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Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?

GUEST,Genie 18 Sep 01 - 01:52 AM
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GUEST,Dan in Nova Scotia 13 Aug 01 - 09:30 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: I HEARD THE BELLS ON CHRISTMAS DAY
From: GUEST,Genie
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 01:52 AM

Ian,
The events of the past week have reminded me of Longfellow's poem, "I Heard The Bells On Christmas Day," which he wrote when he heard the bells ringing on Christmas Day in, I believe, 1860, and looked out the window and saw cannons firing, as the US North and South fought each other. [Note: The posting below says 1865, but I know that was not when he was inspired to write the poem, because the Civil War was over before then.]

I am posting here the lyrics that most people sing today, but I hope someone out there has the other two verses, one of which begins
"Then as from some foul dragon's mouth,
The cannon thundered from the South ... ."

I have these verses in a book somewhere, but I think I will post a lyric request in the mean time.
Genie

I HEARD THE BELLS ON CHRISTMAS DAY

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow 1865


I heard the bells on Christmas day
Their old familiar carols play,
And, wild and sweet, the words repeat of
peace on earth, good will to men.

I thought how, as the day had come,
The bellfries of all Christendom
Had rolled along th'unbroken song
Of peace on earth, good will to men.

Till, ringing, swinging on its way,
The world revolved from night to day.
A voice, a rhyme, a chant sublime
Of peace on earth, good will to men.

And in despair I bowed my head.
"There is no peace on earth," I said,
"for hate is stong and mocks the song
of peace on earth, good will to men."

Then pealed the bells more loud & deep,
"God is not dead, nor does he sleep.
The wrong shall fail, the right prevail,
With peace on earth, good will to men."


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Subject: Lyr Add: NOTHING BUT A CHILD (Steve Earle)
From: Susan from California
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 11:54 AM

I second the nod for "Mary, Did You Know?" Keith and I do it in a rock version and if I do say so myself it kicks butt :-)

One of my favorites is Steve Earle's "NOTHING BUT A CHILD". It's on the CD Copperhead Road, and I believe on the above-mentioned Kathy Mattea CD (though I prefer Earle's version).

Once upon a time, in a far off land,
Wise men saw a sign, and set out cross the sand.
Songs of praise to sing, they traveled day and night,
Precious gifts to bring, guided by the light.

Chased a brand new star, ever towards the west ,
Across the mountains far, but when it came to rest,
They scarce believed their eyes; they'd come so many miles.
This miracle they prized was nothing but a child.

CHORUS: Nothing but a child could wash those tears away,
Or guide a weary world into the light of day,
And nothing but a child could help erase those miles,
So once again we all can be children for a while.

Now all around the world, in every little town,
Every day is heard a precious little sound,
And every mother kind, and every father proud
Looks down in awe to find another chance allowed.

REPEAT CHORUS

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 30-Nov-02.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 09:57 AM

Ian, I don't think this one has been mentioned, but it's a beauty! Mary, Did You Know?

by Mark Lowry

I like Kathy Mattea's version on her album, GOOD NEWS.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,Dan in Nova Scotia
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 09:30 AM

Actually there's a song called 'Here's to You Santa Clause', written by Stan Rogers, which talks about a kid who asks Santa for CIA equipment for Christmas and when he receives it he tortures Santa to find out how reindeer fly. The last line in the song is "Here's to you Santa Clause the Easter Bunny's next".

Also don't forget Arlo's Pause of Mr. Clause.

Cheers,

Dan


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,genie
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 03:09 AM

Por nada, Ian. Genie


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,ray bucknell
Date: 12 Aug 01 - 08:23 PM

The Chad Mitchell Trio's "Twelve Days" (to the tune of The Twelve Days of Christmas) about neo-Naziism in Cold War Germany: let's see if I remember...

He is still alive....

Monicles are back, ten swastika scribblers, got the wrong Eichmann, Telefunken H-bomb, seven million dollars, six guided missiles, to hell with Adenhaur (sp?), four Gestapo leaders, three anti-Semites, Rudolph Hess' blessings and a partridge in a pear tree.

Chilling is an understatement.

Ray


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Cappuccino
Date: 12 Aug 01 - 07:28 PM

Thanks, Genie! - ian


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 12 Aug 01 - 01:58 PM

Lindisfarne did one called Winter Song which has a sting in its tail.
Mike Harding also wrote one about Christmas 1914 in the trenches - I cannot recall the correct title.
Don't forget the one by Greg Lake of ELP.
Quack!


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE REBEL JESUS (Jackson Browne)
From: GUEST,genie
Date: 12 Aug 01 - 08:56 AM

Ian, You may have found it already, but here are the words to Jackson Browne's song which I mentioned above.

THE REBEL JESUS
(Jackson Browne)

Original recording from the Chieftains album The Bells Of Dublin

The streets are filled with laughter and light
And the music of the season
And the merchants' windows are all bright
With the faces of the children
And the families hurrying to their homes
As the sky darkens and freezes
Will be gathering around the hearths and tales
Giving thanks for all God's graces
And the birth of the rebel Jesus

They call him by the "Prince of Peace"
And they call him by "The Saviour"
And they pray to him upon the sea
And in every bold endeavor
As they fill his churches with their pride and gold
And their faith in him increases
But they've turned the nature that I worshipped in
From a temple to a robber's den
In the words of the rebel Jesus

We guard our world with locks and guns
And we guard our fine possessions
And once a year when Christmas comes
We give to our relations
And perhaps we give a little to the poor
If the generosity should seize us
But if any one of us should interfere
In the business of why they are poor
They get the same as the rebel Jesus

But pardon me if I have seemed
To take the tone of judgement
For I've no wish to come between
This day and your enjoyment
In this life of hardship and of earthly toil
We have need for anything that frees us
So I bid you pleasure and I bid you cheer
From a heathen and a pagan
On the side of the rebel Jesus.

(c) 1991 BMG MUSIC


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: SDShad
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 12:38 PM

Dar Williams, "The Christians and the Pagans"


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: dbranno
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 10:58 AM

Christmas where the gum trees grow, there is no frost and there is no snoooow... different time zones...sense of humour?
Here's one From Don Henderson (the boy from Moonee Ponds) 'round 19&70... works well as a talking blues.

I was walking late last night.
It was half past four and nearly light.
A man came up and grabbed my shirt,
Pulled my beard 'til it hurt,
Hit me once and then again,
Said, "Peace on earth, goodwill to men."

I went down to St. Vincent's,
Rang the bell in outpatients.
The sister looked up in dismay,
Said, "Third beatnik we've had today."
Took me up a passage and through some doors,
Said, "Are these two friends of yours?"

One of them was a nice old chap
In red pyjamas and a red nightcap,
Silver whiskers on his chin.
I said, "You look like Tom O'Flynn."
"That is true," he said, "but he
Is also said to look like me."

The other bloke of which I speak
Was some kind of Wop, Yid, Spag or Greek.
Had no shoes upon his feet,
And was wearing just a worn-out sheet.
I asked him why he was dressed like that.
He said, "Mix up at the Laundromat?"

I asked him just what he was here for.
He answered me that he wasn't sure.
I said, "Are you sick?" He said, "Nup,
I'm not sick; I'm just hung up."
I looked for the scars where the nails went through.
He said, "I'm only 32."

I asked him what he did for a crust.
He said, "None of your business, but if you must,
I'm saving the world." I said, "Oh.
How is business?" He said, "Slow."
A doctor came and took him away.
I said, "See ya, mate, and happy birthday."

Whew!
Fond regards (not the Xmas album, please! not that recorrrdddd!) davo

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 30-Nov-02.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: raredance
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 09:41 PM

The "?" should be """ in the Brodsky title


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: raredance
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 09:40 PM

A couple I don't think have been mentioned yet.

"Detroit December" by Si Kahn

"On Christmas I Got Nothing? by Chuck Brodsky

rich r


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 05:58 PM

KimC; the Garth Brooks song is 'The Gift', begins
A poor orphan girl named Maria
Was walking to market one day,
She stopped for a rest by the roadside,
Where a bird with a broken wing lay

Garth Brooks, 'Beyond the Season


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: lady penelope
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 03:17 PM

Beyond the realm of folk, there is, of course, "Christmas with the Devil" by Spinal Tap. It sounds rediculous, till you think about the 'oxymoron' nature of the song.

TTFN M'Lady P.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Kim C
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 01:31 PM

I love that Robert Earl Keen song!!! It's just too true.

One I haven't learned, that I have liked over the years in spite of my NOT being a Garth Brooks fan, is the song he does about the little girl who buys the nightingale in the market. I'm sorry I don't know the name of it.

Also there's one called Corn, Water and Wood that Michael Martin Murphey recorded on Cowboy Songs Christmas (the first one, I think). Very nice.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Sarah2
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 01:25 PM

And really off the wall, there's an old song by one W. Nelson called "Pretty Papers" that's simple sounding -- until the words start to register.

S.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 12:46 PM

How about The Little Match Girl?


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Bluegrass Girl
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 10:48 AM

How about "Another Silent Night" written by Patrick H Ashley. It's a true story - about a fellow whose wife died of breast cancer just before the Holidays, leaving him with two little boys to raise.

I've never performed this song without several people in the audience crying. It's a killer tune!


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: SharonA
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 10:22 AM

Serious song: "Circle of Steel" by Gordon Lightfoot.

Not-so-serious songs: "Zat You, Santa Claus?" by Louis Armstrong.
"Big Dead Bird" by Lou and Peter Berryman.
Also, The Arrogant Worms have a Christmas CD entitled "Christmas Turkey". My favorite from that is "OH GOD, I'M SANTA CLAUS" (guy dreams he's Santa, then wakes up to find that he's really the Easter Bunny).
The Bob Rivers comedy troupe has 2 Christmas collections (that I know of) that include parodies such as "We Wish You Weren't Living With Us".

Dare I say that I've written some myself? One is the Christmas story from Joseph's point of view (a lot of people find that song hard-hitting; some are offended by Joseph's language during the "anger" stage of his reaction to Mary's pregnancy); another song bemoans the difficulties encountered by a Protestant woman celebrating the holidays with her Jewish boyfriend. Got 4 more songs besides.

SharonA


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: dbranno
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 10:09 AM

Hard hitting Xmas songs ,eh? Always loved that Exiles song, still think of it as 'Thank X for Xmas' McColl's 'Moving on Song' IS moving, and a rare gem is Sydney Carter's 'Standing in the rain'


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: LR Mole
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 09:48 AM

"The Rebel Jesus", sung by Jackson Browne, is also on "The Bells of Dublin". Good Chieftans background on The Day because the song goes by and the relatives don't notice the words.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Cappuccino
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 09:02 AM

Ah yes, I'd forgotten the Tom Lehrer... got it on tape somewhere. My 13-year-old, showing uncommon good taste, has removed my Best of Lehrer to become part of his bedroom collection of 'going to sleep by' tapes. I shudder to think what effect it'll have on him...!

- Ian


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: pavane
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 05:08 AM

Tom Lehrer's satirical song is worth a try: Christmas Time. The song contains many parodies of well known Christmas carols and songs.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 03:16 AM

I can't believe I almost forgot "HEY SANTA!" by Kevin Bloody Wilson!

One of MY favorite x-mas songs!!

;-)


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Anglo
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 03:06 AM

Another one that I don't think has been mentioned is the Ditchling Carol. Recordings on one of the Waterson:Carthy CDs, also on Nowell Sing We Clear "Just Say Nowell."


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: mbridgham
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 02:59 AM

Here's a couple.

"Christmas Song" by Jethro Tull(mentioned already) "Another Christmas Song" by Jethro Tull(mysterious but wonderful) on Rock Island "Jack Frost & The Hooded Crow" by Jethro Tull(another great song in the best folky Tull vein) On 20 year anniversary CD's

"St Stephen's Day Massacre". Sung by Elvis Costello( I think) on Chieftain's Christmas Album(about relatives at Christmas)

"Over the Hill and Over the Dale" by the same guy who wrote Good King Wenceslas. A great song about the 3 wise men. Good version by William Pint and Felicia Dale on their Drive the Cold Winter Away CD.

"Tomorrow Will Be My Dancing Day". Not a hard-hitting song, but not your usual complacent Christian metaphor either. Usually turns people's heads a bit, and its a lovely song besides, don't you know. Love the line - "In a manger wrapped and laid was I..Between an ox and a silly old ass". I haven't wondered who that was:)

"There was a Pig Went Out to Dig." The kids like it.

I used to cry every time I sang "The Christmas Dinner" by Peter, Paul and Mary. Haven't sung it for years and can't remember it all anymore.

"Down in Yon Forest" has some pretty powerful images.

Oh, and how can I forget my favorite Christmas song. "The Christmas Hare" about hunting by public bus in the midlands of England. A great tune and song. Can't remember where I picked it up anymore. It's a wild ride, the rabbit dies. YOu can always follow it up with The Creggan White Hare if people get too maudlin over the bunny.

Ian, let me know if you want help with any of these.

Frankie Armstrong's version of "Anti-Carol" always curled my toes, too.

Marc Bridgham


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,adam.adler@utoronto.ca
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 12:57 AM

Try Homeless Wassail by Finest Kind -- traditional folk group out of Ottawa. Quite poignant lyrics, goes over well with audiences. About the holidays from the perspective of the homeless.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 12:08 AM

G'day IanB,

I was working down, tinking of suggesting Ewam McColl's Moving On Song ... but I see the Keith suggested it. It is subtle ... but has a hard hit for those who think ...

On another point, John McCutcheon's Christmas in the Trenches and the events of 25 December 1914 came to my mind the other day when, in a totally different line of research, I came upon the note that "The Germans first threw grenades in to English trenches on 27 December 1914".

There is no mention of dates for English grenade use, but they had seen trench warfare in the Russo-Japanese war of a few tears before and went into WWI with one crude grenade ... a dodgy glass jar of high explosive on the end of a stick and fitted with a contact fuse. Many struck the trench wall and killed the thrower. It all brings you back to earth even more abruptly that John McCutcheon's last verse.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 29 Jul 01 - 10:27 PM

I always thought Merle Haggard's "If We Make It Through December was a hard-hitting Christmas song and, judging from the search hits I got, I think people all over the world must agree.

For a hard-hitting Christmas Song that's really old, you can't beat "The Cherry Tree Carol".

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,paulobrien3@ireland.com
Date: 29 Jul 01 - 08:47 PM

burl mentioned Enoch Kent's version of Xmas song.Living in London then it really rang true,as it does today.Recorded on an "Exiles" L.P, the other performers were Gordon McCulloch and the late Bobby Campbell.I think it was on "The Freedom Come all Ye" record.Well worth getting.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE LITTLE BOY THAT SANTA CLAUS FORGOT
From: GUEST,geniesings@hotmail.com
Date: 29 Jul 01 - 03:10 PM

IanB, do you know this one?

THE LITTLE BOY THAT SANTA CLAUS FORGOT
Tommie Connor, Jimmy Leach and Michael Carr

Christmas comes but once a year for ev'ry girl and boy,
The laughter and the joy they find in each toy.
I'll tell you of a little boy who lives across the way;
This little feller's Christmas is just another day.

He's the little boy that Santa Claus forgot,
And goodness knows he didn't want a lot.
He sent a note to Santa for some soldiers and a drum;
It broke his little heart when he found Santa hadn't come.

In the street, he envies all those lucky boys,
Then wanders home to last year's broken toys.
I'm so sorry for that laddie;
He hasn't got a daddy,
The little boy that Santa Claus forgot.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,geniesings@hotmail.com
Date: 29 Jul 01 - 06:40 AM

Jeeneia mentioned this verse of WHAT CHILD IS THIS?

Why lies He in such mean estate Where ox and lamb [ass] are feeding? Good Christian, fear, for sinners here The silent word is pleading. Nails, spear shall pierce Him through, The cross be borne for me, for you. Hail! Hail the Word made flesh, The Babe, the son of Mary


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,jeanenepratt@onebox.com
Date: 29 Jul 01 - 06:27 AM

Sorry. I left my hotmail box unattended too long and it went extinct. You can reach me at onebox.com.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Robin2
Date: 29 Jul 01 - 01:19 AM

Joe,

Any idea where I could find a recorded copy of "Merry Christmas from the family"? The first time I heard that song, we were driving through Philly at midnight on December, and I laughed so hard I cried.

Robin


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Jul 01 - 12:01 AM

Willa, that is a very touchng song. Thanks for posting it.

kat


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 11:51 PM

There's a third verse to What Child is This? with the words "Nails,spears, shall pierce him through, the cross be borne for me, for you..." It's got power, see if you can locate the rest of it.


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Subject: ADD: Sleigh Ride parody
From: bobbi
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 10:23 PM

Okay.. I cave in at last... This IS hard hitting.. to say the least. It is raw edged..without a doubt.. and it reminds me of what Xmas was all about when I was married (another holiday.. another "leg" night)..

Author Unknown:
Sung to the tune of Sleigh Ride
~ ~ ~

I feel my pecker tinglin', balls are jinglin' too,
Come on and tell me whether I can link 'em together with you.

I need a hot slit mommy, to slip my salami into.
I must be over eager 'cause even your beaver will do!

Get it up, get it up, get it up, let's go..
Your butt is too slow..
Start hoppin' like a rabbit in the snow...
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, my Dear,
hot jiz in your ear.
I know it's not easy for you hangin' from that chandlier.

I need a new position for sperm worm fishin' with you..
I want to jam my putts in with both of my nutts in your shoe..

I feel my pecker tinglin' balls are jinglin' too,
C'mon and be so pleasant while I pump my present in you!

b


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Subject: Lyr Add: MAKE MY PRESENT SMALL (Bob Coltman)
From: GUEST,guest--Pat Nowell
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 09:13 PM

Bob Coltman recorded a thought provoking song in 1985 on the BMI label, called

MAKE MY PRESENT SMALL

Santa Claus I'm writing to you with extra special care.  
This request's important; please grant it this year.
I'm asking for just one thing, and it is for us all.
Not asking much for me alone, so make my present small.

REFRAIN:
Make my present small, just peace on earth for all,
Real peace on earth, good will to men,
And make my present small.

I know I've asked you other years
for trains and other toys.
But Santa, this year simply bring
joy to all girls and boys.
To hungry ones please bring them food
to chilly ones bring fire,
And Santa, bring them, if you can,
peace for their hearts' desire.
REPEAT REFRAIN
I know this letter's getting long,
and there's so little time,
But Santa, bring an end to all the hurtfulness and crime.
To every face please bring a smile,
to every heart a kiss.
I'd forfeit all my Christmas gifts
if you would just do this.
REPEAT REFRAIN



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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 06:30 PM

I believe Condolezza Schwartz recorded a tune called "Fuck You -- It's Christmas" for Backbite Records, but the management decided not to include it in her actual CD.

Guess it would be pretty valuable if you caould get ahold of the master, therefore!

A


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: jacko@nz
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 06:10 PM

There's a charming ditty by Eric Bogle 'Santa Bloody Claus'

Jack


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 02:36 PM

Enoch Kent wrote a marvellous Christmas satire to the tune of 'Mary's Boy Child'. It's on 'Revival In Britain' Folkways FW8728. "Christmas comes but once a year, So the holy bible say. And man must stash his cash all year, because of Christmas Day. All the stores were gaily garnished, tinsel and imitation snow. And we look forward to Christmas day and we hope we have the dough."


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Subject: Lyr Add: SUDDENLY IT'S CHRISTMAS (L Wainwright)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 01:55 PM

Maybe I missed it but no one has mentioned Tom Lehrer's soulful Christmas song: Christmas time is here, by golly...

Then there's Loudon Wainwright's lovely song:

SUDDENLY IT'S CHRISTMAS
(Words & Music by Loudon Wainwright III
© 1993 Snowden Music Inc.
Slightly adapted by Charlie Ipcar - 1993)

  G               D            G      D  G C
Suddenly it's Christmas, just after Halloween;
G D C D
Forget about Thanksgiving, that buffet in between;
G D G D G C
There's lights and tinsel in the shops, they're stocking up the shelves;
G D C D G
Santa's slaving at the Pole with his sweatshop full of elves.
There's got to be a build up for the day that Christ was born;
The malls are decked with pumpkins and ears of Injun corn;
Dragging through the falling leaves in a one-horse open sleigh;
Suddenly it's Christmas, seven weeks before the day.
          C               G            D       G D G
CHORUS: Suddenly it's Christmas, the longest holiday
C G C G D
When they say "Seasons Greetings!", they mean just what they say;
G D G D G C
It's a season, it's a marathon – retail eternity,
G D C G
And it's not over 'til it's over and you throw away the tree.
Outside it's nice and balmy, in the air nary a nip;
Suddenly it's Christmas, Santa's on his trip;
Yes, they're working overtime, Santa's little runts;
Christmas comes but once a year – and hangs on for two months.

Christmas carols in December, and November too;
It's no wonder we're depressed when the whole damn thing is through;
Finally, it's January, drag out Auld Lang Syne;
And here comes another heartache shaped like a valentine.

Chorus:

Suddenly it's Christmas, the longest holiday;
The season is upon us – it just won't go away;
It's a season, it's a marathon – retail eternity,
And it's not over 'til it's over and you throw away the tree;
No, it's not over 'til it's over and you throw away the tree;
It's still not over 'til it's over and you throw away the tree.

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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 01:08 PM

Take Uncle Dave's Table Grace by the Berrymans, switch it from Thanksgiving to Christmas and make people laugh and cry at the same time.


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Subject: Lyr Add: A CHRISTMAS CAROL (G. K. Chesterton)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 10:38 AM

Depends what you mean by contemporary. Here is something Chesterton dashed off when he read a piece in the paper "The chief constable has issued a statement declaring that carol singing in the streets by children is illegal and morally and physically injurious. He appeals to the public to discourage the practice." This would have been about 1925. Not much changes does it?

God rest you merry gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay;
The Herald Angels cannot sing,
The cops arrest them on the wing,
And warn them of the docketing
Of anything they say.

God rest you merry gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay;
On your reposeful cities lie
Deep silence, broken only by
The motor horn's melodious cry
The hooters happy bray.

So when the song of children ceased
And Herod was obeyed,
In his high hall Corinthian
With purple and with peacock fan,
Rested that merry gentleman;
And nothing him dismayed.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Cappuccino
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 09:57 AM

Oh blast - Jeanene, my e-mails to you keep coming back undelivered. Yes please to the alternative carols.

- Ian


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Cappuccino
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 09:54 AM

Blimey, we're going get an album out of this. Willa, that's a lovely final couplet in that song of yours, and thanks Nutty, I'm still laughing at the line in the Tawney song where he tries to ram the carol singer's lantern down his throat...

Still researching the rest, and thanks again.

- Ian


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 09:49 AM

Ewan MacColl again.Look at The Moving On Song.


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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs?
From: nutty
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 07:39 AM

In a lighter vein there's ....THERE ARE NO LIGHTS ON OUR CHRISTMAS TREE .......a Cyril Tawney classic and it's in the DT


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Subject: Lyr Add: SHOEBOX CINDERELLA (Willa)
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 06:32 AM

This is a song I wrote in '99


The Yorkshire Post's Christmas Appeal is for shoeboxes filled with small gifts, for children in Romania. Some of the children are living in rubbish dumps, some need hospice care, but can only be admitted when they are considered to have less than 5 months to live.

SHOEBOX CINDERELLA

Shoebox Cinderella, said the headline, and it brought an image straight into my mind
Of lonely Cinderella in the ashes, with her ugly sisters, jealous and unkind.
But this Cinderella's in a war-torn country, in a hospice, living out her little time.
No glass slippers for her feet, just a shoebox full of treats,
Grim reality's no happy pantomime.

There's a child among the ashes; can you bring a little smile
To her life of desperation – lift her spirits for a while?
As the clock ticks on to midnight there will be no magic spell,
And there'll be no happy ending, just the tolling of a bell.

CHORUS

She's a shoebox Cinderella, but this is no pantomime.
And there'll be no transformation, for she's running out of time.

In her rags amidst the squalor, cold and hungry, she's alone.
Will you lift the deadly pallor, do you have a heart of stone?
Fill that box with things to cherish, though so little, though so late,
In a life that is so hellish, how can you ignore her fate.

CHORUS

Though a shoebox full of treasures, just to show that someone cares,
Seems so pointless, seems so futile, in a life of such despair.
What can I do?, is it worth it?, will it help?, can I be sure?
Do the little that you can do; yes, then do a little more.

CHORUS


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