songs of Britain and Ireland, 1975.)


Martin Ryan 09 Dec 96 - 09:40 AM
Doc 09 Dec 96 - 07:51 PM
LaMarca 13 Dec 96 - 05:46 PM
dick greenhaus 14 Dec 96 - 09:24 AM
16 Dec 96 - 04:37 AM
Mike Watson 25 Dec 96 - 12:14 PM
Bert Hansell 26 Dec 96 - 08:47 AM
MIke Watson, Maldon 09 Jan 97 - 02:40 PM
MMario 07 Nov 01 - 09:31 AM
GUEST,MCP 07 Nov 01 - 01:25 PM
MMario 07 Nov 01 - 01:30 PM
GUEST,MCP 08 Nov 01 - 06:23 AM
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lamarca 08 Nov 01 - 10:45 AM
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GUEST,Martin Ryan 08 Nov 01 - 11:12 AM
MMario 08 Nov 01 - 11:34 AM
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GUEST,Martin Gibson 30 Dec 03 - 03:41 PM
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MartinRyan 17 Oct 11 - 06:59 AM
GUEST,Jeanette Stockwell 02 Jan 12 - 03:48 AM
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foggers 02 Jan 12 - 12:08 PM
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GUEST,leeneia 02 Jan 12 - 02:57 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 02 Jan 12 - 06:02 PM
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Joe Offer 04 May 16 - 09:59 PM
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Subject: The Magpie
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 09 Dec 96 - 09:40 AM

Anyone know anything more about "The Magpie" - apart from the bald statement in the DT that It was written by "Dave Dodds"?

Thanks

Martin Ryan


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: MAGPIE'S NEST (from Peter Kennedy)
From: Doc
Date: 09 Dec 96 - 07:51 PM

Hi Martin!

In Peter Kennedy's book "Folksongs of Britain and Ireland" there's a tune called the "Magpie's Nest". He classifies it as a "song of seduction".

[4/4 time]

The lyrics follow:

(C) For if (C) I were a king
Sure, I would make you a queen
I would (Bflat) roll you in my arms
Where the (F) meadows they are green
Yes, I'd (C) roll you in my heart's content
I will (F) sit you (C) down to (F) rest
Long(C) sides me Irish (G) colleen
In the (C) mag-(F) pie's (C) nest

(Chorus: Mouth music at a little quicker pace)
(Am) Skiddly-idle-daddle-diddle- (G) didle-dadle-dum
Di- (Bflat) didle-dadle-dum-daddle- (F) diddle-didle-dum
Skiddly-(C) idle-daddle- (F) diddle-(C) dadle-diddle-didle- (F) dum
I will (C) l'ave you down to (G) rest (G7) in the (C) mag- (F) pie's (C) nest

For the magpie's nest
It is a cottage neat and clean
It stands 'longside the Shannon
Where the meadows they are green
But I never met a colleen
With such beauties blest
Like the little Irish fairy
In the magpie's nest

For I have wandered all through Kerry
I have wandered all through Clare
From Dublin down to Galway
From there to God knows where
But I never met a colleen
With such beauties blest
Like the little Irish fairy
In the magpie's nest

Hope this helps - beware of the chord changes in the chorus.
I'm not real good with Skiddly-idle-dums.

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 2-May-03.


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: LaMarca
Date: 13 Dec 96 - 05:46 PM

The Magpie uses an old children's counting rhyme for its chorus; the same rhyme "One's for sorrow, two's for joy, etc" is used for counting crows (there's a gorgeous children's picture book of it by an author whose name escapes me; I have it at home) and for counting bluebirds (there's a Jean Ritchie song about that). Other than that, David Dodds simply compiled many of the old folk beliefs about magpies and other members of the corvine family into a really neat song.


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 14 Dec 96 - 09:24 AM

Oh, THAT Magpie. It's in the database: Search for Magpie.


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From:
Date: 16 Dec 96 - 04:37 AM

LaMarca: Many thanks. I half-guessed that it might be somethning like that. I've seen the "Devil, Devil.." bit quoted as a kind of charm. As you say, a great song anyway and a perfect air. Best Wishes

Dick I knew it was there - it was what it meant that was puzzling me!

Martin


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: Mike Watson
Date: 25 Dec 96 - 12:14 PM

Coincidence time!

I heard the Magpie a few years ago when 'Belles of the North' stayed with my morris side on a UK tour, and have been trying to get the words ever since. On my first visit to these pages, I find the words and a thread on the subject!

I have nothing to add on the origin, but I wonder if anyone out there could post the tune - I cant remember that either.

Mike Watson Maldon U.K.


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 26 Dec 96 - 08:47 AM

A related issue....

We had a counting song as kids which we used to count sneezes. I was told that it was also used to count magpies. It goes. "Once a wish, twice a kiss, three times a letter, four times soemthig better"

By the way Mike; is that Maldon, Essex? We used to go folk dancing at the Youth Hostel there.


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: MIke Watson, Maldon
Date: 09 Jan 97 - 02:40 PM

Still hoping that someone might let me have the tune for the 'magpie'.

Yes, Bert, it is that Maldon, tho the YH is no longer there (i believe it is a house now).


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: MMario
Date: 07 Nov 01 - 09:31 AM

the tune for "The Magpie" (the Dave Dodd tune) is still "missing" - anyone know it?


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 07 Nov 01 - 01:25 PM

The magpie was meant to be a portent of evil and on seeing one you were meant to say "Devil, devil I defy thee" and spit, to counteract the effect. Dave Dodds had a story about giving a lift to an old woman who did this and then spit on the floor of his new Jaguar, not to his best pleasure. (I think that was the story anyway). Dave Dodds was a regular visitor to the Herga FC, (Wealdstone, UK) in the late '70s (IIRC) before he moved down to Devon. I've heard nothing of him in recent years

If I put my mind to it(have to think about the verse a bit - I haven't heard the song for quite a few years) I could probably give you the tune. I'll get back on this.

Mick


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: MMario
Date: 07 Nov 01 - 01:30 PM

*gotta love this place!*

Anything you can manage....grazie


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Subject: Tune Add: THE MAGPIE
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 06:23 AM

Here is the tune as promised (and as I recall it - any emendations welcome):

Mick

The/ magpie brings us/ tidings of/ news both fair and/ foul
She's more/ cunning than the/ raven More/ wise than any/owl
She/ brings us news of the / harvest Of/ barley wheat and/ corn
She/ knows when we'll go/ to our graves/ How we shall be/ born//
One's for sorrow/ Two's for joy/ Three's for a girl and/ Four's for a boy/
Five for silver/ Six for gold And/ Seven for a secret/ never told//
Devil devil/ I defy th-/ ee//
Devil devil/ I defy th-/ ee/
Devil devil/ I defy/ thee//


X: 1
T:Magpie, The
M:C|
L:1/4
Q:1/4=80
C:Dave Dodds
K:GDor
D| G G G D| F D z D| G> F F G| A3
A/ A/| B< G G G| A F2 A| B> G G< F | G3
D| G G G D/ D/| F D z D| G F F G| A3
A| B G G G| A< F F2| B G G F| G4||
G> G G<G| F> G D2| G G/ G/ A A| B A/ G/ A2|
d> d c/B/ A|\
M:3/2
L:1/4
B G ^F2-F> D|\
M:C|
L:1/4
G/ G/ G/ G/ G D| F<G G2-| G4||
G<G G<G| F> F E D-| D4|
G<G G<G| B> B A G-| G4|
G<G G<G| F> F E< G|G4-| G3||


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: MMario
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 10:21 AM

Thank you!


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: MMario
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 10:31 AM

NWC file sent to Joe. MCP - Extra thanks for the "/" marks! makes setting the lyric to the tune a snap.


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: lamarca
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 10:45 AM

Nice to see this thread resolved - The Magpie is still one of my favorite songs to sing. I don't have the foggiest notion how to annotate melodies on the computer, though. I learned it from the US group, Magpie (Greg Artzner and Terry Leonino), and Sally Rogers and Howie Bursen have also recorded it over here. It's a haunting song, and is fun to sing in parallel fifths with a partner.


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 11:12 AM

MMario - my pleasure.

If you want to mail me a copy of the current missing tunes list, I'll have a look and see what I can come up with. You can reach me at MCPearce0ATaolDOTcom (with suitable substitutions. BTW that's a zero at the end of the name).

Mick


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 11:12 AM

Great song!

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Magpie
From: MMario
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 11:34 AM

lamarca - I will take scans/pdf's/gifs of sheet music, or even handwritten snail-mailed stuff...(*grin*)(and for those abc or midi impaired - can provide the same for many of the "found" tunes)

Mick - the file is on the way - feel free to ask for updates as well - because it changes almost daily.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: GUEST,claire
Date: 30 Dec 03 - 04:22 AM

i know a different version it goes like this
1 for sorrow
2 for joy
3for a girl
4for a boy
5 for silver
6 for gold
7 for a secreat never to be told
8 for a wish
9 for a kiss 1
10 for a time of joyous bliss


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 30 Dec 03 - 03:41 PM

I thought the Magpie song was about Heckel & Jeckel.

One of them was even British.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 06:04 AM

Can anyone tell me if Dave Dodds is still alive/active/contactable? A friend of mine may be recording this song and wants to do the decent...

Regards


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 10:15 AM

Martin

I haven't heard anything of him for years, but if he's still about Johnny Collins or Jim Mageean will probably have a contact for him. If noone puts anything up in the meantime, I'll give one of them a call later and see if they know.

(I'm rebuilding my computer now, so that's contingent on it going well!)

Mick


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: GUEST,Maritn Ryan
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 10:36 AM

Mick

I was talking ot Jim McGeean a few weeks ago, as it happens - he was in Dublin for a weekend. I hadn't been asked for the details at that stage - but had the impression that Jim had lost contcsat with him. He told the spitting story, alright!

Regrads

p.s. Give my regards to Jim if you're talking to him. Tell him the carol-singer says hello!


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: GUEST,Wouko
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:04 PM

Davy Dodds used to sing in a band called Red Jasper. They recorded the song The Magpie. The band did split up somewhere around the millenium.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: GUEST,guest who
Date: 26 May 05 - 06:11 PM

Isn't it-
10 for a bird you will not miss? Probably changed it or I heard different version?


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: Bryony
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:17 PM

Hello, does anyone have any further info on Dave Dodds or this song?
We're starting to perform it out with The Demon Barbers and I don't know much about it.

I first heard it as a floor spot at a folk club and the tune stayed in my head, then I was reminded of it when I heard it on Liz and Paul Davenport's album.

Cheers,
Bryony


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 10 - 06:33 PM

Dunno about the origins, but Alasdair Roberts does a great version of this song.

Thanks for the chords, I was having a devil of a time figuring out what that Bflat chord was!


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 06:59 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Jeanette Stockwell
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 03:48 AM

Can anyone resolve a family discussion as to whether or not there are really two rhymes involved here ? I can remember as a child being quoted the Sneezing rhyme that - if my memory serves me right only goes up to four - i.e

once a wish, twice a kiss, three times a letter, four times something better.

I guess that if you sneezed more than four times in succession it was something to worry about.

As for the Magpie song, I only knew the version from the children`s programme by that name which my children used to watch when they were small. That goes just up to seven, as previously quoted - i.e seven for a secret never to be told.

So are they two songs or just one ? Does anyone out there really know ?


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 09:54 AM

There's a version on our CD 'Songbook' (2008) . If you want all of the verses they're on our website for download (along with the lyrics to the other tracks).
I tried to contact Dave Dodds when we recorded this but failed to ascertain his whereabouts other than that he was in the USA somewhere.
http://www.hallamtrads.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: foggers
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 12:08 PM

@ Jeanette - I grew up knowing the two different counting rhymes, one for sneezes and one for magpies. Both are related to beliefs about the devil and his daemons; sneezing was supposed to give a demon the chance to enter your body, which is why we say "bless you".

There are also different "Magpie" songs. I too remember the 70s TV prog, and they used the words of the counting rhyme but only as far as 7.Though I don't know the origins of the tune they used, -I would guess it was a composition for that show. There is also a traditional song called Magpie's Nest, which is listed early in this thread (see post by Doc on 9 Dec 1996).

And then there is David Dodds' composed song "The Magpie" which draws together the folk beliefs. The details of that song are given in this thread too, by MCP (8 Nov 2001). I would highly recommend the version by Paul and Liz Davenport on their CD; I've heard them do it live too and it is powerful and stirring stuff.

@ Paul - hope you all had a good festive season and I look forward to crossing paths with you and Liz in 2012!


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 02:50 PM

Cheers Foggers, have a good one yourself!


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 02:57 PM

The abc posted above is a nice tune. I've transposed it to G/Am and have been playing it on the piano.

The last few measures don't seem quite right.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 06:02 PM

I've just had a quick look and I think they're OK leeneia.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 02 Jan 12 - 09:40 PM

Thanks for checking, Mick. I'll keep practicing.

It's a lovely composition.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 07 Mar 13 - 07:17 AM

Heard The Unthanks singing this recently on Irish radio - still a fine song.

Click here for a version (not The Unthanks) on Youtube.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Nigel Parry
Date: 30 Sep 13 - 04:56 AM

Thanks for the post Martin.

I sing the tune with these chords (see Martin's linky above):

Verse:
Am Em
Am Em
Am Em
Am7 Bm7 Am7
x2

The chorus is basically Am Em with some walks up & down the A string.
The first 'Devil Devil' is Am G - Em

But this is my work out as it fits my voice. I have seen the Dm Am version.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 02 May 16 - 01:30 PM

The Unthanks sang this live on BBC Radio 2 on Wednesday 27 April 2016; Simon Mayo Drivetime from the Folk Awards at the Royal Albert Hall.

The programme starts at 17.00; they sing it after 25 minutes. It should be available for 30 days. They also sing the introductory jingle.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 04 May 16 - 09:30 PM

The Roaring Forties recorded it on their Shore Leave CD. You can hear a snippet of it at https://roaringfortiesfolk.com/cds/shore-leave/

Triantan also recorded it, but I'm having trouble getting through to their website.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 May 16 - 09:59 PM

I was getting confused. The American songwriter with a similar name is David Dodson


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 05 May 16 - 03:24 AM

I spoke to David Dodds who is alive and well couple of weeks ago

regarding his song " I can hew boys I can hack it out" recorded by

Mawkin he mentioned the "Magpie" which he had written and recorded and

finding fame with the Unthanks ~ I think he may be pursuing Royalties!

He was a member of Red Jespers he told me, but retired from recording I

think in the 90s ~ he spends his time fishing!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Davey Dodds
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 06:03 PM

I am alive and getting younger and crazier by the day! At the end of May this year, my wife Jeannie bought me a mandolin as a belated birthday present. I got cajouled into playing - after 22 years - and am now strutting my stuff in Darkest Kernow. Last week, I finished recording the bones of a new solo album. The days of rock excess with Red Jasper are in the past but I


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Davey Dodds
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 06:19 PM

The last post was interupted by a techno burp. Three weeks ago, RadMax dragged me into the 21st century and put me on Facebook (Davey Dodds). I'm excited by the new album. I thought that my life as a fly-fishing guide would protect me from getting musical withdrawal symptoms. Since starting to play again, I am realising what I have been missing. Gigging and recording is great therapy! I am having a blast and enjoying life to the full. A raw basic version of The Magpie will be on the new CD - along with some interesting new stuff. Caitlin Barrett (from Roving Crows) is contributing some fiddle. Badders is battering a Bodhran and Keven Taylor is blowing some harp. Derek Aunger (once of Procul Harem) is twiddling the knobs at his Salty Dog Studio near Looe. Best wishes to anyone who reads this!


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 14 Dec 16 - 02:54 AM

Great to hear from you, Davey! I started this thread twenty years ago - and had already been singing The Magpie for a long time by then!

In recent years, I've found a curious use for it. I go to Spain twice a year as a volunteer English tutor on immersion courses for Spaniards. As a "spot" during an entertainment hour, I sing your song (in my, slightly altered, version!) - talking about the folklore, picking out a few curious words, and getting them to sing the chorus! Goes down the proverbial bomb...

Best Wishes


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 15 Dec 16 - 01:53 AM

Thanks for the update Davey!

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: michaelr
Date: 15 Dec 16 - 02:25 AM

Donovan did his bit to restore the magpie's reputation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSoxFWh6xG4


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jan 17 - 04:18 PM

met him last Friday . he was up in front playing mando to a noisy unlistening soul distroying gathering in an 'open mic' I didnt know who he was, so when he came to leave I asked him who he was.Now Ive done more research.
he mentioned the Unthanks recording of 'Magpie'
thats on Youtube , well I recognised the chorus , but hs has taken it to another level.
I'm hoping to meet and this time hear him.
I told him about Bodmin Folk club where I frequent.
This coming Friday a former mudcatter is down to appear .


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: Daniel Kelly
Date: 03 Aug 17 - 11:26 PM

Hi All,

Off-topic, but I'm doing some mining songs for my folk YouTube channel, and as I knew 'I Can Hew' from the singing of Judy Pinder in Triantan, I wanted to add it to my list.

I couldn't find current details about David on the Red Jasper site, so great to see you still active in the folk community. Hopefully you will see this message.

Here is a link to my recording:
https://youtu.be/zauCjs5qmLA

P.S. I picked up my Mandolin in Vegas in 2013 and absolutely love it.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,JMSails
Date: 30 Oct 17 - 09:58 PM

Hi, all. I'm looking for a different Magpie song, that a friend learned " from an LP by Sallie Rogers and Howie Bursen " over thirty years ago. Has a chorus consisting of the One for Sorrow, Two for Joy rhyme, plus the spitted Devil, Devil, I defy Thee (3X, of course). Does anybody know anything about either the song or Rogers and/or Bursen? Mike says he's looked for a CD of it with no success.

Thanks -- JMSails


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 04:47 AM

JMSails, the Sally Rogers & Howie Bursen song is the one David Dodds wrote, the one that's being discussed in (most) of this thread. Track listing and possible vinyl availability at https://www.discogs.com/Sally-Rogers-And-Howard-Bursen-Satisfied-Customers/release/4769785 Sally & Howie are on the bill for the New Bedford folk festival this coming July, http://www.newbedfordfolkfestival.com/performers/sally-rogers-and-howie-bursen/


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 08:37 AM

Here are a couple of shortcuts (blue clickies) to Gerry's links for Sally and Howard - here's one for the discography and the other one is at http://www.newbedfordfolkfestival.com/performers/sally-rogers-and-howie-bursen/

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,JMSails
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 02:47 PM

Sorry -- I just found the one I'm looking for about 2/3 of the way back up, posted by GUEST.MCP. Does anyone know how to read the coded stuff that seems to contain the melody(?)

Thanks -jm


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Jonathan Ferguson
Date: 08 Dec 17 - 11:07 AM

What a wonderful song. Does anyone know the date of the David Dodds original?


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Magpie (David Dodds)
From: GUEST,Wayne
Date: 08 Dec 17 - 02:07 PM

Davy Dodds' new record, Kernocopia is outstanding. A fine version of the Magpie can be found therein along with a whole bunch of excellent songs & tunes.

One of the records of the year.


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