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Lyr Req: Things I Don't Like to See

Gypsy 02 Jan 01 - 11:35 PM
Joe Offer 03 Jan 01 - 04:02 AM
MMario 03 Jan 01 - 01:51 PM
Gypsy 03 Jan 01 - 11:08 PM
Jim Dixon 11 Mar 10 - 01:03 AM
Jim Dixon 11 Mar 10 - 08:03 AM
Jim Dixon 12 Mar 10 - 10:10 AM
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Subject: I don't like to see a man ride a goat
From: Gypsy
Date: 02 Jan 01 - 11:35 PM

Well...once again, the mother-unit was visiting, and half singing, half humming (and I guess the other half was whistling) this tune. Tried to get her to write it down. yeah, right! So, here is what I gots

I don't like to see a man ride a goat
nor a boy wipe his nose on the sleeve of his coat
---------------------------------wearing false hair
Nor that gentleman kissing that maid over there

Any clues out there? Thanks so much for the effort.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: I don't like to see a man rid
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 04:02 AM

Well, I didn't find it, Gypsy - but I did find this:
one common medieval device for illustrating lechery is to depict a man riding a goat and either carrying or pursuing a rabbit
-which may entertain you while you wait and hope somebody else finds it....
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: REQ: I don't like to see a man ride a goat
From: MMario
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 01:51 PM

Burl Ives used to sing one something like this, didn't he?


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Subject: RE: REQ: I don't like to see a man ride a goat
From: Gypsy
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 11:08 PM

Ah Joe, so glad that you are exiled in CA. I appreciate the imagery! MMario, sounds about right, could very well have been something that Burl Ives did. Anyone else? Thanks, all


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Subject: Lyr Add: THINGS I DON'T LIKE TO SEE (John Ashton)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 01:03 AM

Well, this nearly has one of the lines Gypsy quoted for us:

From Modern Street Ballads by John Ashton (London: Chatto & Windus, 1888), page 167:


THINGS I DON'T LIKE TO SEE.

1. What a queer set of creatures we are, I declare!
What one person likes, why another can't bear.
It was always a plan when I went to school,
To like everything good, like the Lord Mayor's fool.
Some like to look thin; some like to look fat.
Some like to see this; some like to see that.
But, if you'll be silent, and listen to me,
I'll just tell you the things that I don't like to see.

CHORUS: You may call me a quiz; you may call me a pry,
But I cannot bear things that look queer to the eye.
If you like to see them, it's nothing to me.
I tell you there are things I don't like to see.

2. Now I don't like to see little boys with cigars.
They're better at home with their pas and their mas.
I don't like to see folks in misery sunk,
And I don't like to see a teetotaller drunk.
I don't like to see ugly women use paint,
Nor a grey headed sinner pretend he's a saint,
Nor a swell, in a dicky* tied over a rag,
Nor a fop with mustachios who's not worth a mag.

3. I don't like to see ladies picking their gums,
Nor a boy at sixteen always sucking his thumbs.
I don't like to see women drink to excess,
Nor a girl in black stockings and white muslin dress.
I don't like to see a coat fit like a sack,
Nor a man pinch his belly for the sake of his back.
I don't like to see a man whopping his moke.
It shows that his brotherly feeling's a joke.

4. I don't like to see frosty weather in May,
Nor a man wear his church-going tile every day.
I don't like to see people sulk at their meals,
Nor a girl with great taters stuck out at her heels.
I don't like to see people shooting the moon,**
Nor a chap buttoned up on a hot afternoon.
I don't like to see peelers drunk on their beat,
Nor young ladies bustles fall off in the street.

5. I don't like to see people pay twice for once,
Nor a man about thirty, a thick-headed dunce.
I don't like to see folks eat more than their whack,
Nor a swell with his hair just a yard down his back.
I don't like to see yellow wipes round the throat,
Nor a man wipe his nose on the sleeve of his coat.
I don't like to see a pretty girl pout,
Nor young ladies sending their rags up the spout.

6. I don't like to see women drest Fal de ral,
Nor a boy about twelve, sticking up to a gal.
I don't like to see parsons go to the play,
Nor a swell in white ducks, on a pouring wet day.
Now I don't like to see sorrowful faces,
And I hope another night, you'll here take your places,
For I don't like to see empty streets, I declare,
And I think that my pocket agrees with me there.

---
* A false shirt-front.
** Leaving a house, or apartments, without paying rent.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THINGS I DON'T LIKE TO SEE (Pete Morris)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 08:03 AM

Ashton's song seems to be a rewrite of this one, from the Levy Collection: (Click for the PDF file.):


Pete Morris' Celebrated Comic Melodies
Arranged for the Piano Forte by Geo. W. Peabody, Esq.
No. 3
THINGS I DON'T LIKE TO SEE
Boston: Geo. P. Reed, 1846.

1. A song I'll sing now in jingling rhymes
About matters and things in these curious times.
A lesson to all I hope it will be,
When I sing about things that I don't like to see.

CHORUS: You may call me a "quiz." You may call me a "pry,"
But I don't like things that look queer to the eye.
If you like them that's nothing to me,
So these are some things I don't like to see.

2. I don't like to see galls all the time reading sonnets,
Romances and novels wear queer little bonnets
Who screw up their waist and wear a tight sleeve,
And dare not poor creature enjoy a good sneeze.

3. I don't like to see boys just from their mamma's,
Who think they are men when they smoke a cigar;
They'd look better at school, or playing with toys,
Than running the streets exclaiming I'm one of the bo-boys.

4. I don't like to see dandies without any cash,
Promenading the streets and cut quite a dash,
Stare at the ladies, look pretty and sweet,
Without a cent in their pocket and nothing to eat.

5. I don't like for politicians who take great pains,
To show their constituents they're possess'd of large brains
Who talk about this thing likewise about that,
And all what they're after is government pap.

6. I don't like to see ladies want satin for dress,
When their husband's a bankrupt and in great distress.
They would look better at home washing up dishes
Mending holes in their stockings and their husbands old pantaloons.


[I don't know why the last line doesn't rhyme. (Also, it has too many syllables.) It reminds me of songs like SWEET VIOLETS, where they substitute a commonplace non-rhyming word for the expected rude rhyming one—except I can't think what the rude word might be. Any ideas?--JD]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I don't like to see a man ride a goat
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 10:10 AM

It's britches! (or breeches) Was "britches" thought to be a vulgar word in 1846?

This was cleared up by listening to a sample of THINGS I DON'T LIKE TO SEE recorded by Uncle Dave Macon. He sings only a 2-line chorus:

Don't like to see ladies all painted and fine
Smiling at gents that are on the decline.
They'd better be home a-washing up dishes,
Mending their dresses or husband's old britches.

You may call me a "quiz." You may call me a "pry,"
But these are some things that look queer to the eye.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I don't like to see a man ride a goat
From: bubblyrat
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 10:22 AM

I don't like to see a man riding a goat,
With the head of a rabbit peeping out from his coat ;
To me the whole thing is a monstrous affront,
And suggests that this man is a bit of a ----;
Just like Joe Offer said, Oh yes sir ! You betcha !--
This dirty old pervert must sure be a Lecher !!


Sorry, I made that up !!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I don't like to see a man ride a goat
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 10:50 AM

There's another copy of THINGS I DON'T LIKE TO SEE in Songs for All Seasons by Joseph Edwards Carpenter (London: George Routledge and Sons, 1867), page 116. The words are nearly the same as those in Ashton's book quoted above, but there are some significant differences in the last verse. I like these words better; they make more sense and they scan better:

6. I don't like to see women dress fal de ral,
Nor a boy about twelve sticking up to a gal;
I don't like to see folks smoke pipes at a play.
Nor a swell in white ducks on a pouring wet day;
But I do like to see all your gay, smiling faces,
And I hope ev'ry night you will here take your places,
For I don't like to see empty seats I declare.
And I do think you all will agree with me there.


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