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Help: Thanum an Dhul!

leprechaun 17 Feb 01 - 04:07 PM
MartinRyan 17 Feb 01 - 04:29 PM
Fiolar 18 Feb 01 - 09:12 AM
GUEST,Eirinnspride 10 Dec 11 - 03:42 PM
michaelr 11 Dec 11 - 01:16 PM
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Subject: Thanum an Dhul!
From: leprechaun
Date: 17 Feb 01 - 04:07 PM

With enough practice alone in my car, or my shower, and enough whiskey, I may yet get brave enough to sing Finnegan's Wake in public. However, Tim's expletive at the end of the song is a mystery to me. The lyrics in the DT say "Thanum an Dhul! Do you think I'm dead?" What the heck does "thanum an dhul" mean?


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Subject: RE: Help: Thanum an Dhul!
From: MartinRyan
Date: 17 Feb 01 - 04:29 PM

"your soul to the devil!"

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Subject: RE: Help: Thanum an Dhul!
From: Fiolar
Date: 18 Feb 01 - 09:12 AM

There's possibly a variety of meanings depending on what is said. I have heard it as " In ainm an Dia" - "in God's Name" or as "D'anam don diabhal" - "Damn you." Spoken quickly they could sound alike.


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Subject: RE: Help: Thanum an Dhul!
From: GUEST,Eirinnspride
Date: 10 Dec 11 - 03:42 PM

It's "d'anam don diabhal", but they have done it phoenetically, much the same way "Eirin Go Bragh" has been done, the original being of course, Eirinn ga brach. Irish Gaelic doesn't translate well with the English alphabet, and the royalists that occupied Eirinn for so many years made it more difficult as it was illegal to speak any but English. There is no real written Irish Gaelic,or at least none known, in any alphabet save the modified English (which in turn is naught but a Latin system to begin with, though the spoken English be closer to Germanic tongues).


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Subject: RE: Help: Thanum an Dhul!
From: michaelr
Date: 11 Dec 11 - 01:16 PM

Interesting. I've only heard it as "Thunderin' Jaysus".


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